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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-03 15:10 [#01381818] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator
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 | just saw the third (and last) episode of this BBC documentary series, all about the "politics of fear".
 
 it told in detail how the supposed Al-Queda-threat doesn't
 exist, as Al-Queada as a structured organisation doesn't
 exist.
 
 the filmmakers propose that this "threat" has been created
 by what the documentary calls the "neo-conservatives" (the
 Bush administration). these days politicians no longer can
 keep their power by providing a positive ideology but create
 an ideology of fear, whereby there is still a sense of Good
 versus Evil.
 
 overall this programme has made me say "fucking hell!" a lot
 and has been very, very informative.
 
 hope it gets repeated or someone rips it to torrent.
 
 
 
 
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         |  tolstoyed
             from the ocean on 2004-11-03 15:11 [#01381823] Points: 50073 Status: Moderator
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 | don't belive everything you see...that's all true though. 
 
 
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         |  epohs
             from )C: on 2004-11-03 15:12 [#01381824] Points: 17620 Status: Lurker
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 | LAZY LINKZOR 
 
 
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         |  hobbes
             from age on 2004-11-03 15:13 [#01381827] Points: 8168 Status: Lurker
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 | yeah interesting stuff, and stuff. 
 
 
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         |  virginpusher
             from County Clare on 2004-11-03 15:13 [#01381828] Points: 27325 Status: Lurker
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 | gmail me if a torrent surfaces 
 
 
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         |  Rostasky
             from United States on 2004-11-03 15:14 [#01381832] Points: 1572 Status: Lurker
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 | Gmail is NOT a verb! 
 
 
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         |  deepspace9mm
             from filth on 2004-11-03 15:16 [#01381838] Points: 6846 Status: Addict
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 | Yeah, i hope it comes on on dvd or something, i somehow managed to miss the second episode. Adam curtis' "century of
 the self" was fucking brilliant as well.
 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-03 15:17 [#01381839] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to epohs: #01381824
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 | thanks, mr. Shope. 
 maybe someone at delerium-vault.com can rip this sucker.
 
 
 
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         |  epohs
             from )C: on 2004-11-03 15:21 [#01381843] Points: 17620 Status: Lurker | Followup to virginpusher: #01381828
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-03 15:23 [#01381845] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator
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 | someone already has seeded the first episode at delerium-vault - you'll need to register first.
 
 torrent info
 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-03 15:23 [#01381846] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to epohs: #01381843
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 | you smell of roses, mr. Shope 
 
 
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         |  epohs
             from )C: on 2004-11-03 15:26 [#01381848] Points: 17620 Status: Lurker
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 | i'm looking forward to seeing this. 
 
 
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         |  nobsmuggler
             from silly mid-off on 2004-11-03 15:28 [#01381852] Points: 6265 Status: Addict | Followup to qrter: #01381846
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 | and bacon :) 
 
 
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         |  weatheredstoner
             from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-11-03 15:29 [#01381853] Points: 12585 Status: Lurker | Followup to qrter: #01381818
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 | Its also the foundation of how Christianity works... 
 Create a fear of something that doesn't really exist (hell)
 and create a solution for it (jesus)
 
 Vote for Jesus and he'll save us from hell. right?
 
 
 
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         |  nobsmuggler
             from silly mid-off on 2004-11-03 15:32 [#01381857] Points: 6265 Status: Addict
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 | 26hrs and ill be watching this :) 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-03 15:33 [#01381859] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to weatheredstoner: #01381853
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 | that is exactly the point that is made at the end of this evening's programme - the whole thing is based on taking
 actions to prevent completely assumed problems, not waiting
 to find evidence first to see if the problem actually exists
 in the first place.
 
 and if you fall victim to these preventive actions - what
 can you do? how can you proove you weren't going to do
 something that was imagined in the first place?
 
 in the documentary they give plenty of examples of so-called
 "sleeper cells" - supposed terrorist cells. the presented
 evidence is astounding in it's non-existance. utterly
 astounding. (they give examples of trials like these in the
 US and the UK, btw.)
 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-03 15:35 [#01381860] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to qrter: #01381859
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 | the people in these "sleeper cells" were just kids, who may have done stuff that looks suspicious on first glance, but
 they never did anything wrong.
 
 
 
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         |  epohs
             from )C: on 2004-11-03 15:36 [#01381862] Points: 17620 Status: Lurker
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 | i hate people. 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-03 15:38 [#01381865] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to epohs: #01381862
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 | that made me laugh! :) 
 
 
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         |  epohs
             from )C: on 2004-11-03 15:40 [#01381868] Points: 17620 Status: Lurker | Followup to qrter: #01381865
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 | you're pretty ok, for a person. 
 but, i still hate you.  sorry, no offense.
 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-03 15:43 [#01381870] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to epohs: #01381868
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 | sweet! 
 
 
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         |  epohs
             from )C: on 2004-11-03 15:46 [#01381875] Points: 17620 Status: Lurker | Followup to qrter: #01381870
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 | :) 
 
 
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         |  virginpusher
             from County Clare on 2004-11-03 15:55 [#01381893] Points: 27325 Status: Lurker
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 | Thanks jason/alex combo! 
 
 
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         |  epohs
             from )C: on 2004-11-03 15:58 [#01381899] Points: 17620 Status: Lurker
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 | BY OUR POWERS COMBINED WE ARE... CAP'N JALEX ! 
 
 
 ..... actually, that sounds like some sort of buttlube...
 strike that from the record please.
 
 
 
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         |  deepspace9mm
             from filth on 2004-11-03 16:04 [#01381912] Points: 6846 Status: Addict | Followup to epohs: #01381899
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 | Somewhere between lubricant and a high strength cleaning product. Which would be pretty hard to market, i guess.
 
 
 
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         |  danbrusca
             from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-03 16:26 [#01381937] Points: 4570 Status: Lurker | Followup to qrter: #01381818
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 | One tiny note, Bush himself isn't actually a neo-con. 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-03 16:32 [#01381943] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to danbrusca: #01381937
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 | that's true. 
 
 
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         |  DJ Xammax
             from not America on 2004-11-03 16:33 [#01381945] Points: 11512 Status: Lurker
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 | Mmmmm torrents, makes me feel like I'm on a pornsite.................
 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-03 16:35 [#01381946] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to DJ Xammax: #01381945
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 | yay for subjective reality! 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-18 13:17 [#01465659] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator
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 | repeats of this series are starting this evening on BBC2, at 23:20.
 
 
 
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         |  deepspace9mm
             from filth on 2005-01-18 13:19 [#01465663] Points: 6846 Status: Addict
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 | It clashes with the repeats of peep show :-( 
 Bums.
 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-18 13:22 [#01465666] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator
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 | peep show sucks donkeyballs. 
 
 
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         |  deepspace9mm
             from filth on 2005-01-18 13:26 [#01465671] Points: 6846 Status: Addict | Followup to qrter: #01465666
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 | I might kill you one day. 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-18 13:27 [#01465673] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to deepspace9mm: #01465671
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 | ha ha! 
 I'm silly! I have never seen peep show. just the dvd-box.
 
 
 
 
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         |  elusive
             from detroit (United States) on 2005-01-18 13:30 [#01465675] Points: 18369 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | thx qrter, i'd love to see this, hopefully those torrent links r u when i get home!
 
 
 
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         |  Mertens
             from Motor City (United States) on 2005-01-18 13:30 [#01465676] Points: 2064 Status: Lurker | Followup to qrter: #01465673
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 | I wonder when this will air on Dateline NBC? :) 
 
 
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