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this has probably been posted up before, but figured it's still makes for good reading for those who might've missed it. |
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thanks man,i didn't stumble up upon this one! it's very nice written |
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my pleasure! fav. part for me is when he says And I made these sound bridge morphing modules and stuff in it,” he says. “It’s interesting, because you’re doing things to sound that just aren’t physically possible.” talk about pushing the envelope :) |
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hmm, don't make fun of Mr. Richard Devine! :P |
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sorry, I meant ; Sir Richard Devine! |
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he's the man...Ae and him are sonic masters |
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i just ordered the demo cd of kyma |
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I find that silly, the phrase itself doesn't mean a thing to me. |
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it's simple...please do try to make a sound like he has using classic means of production,like an guitar or an piano. |
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oh shut up! :) |
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it's in reference to something he say's before that, on page 3 (at the bottom). i didnt want to flat out say it because then it would make reading the interview somewhat redundant. :) |
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"At the same time, Devine discovered the music of Morton Subotnick and Karlheinz Stockhausen. “This was the main turning point in my musical explorations,” he says. “Morton Subotnick was the first composer to influence me to use analog modular synthesizers. Particularly, his main works such as ‘Sidewinder, The Wild Bull and Silver Apples of the Moon,’ where he used Donald Buchla’s modular electronic music systems at San Francisco Tape Music Center. “I saw Subotnick’s work as completely dynamic, and futuristic,” he adds. “He was creating sonic timbre environments that were completely interchangeable and complex. After hearing his work I began buying rare analog modular synthesizers and cataloging sounds." Sometimes i think artists create their first influences later in life to look better. Refering to Morton Subotnick and Karlheinz Stockhausen sounds way better then saying something like "i saw the video for Autechres "second bad vibel" on tv and i was like fuck yeah!! and then i downloaded fruity loops" All artist always have these great early music experiences and most of them are probably telling the truth but some must be talking shite. You never hear a indie rockstar talk about Iron Maiden or Vanilla Ice , it is always " yeah my dad introduced me to Frank Zappa and the Beatles early on " " my first record i bought was Sgt Pepper " " i used to secretly listen to my brothers Smiths records when he was not around" Bullshit! |
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I listen to his pieces and think, there's that smart Richard Devine making special effects with his technology. Gosh he must be clever. And that isn't particularly the mental effect I want to achieve by listening to a piece of music. |
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Sometimes that is exactly the effect i want to achieve. Listening to people like Devine is like going to a circus . You sit there and get amazed by all the fucked up shit they do. The thing is , i feel i can make most of the effects these people do with my software but putting it all together to a 6:37 min track is way over my head. I just don't have the focus , patience and determination one would need for sequencing something like that. It is impresive , most impresive. |
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i've been dieing to get my hands on his earlier works (lipswitch) but i've had horrible luck trying to get it from soulseek. |
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..says the man that tried to talk me into liking a specific The Books-track on account of its concept.. |
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Yes, there I go preferring substance over style again. |
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I really like Take Time a lot. |
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no, the substance is the music itself, not a nice concept behind it. |
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This is why they call me "the thinking man's qrter". |
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Hey. IMHO i think that Richard Devine is incredibly boring IMHO and all his music is very dry IMHO. |
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explain dry? |
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i dunno,he's very good for me...i knew to have headaches when listening to his music on headphones. probably because i was trying to analyze each and every sound as much as possible. |
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I dunno, it's kind of hard to describe. It kind of feels like he's going through a Big Checklist entitled "Things that sound kind of funny on top of this rhythm track" every time i hear one of his musics. Like somebody sucked what little soul was left in Intelligen Dance Musics into a big boring bag of effects and preserved it in a solution of 100% BoringWater. I don't like him much. |
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I would've never guessed. |
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What's wrong with you mang? It's like you stopped drinking beer and started drinking Snippy™, the Uptight Cola™ |
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I just said "I would've never guessed" - this might be the height of scathing sarcasm to you, to me it was just a throw-away comment! |
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childrenTalking it's funny to hear that you don't have Lipswith...use slsk! it's his best release |
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Patelle is actually a pretty good track. I had very high hopes for Devine when I heard it first. Unfortunately he never evolved much beyond it except to shovel more funny sounds on top. Oh yeah, IMHO™ since some people have trouble distinguishing messageboard posts from Proclamations of Natural Law. |
