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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-07 17:46 [#01418586]
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I just saw this, and I must say: up until now, I thought Fox networks actually had a few REPORTERS, but hell no! they've only got a bunch of morons having a neverending birthday-party, telling jokes about and discrediting people they don't like.. also, they seem to be taken SERIOUSLY a large amount of people over there!
I especially disliked that O'reilly asshole.. he has nothing to do on television.. his ethics are non-existing at best, and I have to wonder: has he EVER had a discussion with someone, or does he only do moronic monologs? He was like a spoiled 5-year old who held his ears when people he disagreed with spoke, only he figured out that holding his ears doesn't work in "grown-up world," so he tells people to "shut up!"
Also; how can a NEWS networks officials say stuff like "americans who don't support the war in iraq can SHUT UP!"
Americans are living in a third-world country, and someone should DO something about it!
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-12-07 17:49 [#01418589]
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Yeah O'Reilly is a supreme bumhole. I liked when he was interviewing the son of a guy who'd died on 9-11, but who disagreed with Bush's policies, adn O'Reilly's best comeback was "SHUUUUDUUUUPPP" pronounced just like that over and over. He says it just like a drunken fuckup out in the street at 4 a.m.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-07 17:56 [#01418597]
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yeah.. that interview with that guy.. that was an OUTRAGE! It made me want to punch O'reilly, and I credit the guy he interviewed for holding back! Especially when he used his DEAD FATHER and his mother AGAINST him! I bet they'd both be proud of their son for standing up to that asshole! I loved it when he kept talking when O'reilly interrupted, and that one time he made him wait his turn! That was the greatest moment in the entire documentary!
How does O'reilly get away with it? Generally in television, interrupting makes you look bad, and telling people to shut up is NOT good debate-tech... Has anyone ever told him to not interrupt? I can imagine his reply as something like "why should I shut up? this is MY show!"
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-12-07 17:58 [#01418598]
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FUCK FUCK FUCK
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-07 18:07 [#01418614]
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I wonder if that's what Rupert said when he saw the documentary?!
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-12-07 18:22 [#01418633]
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such a hateclown
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-07 18:34 [#01418659]
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even though it's not really his fault that he didn't know that those seven candles aren't for hanukka, that page stills displays his insensitiveness for other people, and his inability to let others actually get a POINT across... maybe he knows that if the other part gets a point across, someone will hear the point, understand the point, and maybe even sympathise with the point, which is not in his own personal interest...
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-12-07 18:35 [#01418663]
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bill o'reilly is a cunt.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-07 18:37 [#01418667]
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yeah..and while he's the biggest cunt of the people on fox, there are MANY others like him there, but they mostly don't get their own shows! I wonder: WHY has he got that show? Did he start out being somewhat reasonable, or has he been an asshole all along?!
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-12-07 18:39 [#01418671]
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he has always been a complete asshole.
check out the abrahms report if you would like to be equally angry at some other asshole.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-12-07 18:41 [#01418675]
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It's the "go to Israel" that gets me - now that the rightwingers have won a second term in office for their monsterman, the masks are coming off.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-12-07 18:42 [#01418680]
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this movie was pretty good and informative. unfortunately, the people who would most benefit from watching it probably never will, and even the ones who do, will just write it off as propaganda!
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-12-07 18:48 [#01418682]
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the thing is, the fact that so-called news shows have turned into opinion soapboxes for extreme right-wingers like o'reilly and abrahms, and/or into cartoonish lost-kitten-story, no-facts news, is a reflection of the gotesque extent to which corporations manipulate society without most of them even realizing it. look no further than who has the vested interest - corporations own those channels and decide what is aired - the reporters are puppets more than willing to go along with the script or whatever they are handed by the federal government. it's all about control.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-07 18:48 [#01418683]
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Yeah, that was one of his ways of preventing the other guy from get his point across, and he probably expressed a personal point too!
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-07 18:51 [#01418684]
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yeah, I know.. and that is a RESULT of the fox-monopolish state! It's not a true monopoly, but as with the election when Bush first won, they CAN dictate what the other stations say and do!
I don't have Fox (luckily), but they showed all those other news-anchors joking about the democrat candidates and such.. (that "john Kerry looks like a frenchman thing was weird...) is that as common as the movie would have it look like?!
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-12-07 18:52 [#01418686]
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bill o'reilly's version of being "fair and balanced" is that he has a moderate-liberal come on and a hard-line right-winger come on, and he lets the right-wing guy say whatever he wants as long as he wants to say it while o'reilly nods and says i agree-liberals are so crazy, etc. then he says, what do you think, liberal? "well, i think that--" NO! Shut up! that's crazy! i should have expected that coming from a liberal like you!
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-12-07 18:55 [#01418690]
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pretty much. the news is constantly publishing stories about how french people are backwards and don't do anything right... that suggestion is made a lot. any time something goes wrong in france, it seems to be a big story here.
and i can't remember seeing a time when ralph nader was referenced or on a "news" show where he wasn't laughed at or treated like he was insane by one of the "journalists".
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-07 18:55 [#01418691]
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yeah.. I don't know about the corporations, but the republicans sure benefit from people being in a paradoxal state where they feel.. safe AND scared at the same time.. they show "happy goldfish" news which are about "the worlds biggest cookie" (just saw Bruce Almighty too.. not very good, but it caricatured "goldfish" news at its worst), while scaring people with "terrorists." (the repbulicans can clear it up.. and ban abortion and gay marriage in the process!"
