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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-12-05 05:01 [#01416209]
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http://pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/s/squarepusher/g...
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-12-05 05:02 [#01416210]
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p(sh)itchfork even
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-12-05 05:03 [#01416211]
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fuck not that link
THIS LINK
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-12-05 05:07 [#01416213]
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i'm having a bad day xltronic wise
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-12-05 05:09 [#01416214]
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twice the same link
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2004-12-05 05:11 [#01416215]
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hmmm. i suppose he has a few points. nevertheless, i enjoy the album from time to time.
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-12-05 05:20 [#01416219]
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*hides in shame
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optimus prime
on 2004-12-05 05:27 [#01416220]
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i mostly agree with pitchforkmedia. idm needs to evolve.
drukqs is still the best electronic album to me because of the analogue production sound. it actually sounds like real music (physical and warm) instead of crashing computer noises set to the same breaks and nintendo samples, of which squarepusher is the biggest offender out of the big guys. drukqs is the only electronic album i've heard since music has the right to children that's tried to advance the genre in some way (to a lesser extent i'd also give honours to chris clark's empty the bones of you and autechre's draft 7.30), only too many people refuse to acknowledge this fact. now we get analord and a thousand nerds with free software making noise for other nerds. it's all up to boards of canada now; if they don't advance the genre with their new album, then it's all over.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2004-12-05 05:28 [#01416221]
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Fuck Ryan Schreiber, not Pitchfork. Also, this review is not that bad. Also, it's old.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-12-05 05:30 [#01416222]
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yeah, i usually agree wtih them as well..there's too much boring music.
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-12-05 05:33 [#01416225]
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so i'm the only one here who thinks this is a mindblowing masterpiece?
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optimus prime
on 2004-12-05 05:34 [#01416226]
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random recommendation: have you heard the arcade fire? i'm not sure if you're still in your rock phase, but read pitchfork's review of funeral. i agree with it.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2004-12-05 05:35 [#01416228]
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So your only problem is that Ryan Schreiber disagrees with you? How dare he?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-12-05 05:36 [#01416229]
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dunno..personally i love it, although i haven't listened to it in surely a year..too much interesting music beeing released to vaste my time on old albums :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-12-05 05:36 [#01416230]
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thanks...i'll check that.
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-12-05 05:39 [#01416232]
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pfffhhh go plastic is more intresting than all of 2003 music combined.
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-12-05 05:40 [#01416233]
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excluding the bad music
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-12-05 05:43 [#01416235]
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not quite sure about that...there's one album i listened to like 30 times in a row since i got it last week..and it's almost 20 years old.
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-12-05 05:44 [#01416237]
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"too much interesting music beeing released to vaste my time on old albums" :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-12-05 05:46 [#01416238]
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yeah, it was rereleased this year...and that says it all really - there are so many possibilities in music creating these days but yet nothing comes close to that 20 year old album.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2004-12-05 05:47 [#01416241]
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What Is It?
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-12-05 05:47 [#01416244]
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all of squarepushers albums only contain 1 or 2 good songs anyway
boo you, squarepusher, pushah of the square and maker of mostly mediocre monkeyshit
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-12-05 05:48 [#01416245]
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anyway, electronic music nowadays isnt really progressing anywhere. im listening much more to old music than new music at the moment (not just electronica)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-12-05 05:49 [#01416246]
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im listening to the 1st song now...reminds me of the strokes quite a bit (i like them a lot)...sounds real nice, im going to get this, thanks.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-12-05 05:50 [#01416248]
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world of echo
(not the album i mentioned in the first post, although there are couple of songs on both albums).
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-12-05 05:59 [#01416257]
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heh, actually the first song is the only one reminding me of the strokes, the rest sounds quite different..the singer has voice very similar to robert smith (the cure) in some parts...lovely stuff!!
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2004-12-05 06:01 [#01416260]
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I am downloading that. YES!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-12-05 06:02 [#01416261]
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you can get it from me if you like...there are two folders though - 1st one with 3 songs and another one with 14 i think...
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2004-12-05 06:06 [#01416262]
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It's all right, I'm already getting it from Alex Mingoose.
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2004-12-05 06:06 [#01416263]
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Ultravisitor got 7.9, which is a bit fairer.
