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Outfoxed: Rupert Murdochs war on journalism
 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-07 17:46 [#01418586]
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I just saw this, and I must say: up until now, I thought
Fox networks actually had a few REPORTERS, but hell no!
they've only got a bunch of morons having a neverending
birthday-party, telling jokes about and discrediting people
they don't like.. also, they seem to be taken SERIOUSLY a
large amount of people over there!

I especially disliked that O'reilly asshole.. he has nothing
to do on television.. his ethics are non-existing at best,
and I have to wonder: has he EVER had a discussion
with someone, or does he only do moronic monologs? He was
like a spoiled 5-year old who held his ears when people he
disagreed with spoke, only he figured out that holding his
ears doesn't work in "grown-up world," so he tells people to
"shut up!"

Also; how can a NEWS networks officials say stuff like
"americans who don't support the war in iraq can SHUT UP!"

Americans are living in a third-world country, and someone
should DO something about it!


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-12-07 17:49 [#01418589]
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Yeah O'Reilly is a supreme bumhole. I liked when he was
interviewing the son of a guy who'd died on 9-11, but who
disagreed with Bush's policies, adn O'Reilly's best comeback
was "SHUUUUDUUUUPPP" pronounced just like that over and
over. He says it just like a drunken fuckup out in the
street at 4 a.m.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-07 17:56 [#01418597]
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yeah.. that interview with that guy.. that was an OUTRAGE!
It made me want to punch O'reilly, and I credit the guy he
interviewed for holding back! Especially when he used his
DEAD FATHER and his mother AGAINST him! I bet they'd both be
proud of their son for standing up to that asshole! I loved
it when he kept talking when O'reilly interrupted, and that
one time he made him wait his turn! That was the greatest
moment in the entire documentary!

How does O'reilly get away with it? Generally in television,
interrupting makes you look bad, and telling people to shut
up is NOT good debate-tech... Has anyone ever told him to
not interrupt? I can imagine his reply as something like
"why should I shut up? this is MY show!"


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-12-07 17:58 [#01418598]
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FUCK FUCK FUCK


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-07 18:07 [#01418614]
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I wonder if that's what Rupert said when he saw the
documentary?!


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-12-07 18:22 [#01418633]
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such a hateclown


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-07 18:34 [#01418659]
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even though it's not really his fault that he didn't know
that those seven candles aren't for hanukka, that page
stills displays his insensitiveness for other people, and
his inability to let others actually get a POINT across...
maybe he knows that if the other part gets a point across,
someone will hear the point, understand the point, and maybe
even sympathise with the point, which is not in his own
personal interest...


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2004-12-07 18:35 [#01418663]
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bill o'reilly is a cunt.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-07 18:37 [#01418667]
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yeah..and while he's the biggest cunt of the people on fox,
there are MANY others like him there, but they mostly don't
get their own shows! I wonder: WHY has he got that show? Did
he start out being somewhat reasonable, or has he been an
asshole all along?!


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2004-12-07 18:39 [#01418671]
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he has always been a complete asshole.

check out the abrahms report if you would like to be equally
angry at some other asshole.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-12-07 18:41 [#01418675]
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It's the "go to Israel" that gets me - now that the
rightwingers have won a second term in office for their
monsterman, the masks are coming off.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2004-12-07 18:42 [#01418680]
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this movie was pretty good and informative. unfortunately,
the people who would most benefit from watching it probably
never will, and even the ones who do, will just write it off
as propaganda!


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2004-12-07 18:48 [#01418682]
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the thing is, the fact that so-called news shows have turned
into opinion soapboxes for extreme right-wingers like
o'reilly and abrahms, and/or into cartoonish
lost-kitten-story, no-facts news, is a reflection of the
gotesque extent to which corporations manipulate society
without most of them even realizing it. look no further
than who has the vested interest - corporations own those
channels and decide what is aired - the reporters are
puppets more than willing to go along with the script or
whatever they are handed by the federal government. it's
all about control.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-07 18:48 [#01418683]
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Yeah, that was one of his ways of preventing the other guy
from get his point across, and he probably expressed a
personal point too!


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-07 18:51 [#01418684]
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yeah, I know.. and that is a RESULT of the fox-monopolish
state! It's not a true monopoly, but as with the election
when Bush first won, they CAN dictate what the other
stations say and do!

I don't have Fox (luckily), but they showed all those other
news-anchors joking about the democrat candidates and such..
(that "john Kerry looks like a frenchman thing was weird...)
is that as common as the movie would have it look like?!


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2004-12-07 18:52 [#01418686]
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bill o'reilly's version of being "fair and balanced" is that
he has a moderate-liberal come on and a hard-line
right-winger come on, and he lets the right-wing guy say
whatever he wants as long as he wants to say it while
o'reilly nods and says i agree-liberals are so crazy, etc.
then he says, what do you think, liberal? "well, i think
that--" NO! Shut up! that's crazy! i should have expected
that coming from a liberal like you!


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2004-12-07 18:55 [#01418690]
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pretty much. the news is constantly publishing stories
about how french people are backwards and don't do anything
right... that suggestion is made a lot. any time something
goes wrong in france, it seems to be a big story here.

and i can't remember seeing a time when ralph nader was
referenced or on a "news" show where he wasn't laughed at or
treated like he was insane by one of the "journalists".