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i like this thread, richard d rules and you love it ! asect:dsect is mad 11111111111! |
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I'm sure John Maeda and his like are more of an influence on RD than other musicians... (and yeah, Patelle is a killer track - prob my fave of his - but then again his music doesn't easily fit into the idea of "tracks" as such...).. Check out some Live or DJing RD if you find his recorded outings a bit cold.. |
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i fukin love maeda!! yes, devine like him too, seeing lipswitch ep ;) i really like this ep but was disapointed by the rest of his works. autechre are much better (so are parmegiani, farmersmanual). like aphex said, "its very simple to do complicated music, everyone can do that, but its really hard to do a beautiful trx" or something. i like some of devine's music but often its just pile of breaks, sounds, that goes nowhere... |
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like aphex said, "its very simple to do complicated music, everyone can do that, but its really hard to do a beautiful trx" or something. Yes. And I hear far too much electronic music that reflects someone's grim determination to do something complicated and impressive - it's like you can hear their pleasure and inspiration evaporating in the first ten seconds as the music turns into a death-march to the toilet to excrete the finished product. I don't think I have to name any names. |
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I agree with you there. If I ever make a good track and get signed or something. No fucking chance of that happening!!! Anyway, I will answer the influences part honestly. Jive Bunny and Black Lace were my first records bought. My Mum played me Led Zep etc at a young age but i didn't take note for years. |
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led zep trax are both complicated AND awesome!! despite what i wrote, i reckon lots of trx of richard devine are really good but i like his simple ones more than the "complicated" ones. |
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i was surprised to find myself remembering this from the aphex twin diary thread: dear diary, had fun today: pulled off some amazing feats of hacking- legally changed all the government records to say "grant cabbage wilson". then broke into nasa encrypted data and deleted large chunks of it- can't wait to see what happens. then commited probably the greatest act of hacking/fraud in existence: i made people think that richard devine is any good. haha stray-bed swings |
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My personal pet theory is that sandwiches are a form of food, or sustenance as it were. |
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I like richard devine... he is pretentious, but the quality of his output almost justify his pretentions. It would be different if he was making crap, but he is not. Its just great industrial glitch, with a lot of energy, and it sounds amazing loud. Plus he is a really nice guy in person, and when you go up to him and tell him how much you like his music, he is sincerly happy and thankfull for your compliments. He really enjoys the music he makes, and you can tell. |
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could you explain how he is "pretentious"? its just, this term gets thrown around a lot, and I wonder how exactly do people mean this word, and how theyve come to this conclusion. |
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must be lots of decision makers @ apple quite heavily into idm for them to feature artists like this. either that, or given they're quite a technical company, the engineers are quite influencial on the decision makers. it's cool elite in any case. i seem to always find my interests dwindle into each other at some point. |
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i remember hearing on the board that someone had gone into an apple store and heard some idm and i think someone else did the same. many corporate stores are given cds to play at their stores, so there could be some people at apple who are into that thing. also, since a great deal of electronic music is laptop/computer based now, some artists may have deals with apple or other computer companies. something along the lines of how rock stars are sponsored by equipment companies. also i remember reading devine had done some work on soundtracks in the past. as for his music, it's ok. some of seems too forced on the technical half, but sometimes it works out for the good. |
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I don't really feel like explaining that much right now... its just pretty obvious he is influenced more by punk and metal than classical, but that is the style that he seems to like to drop in interviews. Prolly more to emphasize the compositional complexities of his music, and he really isn't that far off in that reguard, but its still pretention. The root word of pretention is pretend. And please don't get mad at me for saying that. I am a huge fan of richard devine. As far as I know, I was the only person who bought a cd-r copy of asect dsect at the show that I was at that night, a couple days before the studio release was out - from richard devine - just so that I could get it autographed. I am just trying to be honest. |
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Devine is everything I hate about what has happened to "idm". High pitched brittle music with crap, crap melodies. If any. |
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his music cant fit to everyone, everytime either ; but i dont think his best bits have anything to do with "melodies", he seems to focus on "sounds" instead. |
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Its not idm. Its microsound. Aphex twin is everything I hate about IDM, cause all the artists I really hate seem to be inspired by him. |
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Aphex is everything I love about idm. And I wish artists were inspired by him, cause I have yet to hear anyone sound remotely like him. I'll agree to disagree. I like microsound. I like grainular synthesis, but Devine is shit. To me. I'd rather listen to a Curtis Roads sample CD. |
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a cd with curtis road music? where can i find it? (only found 1 mp3 live from farmersmanual RLA site) |
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do you like Ae? |
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