Although the reviewers are pretty dumb... apparently the Ultravisitor title track is like a longer version of My Red Hot Car. Um not really...?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-12-05 06:07 [#01416264]
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cool..btw, i got send the original couple of days ago - should be here on monday i hope :)
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optimus prime
on 2004-12-05 06:08 [#01416266]
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i'm glad you like them. :) i don't think they've been mentioned on the board before.
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-12-05 06:11 [#01416268]
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you might not like his music, but saying he's mediocre is just ignorant. noone can match the pusha, unless your afx.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-12-05 06:12 [#01416269]
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omg..there's so much happening..the songs just keep evolving!! awesomeness.
deadeight probably knows them, appart from him there's very little chance for that :)
maybe you should make a thread about it...shame if more rock fans wouldn't hear this one..
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-12-05 06:14 [#01416270]
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ok could you guys discuss this somewhere else? this is offtopic
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-12-05 06:17 [#01416278]
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actually it's kinda on topic...it got a deserved mark on pitchfork :)
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2004-12-05 06:34 [#01416288]
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I think Go Plastic is at least worthy of an 8, and I don't like how the review suggests breakbeats should be left in tha past. It keeps saying he rehashed old ideas but I don't see that at all.
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-12-05 06:47 [#01416291]
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go plastic is a really unique record. he didn't rehash anything from his previous albums, that's total bollocks. he took his drill & bass masterskills to a whole new level with all kinds of innovative techniques, whether it was the drum programming or the sound manipulation. if rehashing is something he considers to be using the amen break again and again, he doesn't know shit coming out of his ass. he's always used it in very creative way, the things he has managed to squeeze out of that break is phenomenal and true work of genius.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-12-05 08:48 [#01416360]
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Like Aphex Twin, Squarepusher exists in a sphere that, for many non-diehard fans, has to put up double the cash to reap the same rewards as it did before folks already knew what to expect. - Dominique Leone
So true. Electronic music is held to an unfair standard of innovation. No one listens to blues or rock and says "Dear god, these people are still using the pentatonic scale?!"
One of the primary pleasures of listening to experimental-ish electronica is the thrill of novelty when someone invents a weird new technique or song structure... and because of that every electronic composer is expected (or at least desired) to mutate into near unrecognizability with every release.
So I guess what I'm saying is electronic music can either constantly evolve and be the scout of new territories, or it can work familiar territory and become a genre which it already is in many ways. When you have as many people doing it as there are now it can't help but be a genre because only a tiny minority of them have the vision to transcend its boundaries.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-12-05 08:58 [#01416372]
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I'd agree that Go Plastic is worth 5/10 and UltraVisitor is worth 7/10. Go Plastic is a really average middle of the road album and certainly not the masterpeice of work some people make it outto be.
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mrgypsum
on 2004-12-05 09:25 [#01416383]
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i tend to disagree, but its purely a taste argument, im not saying that go plastic is some gigantic step forward or whatever, i just think its a hell of a good album.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-12-05 09:32 [#01416387]
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people that are too focused on mostly electronic music may value this album a bit more than it deserve i think...it's great, sure, but there are other very inspiring musicians outhere.
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mrgypsum
on 2004-12-05 09:34 [#01416388]
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when i first heard it, i was like, this sucks really bad, but then i got hard normal daddy, and loved it, and then i started playing this again and WHOA, it took me a while but i really like it, for me its spushers best - its all taste, also i really enjoy only electronic now, as ive listened to non electronic for too long
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-12-05 09:35 [#01416389]
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good point
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-12-05 09:37 [#01416390]
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and i agree with lee's ratings. his newest album certainly is more accessable and listenable.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-12-05 09:38 [#01416391]
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and i enjoy reading pitchfork on a daily basis. but if you need some daft outlet for your hatred i guess a website writing music reviews that you don't agree with 100% is as good as any other...
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-12-05 09:38 [#01416392]
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yeah sure there are. but they aren't as good.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-12-05 11:08 [#01416435]
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Hear Ye, Hear Ye! The breakbeat is hereby extinct! And for that matter, so is the bass guitar and the synthesizer! All of these are now obsolete in electronic music and no one may use them! I am Pitchfork, and as I declare it, so shall it be done!
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-12-05 11:14 [#01416444]
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In these days of the intarweb I'm surprised people have to agree or disagree with Pitchfork as though it meant anything more than anyone else's opinion. I mean it's not liek the bad old days when we had to read Rolling Stone or Spin for reviews instead of getting a Slovenian or Polish perspective.
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mrgypsum
on 2004-12-05 11:15 [#01416447]
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:) - well said and good point
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