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           weatheredstoner
             from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-01-05 00:12 [#01445800]
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 Why is it that when we dream, we can see with such  amazingly vivid detail, when we are awake, our memories  aren't as keen?
 
  Like in dreams, (sometimes) you are able to process  everything in your surroundings, like if you are standing in  a forest, every tree is clear, you can go up to each branch  and count the leaves and still be able to notice the anthill  below you with every ant acounted for and scurrying about.  It becomes a temporary reality.
 
  But when we are awake, I cant even come close. Sure we can  imagine a forest with lots of leaves and a random anthill  somewhere in the picture, but its not a 'reality', its just  a temporary image that will change dramatically if you try  to picture it from another angle. 
 
  Its like comparing a 3d game to a blurry picture...
 
 
  
         
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           r40f
             from qrters tea party on 2005-01-05 00:32 [#01445808]
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that's a good question.  i wonder if anyone here finds an  answer.  i'd be interested to hear it. 
 
  
         
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           bogala
             from NYC (United States) on 2005-01-05 01:14 [#01445825]
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for me my dreams are always better than my real life. So, I  guess my mind is subconsciously trying to forget them so I  don't commit suicide.  
 
  
         
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           Q4Z2X
             on 2005-01-05 01:17 [#01445826]
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I'd guess its because during rem sleep the brain is able to  give its full effort to creating the dream's visuals and  atmosphere, etc., and also because when you are dreaming,  the things that are usually happening are seemingly pretty  random, and are inspired by subconcious thoughts which play  a huge role in what happens overall in the dream. When you  are trying to focus on a single point, image, or idea while  you are awake, you are basically forcing these thoughts, and  I don't think many people have the mental control to do  something like that. I mean, for example, it is difficult to  not think about something, after you've decided what  that something is. coversely, it's difficult to focus in on  one specific thing if you are trying. And in dreaming, the  focal points are often things that are familiar and easy to  visualise, or at least realistically replicate the  experience, if the whole brain is focused on that task. The  brain isn't doing all kinds of things like in real life. I  would think that, while dreaming, brain activity is less  complex than when awake, because the brain is drawing from  itself to create perceptions, and all of its areas that deal  with taking in stimuli, or any physical interaction are shut  down. But then again, the brain is also creating it's  perceptions as the same time as you experience them, so I'd  think that it is using certain areas that it doesn't usually  use while you are awake. Another thing to take into account  is that when dreaming, all that's taking place can seem very  rich and realistic, it doesn't usually register in the brain  the same way as actual physical events or waking thoughts  do. I don't think dreams are recorded in long term memory  the way real things are. So when you wake up, you've got a  slight mental picture of the dream and know what took place  for the most part, but if it were to be stored in your long  term memory, it would probably seem crude and 'patchy'  compared to actual reality. 
 
  
         
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           Q4Z2X
             on 2005-01-05 01:18 [#01445827]
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I've said too much. And I know that people who can lucid  dream probably cancel out a lot of what I said, (like dreams  being less  memorable or interactive, or that they are  virtually never 'educational', as in you can draw in new  knowledge or ideas in much the same way as reality..)
  I think in the movie 'waking life' the guy explains about  the certain areas of the brain are active/inactive during  sleep and awakeness. you've all probably seen it. 
 
  
         
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           pachi
             from yo momma (United States) on 2005-01-05 01:21 [#01445829]
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After waking up from a bad dream I think, "damn, glad that  wasn't real." 
 
  
         
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           Q4Z2X
             on 2005-01-05 01:26 [#01445830]
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Do you ever get that brief moment right after waking up  where you aren't completely sure if what you just dreamt was  a recent memory or fake? 
 
  
         
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           oxygenfad
             from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2005-01-05 02:23 [#01445842]
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Dreams are extremely sacred to me. I take them very  seriously sometimes.
  I've changed things I've done in life because they were  similiar to things I've seen/heard in dreams.
 
  You should pick up a dream dictionary, those things are  great! 
 
  
         
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           Q4Z2X
             on 2005-01-05 02:38 [#01445848]
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I hate the idea of those things. If dreams are so personal  and expressive of the subconcious, then their interpretation  should be subjective. What a dream symbolises really  completely depends on the person's life situation and  personality. I think a 'dream dictionary' should do little  more than provide a basic starting point as to what a dream  could mean. 
 
  
         
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           OK
             on 2005-01-05 02:51 [#01445856]
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you can actually excersize how u remember dreams. just by  tryin to remember every detail u can when u just wake up 
 
  
         
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           hedphukkerr
             from mathbotton (United States) on 2005-01-05 03:14 [#01445865]
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i cant be bothered to read all that shit, but its prolly  because in our dreams, our mind creates the anthill. in  reality, its there but youre not necesserilly aware of it  mentally.  
 
  
         
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           Dannn_
             from United Kingdom on 2005-01-05 04:26 [#01445921]
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I got a notepad, put it by my bed and put a sign on the  ceiling to remind me to write down anything i could remember  straight away when I woke up. I wrote every dream and the  date. It was very interesting, especially in conjunction  with my diary. I haven't done it lately but I will start  again.
 
  I think that dreams are remembered differently to how they  actually occur. I think its only when you wake up that you  form a train of thoughts into a chronological memory,  because this is the only way your mind expects things to be  remembered. So you thought about the trees with all the  leaves, and then you thought about the anthill with all the  ants, and when you wake up and think 'what happened in that  dream?' you remember looking at the trees and then looking  at the ants and you fill in the blanks where you would  expect other things to have happened which help the story  move through time in a normal way. Think about any time  you've tried to recite a dream, and how you tell it with  bits like 'then I walked over to the trees' which you  probably just made up because it feels like what must have  happened. 
 
  
         
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           weatheredstoner
             from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-01-05 08:47 [#01446077]
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yes theres always those huge gaps in dreams after you wake  up, you know something had to happen between point A + B,  and perhaps it did, but you lose it quickly after the dream  is over.
 
  I'm not sure what else to discuss as I was prematurely woken  up to go to my shit job and I cant think very well. 
 
  
         
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