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Religion is the biggest threat to the advancement of human civilization. This century will be the one where logic and humanity are conflict religion. Many will die. |
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^in conflict with religion. Fuck |
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no, that would never ever happen. it's completely, utterly impossible. and even if were somehow possible, nothing would ever be resolved - violence begets more violence in a perpetual cycle. |
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recycle |
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many [are] d[ying] !! |
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you can reason away empathy |
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spank. bubble. cartoon. butler. racism. lizard. religion. |
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I'm not saying the dying SHOULD happen. I'm saying it will happen. And that it will be instigated by religious institutions. |
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errh.. religion is not a threat to the human civilization.. it is a PART of the human civilization.. religion doesn't inhibit progress, nor does it encourage it in any ways that differ from the other parts of our society. |
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I cant wait. Killing zealots will be good times. |
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Religion doesn't inhibit progress? Stem Cell Research Gay Marriage Aids Research |
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Religion is wrong. Spirituality is wrong. It's all bullshit. |
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you're mixing up science and society. |
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also, stem cell research is not only being prohibited by religion.. there are quite a few people who just believe that it is morally wrong to do it! |
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gay marriage is science? |
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no, but the two others are. majority rules. |
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So yeah |
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"Innocent Fun" |
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I would have to say instead of religion, it would be the family. The family structure ruins everything. Also, without it, there would be no religion. |
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i'm not sure that religious people have a monopoly on irrational beliefs... instead of criticizing some blanket generalization like "religion," why not dispense with your presumptions and assumptions and prejudices and consider one idea at a time? i'm sure you've noticed that some religious people are rational, and some are irrational. most are a mix of both, just like everybody else... |
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If I believe that being religious in general is irrational, then of course I will not see any religious person as being rational. |
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word |
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it seems you're missing the point... |
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Bombs are flying People are dying Children are crying Politicians are lying too. Cancer is killing Texaco's spilling The whole world's gone to hell But how are you? I'm super Thanks for asking All things considered I couldn't be better I must say I'm feeling super No, nothing bugs me Everything is super when you're Don't you think I look cute in this hat I'm so sorry Mr. Cripple But I just can't feel too bad for you right now. Because I'm feeling So insanely super That even the fact that you can't walk Can't bring me down Background singers: He's super Thanks for asking All things considered He couldn't be better he must say Big Gay Al: I'm super No, nothing bugs me Everything is super when you're Don't you think I look cute in this hat These little pants, this matching tie That I got at Vogue I'm super Background singers: In the barracks and the trenches as well Big Gay Al: Stick 'em up. Background singers: Big Gay Al says do ask do tell Big Gay Al: Skittles Background singers: Yes he's super and he's proud to convey Big Gay Al: OK Background singers: Everything is super when you're gay! When you're gay! |
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question: why do you think that believing in something is not rational? |
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Because the basis of the belief is irrational. |
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(bunk.) (but essential to being a human... i think.) |
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You mean it's not materialistic. The idea that there are things that exist beyone our ablity to measure is not irrational. |
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Oops - this already happened! It's now called The Enlightenment. Of course history has a way of repeating itself. |
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Im not talking about that at all. Regardless, religion lays everything out for you. It explains it all, lists the consequences of doing (x) and the rewards of doing (y). |
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And science does the opposite? I don't see how having answers is a problem... |
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agreed. saying something is crap because you can't see it, or because it has answers is the same as distrusting the back of your own head, and your own thoughts... |
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the failure of western religions post WW2 and the increasing uncertainty, unhappiness and lack of fulfillment in society in general is no co-incidence |
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Religion has no answers, no proof. And when asked for proof always falls back on "Faith, faith, faith!". And here's my biggest problem with religion, more specifically Christianity. It motivates you to be good by promising rewards, instead of just being good for the sake of being good. It's fishbait, you're the fish. I don't need to be promised eternal paradise to be a good person. I don't need to be told I'm going to burn in hell not to be a bad person. I mean the reasoning is just shit. |
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You complatint about 'faith' or blind credulity isn't exclusive to religion. That's a disease shared by both religious and atheist people. You're complaint aginst Christainaity should be directed toward the churches and the clergy. Read the gospels for youself and then see if your argument hold up. |
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No it wont be directed to them, because I'm having a conversation about this here . And the answers religion do provide are rather nasty. Seeing as you have read the bible, or if anyone else has, please quote the part where it says what to do to a homosexual if he/she has had intercourse with the same sex. |
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errh... you DO know that science doensn't have proof either, right? you won't get definate proof from a scientist... science is about DISPROVING theories.. if you can't disprove something, it is more likely to be considered true, but scientists are wrong about just about anything, and will never be right... you can't calculate randomness. |
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the best feature of science is that it is operated with the understanding that there is no plateau to knowledge, every single idea is open to reevaluation and refinement. of course, ego, politics and rigid belief programming make this ideal impossible, but what a fantastic ideal... people who are of genuine faith, i believe, approach their spirituality in the same way. they are willing to recognize their faith as a model that must be constantly shaped and refined. they do not rigidly adhere to beliefs and dogma. imo, ultimately science and spirituality will merge into one discipline. both "science" and "religion" require more depth than we can manage on xltronic... |
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randomness doesn't actually exist though. it's just a lack of required information. |
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nice thought! i second that! |
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Eventually, religion will die, because if you're still religious in this day and age, you're pretty much a caveman. |
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Well then, ooga booga. |
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Yes, that's right. You're weak and believe in things for no reason. Way to go. |
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Hey now, let's keep this above the belt |
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I know I may have posted a picture of a man having sex with a purple penguin... but I do feel strongly about the topic. I've decided not to post my opinion since similar opinions have already been expressed by brokephones and mappatazee. |
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wtf!? I thought it was innocent fun! |
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I agree with plaidzebra. |
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It still is! |
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Agreed there |
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So you think religion is a dangerous threat? Does that include Buddhists who are a group of the most peaceful people in existence who believe that the most important thing is the happiness of others? I don't really agree that these people could possibly cause a threat to, well anyone really. I agree that religious people often have no justification at all for their beliefs and don't really have a clue what they are talking about because those people only rely on their unjustified "faith" and what they have been brought up to believe in. There are a lot of counter arguments to the existence of a greater being, but to be honest, all of them can be argued against and there is an equal number of arguments for this existence. There has never been one side of the argument proven. If anything had actually been proven infallably then there would be no disputes or arguments about the subject. As it is impossible so far to prove either way, it's important to keep an open mind and not get agressive or angry about it. It's obviously pointless as there is no infallable justification for either argument. |
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