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My girlfriend is a math minor, and she is doing a presentation on the Fibonacci sequence, so she asked me to compose a piece utilizing the fibonacci sequence in a composition. Briefly: the melodic lines are based on the sequence. 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, 233 starting on D, and assigning D as 1, D# as 2, E as 3, F as 4, F# is 5, G is 6, G# is 7, A is 8, A# is 9, B is 10, C is 11, C# is 12 etc etc etc the sequence is thus: D=1 D#=2 E=3 F#=5 A=8 D=13 A#=21 B=34 G#=55 F#=89 C#=144 F#=233 that bars are also in order of the sequence. One bar of 1/4, one bar of 2/4, one bar of 3/4, one bar of 5/4, one bar of 8/4 this phrase repeats itself as the basic structutre. the phrase places once, then changes, plays 2 times, changes, plays 3 times. Then the next section adds the strings. The 16th note divisions of the celesta occur on the 1st, 2ns, 3rd, 5th, 8th, 13, etc 16 notes of the bars, but the sequence starts over at the beggining of each bar. the marimba part plays on beats 1, 2, 3, 5, 8 (also starting over at the beggining of each bar) both the celsta and marimba then begins to be doubled starting on the next pitch of the sequence. so where it was 1, 2, 3, 5, 8 etc, its now playing 1+2, 2+3, 3+5, 5+8, 8+13 etc. the bongos follow the same pattern as the celesta line. but with added down beats on the back beats for pulse. the cello line also follows the note sequence, but the notes last for the duration of each bar, repeating at octaves. Each succeding bar adds more rythms with the next note from the sequence. the final section retrogrades (plays backwards) the celesta, marimba, and bongo parts. Its pretty academic (but hey, was writen for a math presentation!) Anyways, I think the results are suprisingly interesting, and even somewhat pleasent. I hope you enjoy... thoughts are welcom! href="http://www.kcinsu.com/audio/Sequence%20Music%20For%20 Sequence Music for Celesta, Marimba, Cello, a |
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bah too long of a post: |
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downloading now. ive always been interested in this kind of thing, and im eager to compare the description with the music. do you have a midi file of the sequences i could maybe check out? |
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Im going to be scoring it all... I post it as a PDF when Im done. (Ill probably add notes pointing out everything Ive done on the score) |
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scoring eh? pdf file eh? :( ...nevermind |
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cool, i like it. |
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Nigga me and wMw or his twin brother mWm was doin this shit mad years ago. |
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yes, but did yours have BONGOS?! rspct |
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thanks :D |
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yes, ours even included samples of Homer playing Mr Burns head as bongos as well. WE WERE/ARE SUPERIOR. |
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well then. I bow down in shame and self loathing. |
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This is really interesting stuff Zeus. Good job. I've been an admirer of Schoenberg for some time.. it sounds like your ideas are comparable.. are at least your working methods. The piece itself actually reminded me of some Steve Reich pieces I have on CD.. for whatever it's worth. Thanks for sharing this. |
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thanks man! I love steve reich! (and Schoenberg is cool too, but Im more down with the minimalism) |
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Mutual muso intellectual masturbation all round. |
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downloaded. |
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fibonacci : meh fibonacci in music : overrated pretentious mathematical bullshit |
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imo. |
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Meh is used to describe any and every word possible, including: Yes No maybe kind of never always ok alright no thankyou yes please look bitch i really dont care so just shut the fuck up if you want whatever If you wnat i dont want to really well shut up i dont really care no honestly, i dont care... |
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erererrrreerrrerr... ævtøkr. music and maths are not the same, mixing leads to crap. Music is emotion. |
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nah. emotion is the firm terrain of humans. although music is a product of humans, it in itself does not contain any emotion. |
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the is an example of math mixed well with music |
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sorry that's "shepard", and notable users of it are, autechre on their ep 'gantz graf', beck on his album 'sea change' and lusk on their album 'free mars' in the fantastic track 'undergarten song' |
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"emotions are nothing but lack of information" quote from some friend who quoted her university teacher. |
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thats awesome! hehe |
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qrter .... apparently your mom was music and your dad - math....cuz mixing led too CRAP i.e. you bastard |
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qrter ... SORRY .... that was for Drunken Mastah! bah .... |
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you interpret music as emotion. You do not interpret numbers as emotion. |
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math is not just numbers the fibonacci sequence is a very emotional sequence, its ties to nature are both interesting and enlightening |
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math is a theoretical subject about quantities. |
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"Mathematics is commonly defined as the study of patterns of structure, change, and space; more informally, one might say it is the study of "figures and numbers"." I could just as easily say that music is a theoretical subject about scales and frequency variations. Generalising like that doesn't get to the heart of what the concepts in a subject do to someone emotionally. Math is emotional. |
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this is cool :D you are smart |
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I don't know anything about scales or frequency variations, nor have I ever learned any musical theory, but still I make music. You can't do math without knowing how. Normally Zeus is one of the most talented musicians on the board, and I haven't heard a song by him I haven't liked before, but this was crap, and since Zeus normally makes amazing music, and this piece was based upon maths, I can conclude that using maths for music sucks, while Zeus still rocks. |
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If you choose to listen to the wave you must accept what the wave brings -Schoenberg- I will listen to this |
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I really liked this. It would be interesting to hear more of your darker ambient and beats based off sequences like this. |
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Member since 2004-08-01 10:38 and you just posted now? |
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he felt he had something important to add. He's also my lover. |
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let's not make this into an argument of whether music and math are related. Zeus obviously proved they are. and if you had any real music knowledge you'd know that composition does have math involved in it. but of course, math is not for everyone ... nor are emotions, buddy. people like that peice, i do too. and you are free to stick to your own opnion. just try giving feedback instead of 'crap'. PS: sure i'll be your lover... |
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I just wanted to argue, I didn't even listen to the song hehe |
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you can't conclude that based on one occurence. I can't believe I just typed that. |
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the track IS nice. and music IS math - just listen to the second track on geogaddi :))) |
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I like this. I prefer your more abstract work. There was this other piece you posted not too long ago that was pleasantly discordant. All angular and shit. Wish I could find it on my hard drive, but alas. |
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I've heard more tracks based on maths, calculations and two that were created by random filter manipulations that the computer calculated... they've all sucked. |
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