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-12-07 18:56 [#01418692]
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i want to kill ORielly with a rusty spoon.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-07 19:00 [#01418693]
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yeah.. he mostly used "liberal" like it was a disease!
and the nodding! that's a common rhetorical trick.. it shows acceptance by another figure with authority (I noticed in that interview.. O'reilly was placed in the shot in a way that made him seem big and confident (air in the direction he's looking) while the guy he was interviewing was placed in the center more or less, making him seem smaller.. also O'reilly is - as host - allowed to look directly into the camera, making it seem like he's talking to the person watching, instilling them with confidence in him.. guests are often misconcieved as "rude" if they look directly into the camera...)
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-07 19:02 [#01418694]
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well, after the "freedom fries," using french as "lower beings" seems logical... even if people don't think french are stupid, they accept it as a result of the resentment many people feel towards the countries that didn't enter Iraq...
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-12-07 19:02 [#01418695]
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good observation - he is slathered in makeup and shot through great lenses that filter out imperfections so you see a glowing golden o'reilly beaming out of your tv... usually the guests are not.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-12-07 19:02 [#01418696]
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I watch fox news just for laughs. those fuckers report some genuine bull shit! Does anyone remember that SNL sketch where the news anchors were like, "there is something in your house, and you may be using it right now, that is deadly. It could kill you. Find out what it is, coming up this hour!"
Fox News is just like that. It got really good when Mt. St Hellens was big news. But even though St. Hellens is still smoking and earthquaking, its old news, so these fucks won't report it!
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-07 19:11 [#01418701]
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it seems like they're PLAYING... it's just a make-belief television network that hides something much larger, and they've figued out that people started believing them, so they could just as well beam their beliefs into everyones homes, and make up the rest of the stories while the master plan kept on going, hidden from everyone elses eyes...
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-12-07 20:07 [#01418710]
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o'reilly's technique is that he asks his interviewee a totally loaded question, then cuts them off and doesn't let them clarify how an answer to the question is impossible, and then redicules them for not answering the question.
that's how he destroyed mike moore. moore didn't even really try to point out the bias in the questions.
red herring: any diversion intended to distract attention from the main issue.
he's a master at that.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2004-12-07 20:07 [#01418711]
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My organization is featured in this film. They interviewed my boss.
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mimi
on 2004-12-07 20:14 [#01418715]
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netflix +
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-12-07 20:17 [#01418716]
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i've got to find this movie...
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-12-07 20:25 [#01418719]
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It also helps that Michael Moore isn't terribly bright.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-12-07 20:30 [#01418722]
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still, he should've know o'reilly's style, and been prepared for that.
he didn't even try.
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chambre noire
from Iceland on 2004-12-08 00:27 [#01418821]
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attention all: be sure to watch this documentary!
torrent link [383 mb download]
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-12-08 07:04 [#01418971]
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I saw this a couple of months ago on Dutch television.
I was completely shocked by the insanity of O'Reilly too, ofcourse.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-12-08 07:06 [#01418974]
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thanks, btw. I do want to see it again.
it's also on dvd, and quite cheap it is too.
if I remember correctly, they filmmakers started selling dvd's of the documentary through their site and sold a LOT with little media attention being given.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2004-12-08 07:27 [#01418991]
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It went Creative Commons a while back if anyone wants to remix it.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2004-12-08 07:31 [#01418992]
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My boss:
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-08 07:40 [#01418995]
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people that go to his show shouldn't let him interrupt... they should speak louder and louder until he had to keep his mouth shut!
it also seems like he actually BELIEVES he's showing the truth! when he threatened that guy who's dad had died after the show! I.. just can't believe such people exist, and much less that they're allowed on television, and it's EVEN harder to understand that some people actually BELIEVE the fucker!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-12-08 08:34 [#01419023]
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isn't that discussed in the documentary, though?
that he lies such a lot that he has started to believe in it?
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-12-08 08:44 [#01419041]
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that dude's the long email king!
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-12-08 09:22 [#01419060]
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fox's stance on canada
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-08 10:00 [#01419086]
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yeah, they say that since he's such a pathological liar, you can't sue him for false information/misquoting and such, because it will be impossible to prove that he's lying... the bastard!
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hobbes
from age on 2004-12-08 10:05 [#01419090]
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Fuck Rupert Murdoch. Not content with knowing he's going to hell, he's so impatient he's contributing to making it hell here.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-08 10:15 [#01419098]
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WTF?
That station keeps getting more and more absurd!
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-12-11 21:21 [#01422858]
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I'm watching this thing in 15 minute doses - about all I can take before I want to crush skulls.
omg/wtf/lol - this goes beyond the PARODIES of the right wing the Dead Kennedys used to have in their songs and in their album insert art -
How fucking stupid are Americans to allow this ignorant shitspewing bile duct on their airwaves? Why isn't the public rising up in outrage and demanding that each and every Fox employee be mouthfucked by drunken circus clowns?
FUCK THE MOUtH OF BILL O REILLY WITH DRUNKEN CIRCUS CLOWN PENIS
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