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is it good to use midi or no?
 

hevquip from a crabs carriage on 2001-05-14 20:22 [#00006367]



i've heard good and bad about midi and can't exactly make up
my mind if i'll use it. maybe one controller would be good
for various things and what not. it sounds complicated
though with all the numbers and parameters and directory
crap.

please tell me what you think about midi.


 

Chris Ochre from rhymes with bum (www.mp3.com/ochre) on 2001-05-14 22:59 [#00006374]



Hi Hevquip,

Saying 'MIDI' is crap is basically shooting yourself in the
foot. I can't understand why anyone says such things.
MIDI is only the communication protocol used by synths to
communicate with one another, and was one of the greatest
and most useful things ever to happen to music. It allows
for greater flexibility etc.
I don't even know why I'm arguing the point. Saying MIDI is
crap is one of the most downright dumbest fucking things
I've ever heard anyone say in my sorry-assed life!

So my answer would be:

Yes, it is good to use MIDI (lol).

Just make sure that you don't get confused between MIDI
signals and actual audio signals, they're completely
different.

By the way, an Ochre track currently features as 'Song of
the Week' @ www.electronicbboard.com
Check it out for some nice glitchy click-beats.

Chris.


 

Gerry Atrick from london france underpants on 2001-05-14 23:15 [#00006375]



I agree with Chris. Midi is very useful. One can easily
use a sampler, drum machine, synth and computer as a perfect
example of a symbiotic relationship. The only problem with
midi is that it can get pricey. Take the cost of each
machine you want to use, then add in cost for midi wires and
probably a mixer board. Thats alot of money there.


 

hevquip from a crabs carriage on 2001-05-14 23:40 [#00006377]



hmmm...that's odd, i dont remember myself saying midi was
crap, and if it was crap to me, why would i bother to ask
for others opinions when i wouldn't care?



 

The Pistons Driving it on 2001-05-14 23:55 [#00006378]



Yeah he only asked the question guys (i assume).
But i myself have actually just purchased Cubase vst 5.0 and
this
Powerful PC and i really don't know what to do next being
such a newcomer does anybody have any advice?
Are there any programs that are
1. Easy to use
2. Packed with banks of sounds to use and edit as you wish.
3.Great sounding.

Obviously I know thats just a small part of the process but
I think that it would help if I could have some
suggestions.

P.s I work In a Virgin Megastore and they played
Windowlicker to the wonderful public today (its being
released on a compilation).
Interesting to hear it next to Oxide and Neutrino's tune.


 

The Pistons Driving it on 2001-05-14 23:59 [#00006379]



Yeah he only asked the question guys (i assume).
But i myself have actually just purchased Cubase vst 5.0 and
this
Powerful PC and i really don't know what to do next being
such a newcomer does anybody have any advice?
Are there any programs that are
1. Easy to use
2. Packed with banks of sounds to use and edit as you wish.
3.Great sounding.

Obviously I know thats just a small part of the process but
I think that it would help if I could have some
suggestions.

P.s I work In a Virgin Megastore and they played
Windowlicker to the wonderful public today (its being
released on a compilation).
Interesting to hear it next to Oxide and Neutrino's tune.


 

Chris Ochre from rhymes with bum (www.mp3.com/ochre) on 2001-05-15 00:22 [#00006380]



Hevquip,

Sorry, I should have made it a little clearer. My post was
in no way directed towards you or anyone else on the board.
I just hear so many ignorant comments made about MIDI (and
your not one of them - just to make it clear), that's all.
Did my post seem targeted at you? Sorry, I got carried away!
I thought I should've made it a little clearer just as I
pressed 'post'.

Oops,

Chris.


 

Chris Ochre from rhymes with bum (www.mp3.com/ochre) on 2001-05-15 00:33 [#00006382]



Speaking of Wondowlicker, I heard it on the telly this
evening being used to advertise Emerdale (I think - either
that or Coronation Street). I was a bit surprised.

Hey The Pistons..., try checking out IK Multimedia's
Sampletank - it's a VST instrument that comes packed with
sounds, plus the ability to add more. Should be cheap,
dunno what it sounds like though. Check out KVR VST
resources for more info on other VSTis (www.kvr-vst.com).

Hevquip, check out the SOS forum for any MIDI info (or any
other computer/recording music related stuff) and decent
articles - www.sound-on-sound.co.uk
Places like www.intermusic.com and www.sonicspot.com are
good for music info too. Try Shareware Music Machine
(http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/) for cool shareware programs
too.

Hope this helps to clear up the little misunderstanding, :)

Chris.


 

rob fragilenine from Australia on 2001-05-15 01:12 [#00006386]



for midi soundcards, get the soundblaster live! because it
has the ability to use soundfonts, plus it already has
plenty of good sounds...i've produced heepz of tunes using
just cakewalk pro audio 6.0 and they sound quite
professional without fancy effects and real recorded
parts...


 

offline MrTenzin from The Concrete Jungle (United States) on 2002-04-20 23:48 [#00186361]
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midi ownz


 

offline diemax from somewhere in tennessee :( (United States) on 2002-04-21 00:21 [#00186397]
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midi is good- but it's also fun to unplug it in the middle
of a live set and let all your device clocks go back to
their original settings... but that's just me


 

offline diemax from somewhere in tennessee :( (United States) on 2002-04-21 00:25 [#00186400]
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it's also worth praise to do a live p.a. without midi...
sorta gives you more flexibility, but there's the ever
present likelihood of a train wreck... especially if you
a: have more than one rythm device
b: use tap tempo
c: if you have no idea how to use your mixer (happens to me
quite a bit)


 

offline Paco from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2002-04-21 01:39 [#00186441]
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The "MIDI is crap" is mainly an Internet misunderstanding.
To average Joe, MIDI is some thin sounding soundfile. He has
no idea that MIDI really is a remote control protocol for
MIDI equipment, such as synthesizers. MIDI only sends out
note data and other info, such as continuous controller
data. The sound comes from the equipment receiving this
information. It can be a crappy, thin-sounding Soundblaster
card or a fat K2000 synth.

MIDI is great. Well, that's like saying telephones are
great.

-P


 

offline diemax from somewhere in tennessee :( (United States) on 2002-04-21 02:15 [#00186467]
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no, it's like saying the english language is great


 

offline map from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-04-21 02:54 [#00186536]
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if you use samplers, drummachines, synths and remotable
synth software, you will need MIDI. MIDI is one of the
nicest languages i've ever used...


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-21 03:06 [#00186570]
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MIDI has been kinda important..


 

offline dosle from kenosha (United States) on 2002-04-21 04:47 [#00186637]
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hevquip!
midi is fun to just go wild on, imagine controlling as many
aspects as you have knobs for. sure beats have one mouse
cursor


 


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