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-07 18:55 [#01418691]
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yeah.. I don't know about the corporations, but the
republicans sure benefit from people being in a paradoxal
state where they feel.. safe AND scared at the same time..
they show "happy goldfish" news which are about "the worlds
biggest cookie" (just saw Bruce Almighty too.. not very
good, but it caricatured "goldfish" news at its worst),
while scaring people with "terrorists." (the repbulicans can
clear it up.. and ban abortion and gay marriage in the
process!"


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-12-07 18:56 [#01418692]
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i want to kill ORielly with a rusty spoon.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-07 19:00 [#01418693]
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yeah.. he mostly used "liberal" like it was a disease!

and the nodding! that's a common rhetorical trick.. it shows
acceptance by another figure with authority (I noticed in
that interview.. O'reilly was placed in the shot in a way
that made him seem big and confident (air in the direction
he's looking) while the guy he was interviewing was placed
in the center more or less, making him seem smaller.. also
O'reilly is - as host - allowed to look directly into the
camera, making it seem like he's talking to the person
watching, instilling them with confidence in him.. guests
are often misconcieved as "rude" if they look directly into
the camera...)


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-07 19:02 [#01418694]
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well, after the "freedom fries," using french as "lower
beings" seems logical... even if people don't think french
are stupid, they accept it as a result of the resentment
many people feel towards the countries that didn't enter
Iraq...


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2004-12-07 19:02 [#01418695]
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good observation - he is slathered in makeup and shot
through great lenses that filter out imperfections so you
see a glowing golden o'reilly beaming out of your tv...
usually the guests are not.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2004-12-07 19:02 [#01418696]
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I watch fox news just for laughs. those fuckers report some
genuine bull shit! Does anyone remember that SNL sketch
where the news anchors were like, "there is something in
your house, and you may be using it right now, that is
deadly. It could kill you. Find out what it is, coming up
this hour!"

Fox News is just like that. It got really good when Mt. St
Hellens was big news. But even though St. Hellens is still
smoking and earthquaking, its old news, so these fucks won't
report it!


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-07 19:11 [#01418701]
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it seems like they're PLAYING... it's just a make-belief
television network that hides something much larger, and
they've figued out that people started believing them, so
they could just as well beam their beliefs into everyones
homes, and make up the rest of the stories while the master
plan kept on going, hidden from everyone elses eyes...


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-12-07 20:07 [#01418710]
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o'reilly's technique is that he asks his interviewee a
totally loaded question, then cuts them off and doesn't let
them clarify how an answer to the question is impossible,
and then redicules them for not answering the question.

that's how he destroyed mike moore. moore didn't even
really try to point out the bias in the questions.

red herring: any diversion intended to distract
attention from the main issue.


he's a master at that.


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2004-12-07 20:07 [#01418711]
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My organization is featured in this film. They interviewed
my boss.


 

offline mimi on 2004-12-07 20:14 [#01418715]
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netflix +


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2004-12-07 20:17 [#01418716]
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i've got to find this movie...


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-12-07 20:25 [#01418719]
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It also helps that Michael Moore isn't terribly bright.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-12-07 20:30 [#01418722]
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still, he should've know o'reilly's style, and been prepared
for that.

he didn't even try.


 

offline chambre noire from Iceland on 2004-12-08 00:27 [#01418821]
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attention all: be sure to watch this documentary!

torrent link [383 mb download]


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-12-08 07:04 [#01418971]
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I saw this a couple of months ago on Dutch television.

I was completely shocked by the insanity of O'Reilly too,
ofcourse.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-12-08 07:06 [#01418974]
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thanks, btw. I do want to see it again.

it's also on dvd, and quite cheap it is too.

if I remember correctly, they filmmakers started selling
dvd's of the documentary through their site and sold a LOT
with little media attention being given.


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2004-12-08 07:27 [#01418991]
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It went Creative Commons a while back if anyone wants to
remix it.


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2004-12-08 07:31 [#01418992]
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My boss:


Attached picture

 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-08 07:40 [#01418995]
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people that go to his show shouldn't let him interrupt...
they should speak louder and louder until he had to keep his
mouth shut!

it also seems like he actually BELIEVES he's showing the
truth! when he threatened that guy who's dad had died after
the show! I.. just can't believe such people exist, and much
less that they're allowed on television, and it's EVEN
harder to understand that some people actually BELIEVE the
fucker!


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-12-08 08:34 [#01419023]
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isn't that discussed in the documentary, though?

that he lies such a lot that he has started to believe in
it?


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-12-08 08:44 [#01419041]
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that dude's the long email king!


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-12-08 09:22 [#01419060]
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fox's stance on canada


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-08 10:00 [#01419086]
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yeah, they say that since he's such a pathological liar, you
can't sue him for false information/misquoting and such,
because it will be impossible to prove that he's lying...
the bastard!


 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-12-08 10:05 [#01419090]
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Fuck Rupert Murdoch.
Not content with knowing he's going to hell, he's so
impatient he's contributing to making it hell here.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-08 10:15 [#01419098]
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WTF?

That station keeps getting more and more absurd!


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-12-11 21:21 [#01422858]
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I'm watching this thing in 15 minute doses - about all I can
take before I want to crush skulls.

omg/wtf/lol - this goes beyond the PARODIES of the right
wing the Dead Kennedys used to have in their songs and in
their album insert art -

How fucking stupid are Americans to allow this ignorant
shitspewing bile duct on their airwaves? Why isn't the
public rising up in outrage and demanding that each and
every Fox employee be mouthfucked by drunken circus clowns?

FUCK THE MOUtH OF BILL O REILLY WITH DRUNKEN CIRCUS CLOWN
PENIS


 


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