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offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-03 15:10 [#01381818]
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just saw the third (and last) episode of this BBC
documentary series, all about the "politics of fear".

it told in detail how the supposed Al-Queda-threat doesn't
exist, as Al-Queada as a structured organisation doesn't
exist.

the filmmakers propose that this "threat" has been created
by what the documentary calls the "neo-conservatives" (the
Bush administration). these days politicians no longer can
keep their power by providing a positive ideology but create
an ideology of fear, whereby there is still a sense of Good
versus Evil.

overall this programme has made me say "fucking hell!" a lot
and has been very, very informative.

hope it gets repeated or someone rips it to torrent.



 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-11-03 15:11 [#01381823]
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don't belive everything you see...that's all true though.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-11-03 15:12 [#01381824]
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LAZY LINKZOR


 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-11-03 15:13 [#01381827]
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yeah interesting stuff, and stuff.


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-11-03 15:13 [#01381828]
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gmail me if a torrent surfaces


 

offline Rostasky from United States on 2004-11-03 15:14 [#01381832]
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Gmail is NOT a verb!


 

offline deepspace9mm from filth on 2004-11-03 15:16 [#01381838]
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Yeah, i hope it comes on on dvd or something, i somehow
managed to miss the second episode. Adam curtis' "century of
the self" was fucking brilliant as well.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-03 15:17 [#01381839]
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thanks, mr. Shope.

maybe someone at delerium-vault.com can rip this sucker.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-11-03 15:21 [#01381843]
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1
2


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-03 15:23 [#01381845]
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someone already has seeded the first episode at
delerium-vault - you'll need to register first.

torrent info


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-03 15:23 [#01381846]
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you smell of roses, mr. Shope


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-11-03 15:26 [#01381848]
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i'm looking forward to seeing this.


 

offline nobsmuggler from silly mid-off on 2004-11-03 15:28 [#01381852]
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and bacon :)


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-11-03 15:29 [#01381853]
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Its also the foundation of how Christianity works...

Create a fear of something that doesn't really exist (hell)
and create a solution for it (jesus)

Vote for Jesus and he'll save us from hell. right?


 

offline nobsmuggler from silly mid-off on 2004-11-03 15:32 [#01381857]
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26hrs and ill be watching this :)


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-03 15:33 [#01381859]
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that is exactly the point that is made at the end of this
evening's programme - the whole thing is based on taking
actions to prevent completely assumed problems, not waiting
to find evidence first to see if the problem actually exists
in the first place.

and if you fall victim to these preventive actions - what
can you do? how can you proove you weren't going to do
something that was imagined in the first place?

in the documentary they give plenty of examples of so-called
"sleeper cells" - supposed terrorist cells. the presented
evidence is astounding in it's non-existance. utterly
astounding. (they give examples of trials like these in the
US and the UK, btw.)


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-03 15:35 [#01381860]
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the people in these "sleeper cells" were just kids, who may
have done stuff that looks suspicious on first glance, but
they never did anything wrong.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-11-03 15:36 [#01381862]
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i hate people.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-03 15:38 [#01381865]
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that made me laugh! :)


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-11-03 15:40 [#01381868]
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you're pretty ok, for a person.

but, i still hate you. sorry, no offense.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-03 15:43 [#01381870]
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sweet!


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-11-03 15:46 [#01381875]
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:)


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-11-03 15:55 [#01381893]
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Thanks jason/alex combo!


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-11-03 15:58 [#01381899]
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BY OUR POWERS COMBINED WE ARE... CAP'N JALEX !

 

..... actually, that sounds like some sort of buttlube...
strike that from the record please.


 

offline deepspace9mm from filth on 2004-11-03 16:04 [#01381912]
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Somewhere between lubricant and a high strength cleaning
product. Which would be pretty hard to market, i guess.


 

offline danbrusca from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-03 16:26 [#01381937]
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One tiny note, Bush himself isn't actually a neo-con.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-03 16:32 [#01381943]
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that's true.


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-11-03 16:33 [#01381945]
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Mmmmm torrents, makes me feel like I'm on a
pornsite.................


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-03 16:35 [#01381946]
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yay for subjective reality!


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-18 13:17 [#01465659]
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repeats of this series are starting this evening on BBC2, at
23:20.


 

offline deepspace9mm from filth on 2005-01-18 13:19 [#01465663]
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It clashes with the repeats of peep show :-(

Bums.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-18 13:22 [#01465666]
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peep show sucks donkeyballs.


 

offline deepspace9mm from filth on 2005-01-18 13:26 [#01465671]
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I might kill you one day.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-18 13:27 [#01465673]
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ha ha!

I'm silly! I have never seen peep show. just the dvd-box.



 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2005-01-18 13:30 [#01465675]
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thx qrter, i'd love to see this, hopefully those torrent
links r u when i get home!


 

offline Mertens from Motor City (United States) on 2005-01-18 13:30 [#01465676]
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I wonder when this will air on Dateline NBC? :)


 


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