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"Basinski played this track as a loop and then recorded the sounds created as the original tape disintegrated into nothing." "it's impossible: no one could create a script this contrived. Yet, apparently, it happened. William Basinski's four-disk epic, The Disintegration Loops, was created out of tape loops Basinski made back in the early 1980s. These loops held some personal significance to Basinski, a significance he only touches on in the liner notes and we can only guess at. Originally, he just wanted to transfer the loops from analog reel-to-reel tape to digital hard disk. However, once he started the transfer, he discovered something: the tapes were old and they were disintegrating as they played and as he recorded. As he notes in the liner notes, "The music was dying." But he kept recording, documenting the death of these loops. "These recordings were made in August and September of 2001. Now, this is where the story gets impossible. William Basinski lives in Brooklyn, less than a nautical mile from the World Trade Centers. On September 11, 2001, as he was completing The Disintegration Loops, he watched these towers disintegrate. He and his friends went on the roof of his building and played the Loops over and over, all day long, watching the slow death of one New York and the slow rise of another, all the while listening to the death of one music and the creation of another. As I said, it's impossible. The music, however, is beautiful, subtle, sad, frightening, confusing, and ultimately uplifting. What's he created here is a living document: a field recording of orchestrated decay. It sounds like nothing else I've heard, yet, at its core, it's the simplest and most familiar music I can imagine." |
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downloading. |
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It's good ... but you really have to be in the right frame of mind to listen to it. |
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that mp3 sounds awesome!! i've already placed an order for all 4 albums :) thank you for this!! |
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This got an amazing review on pitchfork i recall. Sounds extremely pretentious but I bet its very good |
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hello you |
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that 10 minute mp3 sounds fantastic!! omg, i can't wait to get this.. |
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so far nothing of this kind of music came close to philip jeck..this may well be even better though :) |
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Lol you are a model for the 'mp3s dont damage the music industry' crowd |
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:-) |
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That mp3 is Very Lovely, yes. |
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i enjoyed reading about how the release was made! thanks fleetmouse |
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I don't know.. this kind of stuff seems really boring to me. it's the same with "venice" - I just don't hear it. it goes on and on and on and on and on. on the other hand I do like the Hafler Trio - but there is much more change in there, and a strange form of agression. this just sounds bland. |
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venice sounds ok,altho i also can't stand this kind of music sometimes. but hafler trio...blaeh |
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You think the hafler trio actually varies their sound that much? All the releases I heard were one sound for 20 minutes, with a change of 5degrees in the filter resonance throught the entire thing |
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well, seeing as I have a lot of their/his work, yes, I think I am in the position to say it changes a lot. |
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Really... cause I have a fair amount of their/his work, and never listen to it cause nothing happens. |
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i find fennesz pretty boring...it isn't same kind of music really. this sounds much more like philip jeck and it's totally different stuff from what fennesz and tim hecker do... it's my favourite kind of music i think...so sublime but so much happening at the same time. awesomeness!! |
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i find fennesz pretty boring...it isn't same kind of music really. this sounds much more like philip jeck and it's totally different stuff from what fennesz and tim hecker do... it's my favourite kind of music i think...so sublime but so much happening at the same time. awesomeness!! |
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hahah |
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Well, I shouldn't say nothing happens... but its boring as hell. |
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not hardly as boring as that mp3 of this guy's music. |
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must be something wrong with your hearing! btw, im happy they 4 pieces are going to cost less that the two analord tracks :) |
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Yeah, but this seems to have soul. Plus it has a strong idea. Personally, I like the idea of music that is dissintigrating a lot more than doing field recordings of wind, and mixing it with some over-filtered crowdspeech. |
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now its all clear. |
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Hey! I like this AND the Hafler Trio. Now what. |
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the idea is nice, but if the resulting music still bores the tits off of me, I won't listen to it. |
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You can't like both. Its not feasible. You have to take sides in a stupid argument. |
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exactly. Fabien, you're no fun. |
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I also like Venice. God damn it. |
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aaah jeeesus...! |
