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offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-09 09:02 [#01388818]
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Is it me, or do a lot of IDM albums sound a bit too similar
sound-design wise these days? Maybe it's all those super
complex plugins everybody is into, but I remember the days
where sounds were really fresh and it was harder to define
that "typical sound" or a lot of albums with the same overal
sound in the electronic music world.

It's hard to explain what those sounds are....just those
glitchy DSP-driven farting sounds that kinda whizz about. Or
something.


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-09 09:04 [#01388820]
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*but I remember the days
where sounds were really fresh and it was harder to define
that "typical sound" or find two IDM albums from different
artists with similar sounds being utilized.

Sorry I can't construct sentences today.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-11-09 09:04 [#01388821]
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hey! look! itsnt that the guy that only likes music if its
produced in a certain way?


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-09 09:07 [#01388823]
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wtf?

That thread had an entirely different purpose to what you
understood. Sorry.

I don't care how it's produced-I was making the point that
if a computer simply spits the music out and there is little
artistic involvment other then a few equations, that bothers
me.
Overall, I couldn't care less how it is produced-I listen to
people who make albums on the fly, completely improvised,
and others who plan it all out intricately. It's all good.


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2004-11-09 09:08 [#01388826]
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Yep , i agreism , much of it sounds the sameism.


 

offline brokephones from Londontario on 2004-11-09 09:10 [#01388827]
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I like music that reveals the composer's personality, like
that guy who does the Toy Story theme!



 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-09 09:11 [#01388828]
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I don't get why though. With the amount of synthesizers and
harware, as well as software out there, you'd expect more
variety.

I mean, I also listen to a alot of dark ambient stuff, and
that has a lot more variation soundwise overall (even though
it's electronic music like IDM.)


 

offline brokephones from Londontario on 2004-11-09 09:11 [#01388829]
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We need to stop trying to put this music under an umbrella.


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-09 09:12 [#01388831]
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Well, I don't like putting music into catagories either, I
think it's idiotic.

But it's the easiest way to get my point across.


 

offline brokephones from Londontario on 2004-11-09 09:13 [#01388833]
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maybe that is the point


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-09 09:15 [#01388839]
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Ok then-the typical stuff you hear on Planet Mu, Rephlex,
Skam, Warp etc.



 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-11-09 09:15 [#01388840]
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R n B!!!


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-11-09 09:15 [#01388841]
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absolutely


 

offline isnieZot from pooptown (Belgium) on 2004-11-09 10:14 [#01388934]
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hey here's an idea.
go make something totally new and innovative yourselfe
instead of bitching about it.


 

offline bryce_berny from chronno (Canada) on 2004-11-09 10:50 [#01388968]
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Computer aided music does not have to sound "glitch".
"Glitch" is usually a result of someone using
software/hardware which they don't fully understand. Trial
and error can sound really good. But as far as algorithmic
composing goes, you can invest just as much time into your
music as any other "real" musician does, and achieve
ultimately beautiful resuts with computer aided music.


 

offline happy cycling from berlin on 2004-11-09 11:28 [#01389011]
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electronic music progresses through a ripple effect. aphex
drops a new lp with a big splash, and the waves get smaller
and smaller and more and more predictable as time goes on.


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-09 14:34 [#01389200]
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"hey here's an idea.
go make something totally new and innovative yourselfe
instead of bitching about it. "

Here's an idea: learn that YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE BETTER AT
SOMETHING to CRITICIZE OR GIVE YOUR OPINION on it.

How about we all fucking just say everything is amazing,
because we can't do better!? "Oh, I love that shit picture
of a pot of flowers, even thought it's completely
unoriginal, because I couldn't paint better myself!"



 

offline bryce_berny from chronno (Canada) on 2004-11-09 15:42 [#01389270]
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I think the smell of my own shit is better than some music.
Namely, music by John "The Cougar" Mellancamp, and Rod "The
Puckered Asshole" Stewart


 

offline OK on 2004-11-09 17:07 [#01389337]
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ANALORD!!!


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-10 08:41 [#01390007]
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donkey yellow tree.


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2004-11-10 08:47 [#01390012]
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whats an IDM album?


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2004-11-10 08:55 [#01390017]
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I blame the Buffer Override.


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-10 08:56 [#01390018]
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lol!! That's an plugin I've heard fucking everywhere!

Mind you, I'm no better...ever since I got buffer override
I've been addicted to it. It's toooooooo easy. :)


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-11-10 08:57 [#01390020]
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I agree with the sameness factor. I dont think it is 100%
common but it does happen quite frequently.

happy cycling. well put.


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-10 09:21 [#01390056]
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Perhaps people should stop masturbating over plugins and
start using pan pipes and stuff.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-11-10 10:06 [#01390093]
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I don't totally agree with the vibe you're giving off (maybe
I'm reading too much into it), but yeah, there's definitely
artists out there that don't really have any pizazz or
spark, but they sure do know how to conjure some very
technically sound music out of their laptop. But I don't
think it's a widespread problem, this creative doldrums
criticism has been around in every genre as much as music
itself has... there's plenty of good stuff out there. When
you say ''a lot of IDM albums'', I definitely have to agree
with that, but on the other hand, that lot is really pretty
negligible.


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-10 10:11 [#01390097]
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Yeah. I didn't mean to come across as too negative, and I'm
full aware there is a lot of highly original stuff.

But I was talking sepecifically about sound design, and how
it is surprising that a lot of sounds are similar in lots of
albums, especially considering the technology available.


 


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