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offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-12-14 13:47 [#01425416]
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TORONTO (AP) -- The NHL was set to make a new proposal to
locked-out players on Tuesday that could hopelessly stall
labor negotiations if the offer included a salary cap.

The sides resumed talks at 1 p.m. EST with the league
reportedly poised to reject the latest offer by the union,
which featured a 24-percent salary rollback but no linkage
between revenues and player salaries, which the union deems
a salary cap and unacceptable.

The Canadian sports television network TSN reported Monday
that NHL executive vice president Bill Daly told the 30 team
owners the league will turn down the union's offer made last
week. TSN cited a memo from Daly to the owners.

``While the immediate 'rollback' of 24 percent offered by
the union would materially improve league economics for the
2004-05 season, there is virtually nothing in the union's
proposal that would prevent the dollars 'saved' from being
redirected right back into the player compensation system,
such that the league's overall financial losses would
approach current levels in only a matter of a couple of
years,'' Daly said in Sunday's memo.

The league wants cost certainty, a system that will provide
a direct link between revenues and player costs. The
players' association might quickly break off talks if the
NHL's proposal includes that.

If that happens, the NHL will be closer to becoming the
first North American sports league to lose an entire season
to a labor dispute. There might be a month left to salvage
to the season. The last NHL lockout ended with a deal on
Jan. 11, 1995, allowing for a 48-game season to be played.

But the sides might be too far apart to get a season in this
time. The memo obtained by TSN ``cynically'' questioned the
motives of the NHLPA's salary rollback offer.



 

offline brokephones from Londontario on 2004-12-14 13:47 [#01425417]
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*vomits from hockey overload*


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-12-14 13:47 [#01425418]
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``We believe the Union's offer was more about trying to
unify the players and ensure player solidarity with what
they would perceive as a very substantial proposal than it
was about making a good faith effort to reach agreement with
us,'' Daly reportedly wrote.

The players' proposal also contained a luxury tax, a revenue
sharing plan, a lower cap on entry-level contracts and
bonuses, and an offer to allow teams to take players to
arbitration.

The NHL hasn't given the players' association an offer since
July 21, when it presented six possible concepts to provide
a framework for the league's first new collective bargaining
agreement in a decade.

All six were formally rejected by the players on Aug. 17,
and negotiations that followed over the next month failed to
move the sides any closer to resolving the philosophical
difference of a salary cap.

Talks broke off Sept. 9 when owners turned down an offer,
and the lockout -- in its 90th day -- was imposed a week
later by commissioner Gary Bettman. Players and owners
stayed apart from early September until last Thursday.



 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-12-14 13:48 [#01425420]
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J,

I cant believe they are killing this for me. These guys are
sorely under paid.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-12-14 13:49 [#01425422]
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i heard that opheckses team is going to lose this year..


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-12-14 13:51 [#01425426]
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I was hoping for the Maple Leafs all the way.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-12-14 13:54 [#01425432]
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I've resigned myself to the fact (I think) that there will
be no NHL this year. I've been following the AHL and Sidney
Crosby's progress in the QMJHL to make up for it... it's not
the same, but I'm so pissed off at the NHLPA (and the
owners, to a lesser extent), that I'm pretty indifferent
now.

Kind of related, did you hear about EA buying out the NFL
license last night? Now Sega Sports won't be able to put out
their superior football games. Worst day in the history of
video gaming, some say. Really sad state of affairs.

Money money money money money money, everywhere, always.


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-12-14 13:57 [#01425439]
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No more 2k????? omg. YOU CANNOT B SERIOS!

Vomits.

How are my admirals doing? I havent seen one game or heard
about it.


 

offline bryce_berny from chronno (Canada) on 2004-12-14 14:07 [#01425458]
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video games are better than the nhl anyway


 

offline thecurbcreeper from United States on 2004-12-15 22:50 [#01427261]
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petition

i'm actually thinking of getting nhl2k5 this weekend.


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-12-16 09:06 [#01427552]
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bah, hockey sucks... the greedy players can kiss my hairy
ass!!


 

offline coyote from NY (Canada) on 2004-12-16 10:55 [#01427635]
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Hockey is great, it's the NHL that sucks


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-12-16 11:49 [#01427705]
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It's pointless, it won't make any money for the NFL. I think
everybody that's disgusted and realizes how bad this is has
to make a conscious decision to never buy an EA title
again... and if you HAVE to play Madden or the new Time
Splitters, pirate it.


 


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