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oh sounds gorgeous (yes venice is nice) damn queues! |
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i'd prefer to separate the concept from the music. the music should be able to stand on its own without having to rely on the context of 9/11 or knowing that the tracks represent the actual physical decay of the original tape loops. that said, there is something attractive in the idea that this process of decay was inevitable and uncontrollable and unreproduceable, and not programmed or the consequence of some filter or turning of a switch. the discs are what they are, overlapping loops of simple, melancholy melodies that gradually decay into distortion and eventually gaps of silence. if you like lofi melancholy drones and don't mind repetition and slowly evolving sound then you might take great pleasure in these recordings... |
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What, were you born with both genetalia as well? Cause you sound right confused... |
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hmm, im listening to that mp3 for like 10th time in a row...this is the kind of music that makes me depressed but kind of happy in at most weird way at the same time. totally fits all the crap that is going on atm.. |
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That song was beautiful |
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oh this shit is beautiful |
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Nice idea, boring music. |
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yeah it's a super cool idea, but i have yet to hear anything from the series that actually did it for me... if you want to hear William Basinski stuff that is more dynamic, check out the album he did with Richard Chartier for Spekk this year... that album is more like Hafler Trio stufff... but then... some Hafler Trio stuff really is like a single drone... other Hafler stuff is a very very far cry from that... |
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It looks very interesting. There's a DVD on that order page that looks amazing... the disintegration loops with home footage of Manhatten sunset of 9/11. Sounds beautiful. Whether I would have the interest to sit through the whole DVD is another thing |
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i haven't see that dvd :( where is it? |
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third one up ' Japanese-only DVD release. "On September 11th I was on my roof in Brooklyn, less than 1 nautical mile from the World Trade Center, our beacon, our compass: that which towered so far above every other skyscraper in NYC, my nightlight. My neighbors and I witnessed the end of the world as we knew it that day. We saw those towering structures collapse before our very eyes, on a crystal clear day we saw the incomprehensible change of landscape: like a volcano disappearing behind trees, we saw this magnificent minimalist human structure disappear before our very eyes. We were appalled. Despite the catastrophic fires, we had no idea that these gigantic structures would collapse... cascade below the lower Manhattan skyline. But it happened. We were in shock. We sat on the roof terrace in lawn chairs and watched the fires burning all day into night with the Disintegration Loops playing in the background. The human scale of the catastrophe we couldn't even comprehend at the time. That would come next, in tears and agony. This was the end of the world we all knew was coming sooner or later, but had forgotten about...put in the back of our minds. That evening I recorded on video the static image of the lower Manhattan skyline billowing smoke as the last hour of daylight turned to darkness. The film is entitled Disintegration Loop 1.1 and is dedicated to the memory of those who perished in the atrocities of September 11th, 2001." -- William Basinski. Video, 63m, NTSC Region 0. ' |
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it doesn't say any details about it though...it would be nice to know whether there's music to it or just the ambient sounds/them talking..ehh |
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People need something to crystallize their interest in ambience like seeding the clouds - maybe it's a breakup album for you, or you like the cover art, or a critic told you how to listen to it. Whatever. But there has to be an entry point that makes it more than amorphous meandering to you. Sometimes it's just good titles. For the Disentegration Loops it's the fact that it's got a heck of a back-story. Would it get any attention at all if it were presented without the story of how they played the tapes until they disintegrated, and how it's tied to the collapse of the towers? Maybe not. But it's an entry point and it works. (Fennesz on the other hand is far too musical to be considered in the same breath as this, or Tim Hecker, or just about anything else - his stuff is as much about harmony and melody as texture and sound design) |
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perhaps it is exactly like conceptual art, where the concept itself is the work of art, not so much what is produced - except for that the concept itself isn't interesting enough. I just don't hear it. to me it doesn't sound so much amorphous, just meandering. |
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I don't know, I find the music itself wuite haunting so it isn't just the concept. The concept was the guy standing outside the club drumming up business and the music is the pussy shaking it onstage. |
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Maybe I'd compare it more to abstract expressionism. |
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it's in my top three of releases that i've heard in 2004 without a doubt. just beautiful. |
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" Would it get any attention at all if it were presented without the story of how they played the tapes until they disintegrated, and how it's tied to the collapse of the towers? Maybe not." MAYBE YES!!! |
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