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offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-10-30 11:25 [#01376758]
Points: 12585 Status: Lurker



Well the one I made a long long time ago was that Bush
would conviently capture Bin Laden before the Nov 2
elections to boost his votes. However at this point in time,
that doesn't seem to be happening. My guess is that the Bush
administration decided that Saddam would be effective enough
for this 4 years, and save Bin Laden for the next 4 years to
continue the Republican (satan's) agenda which consists of
hiding behind values that are logical but not adhered to by
the Republican party...

My next prediction now that Bin Laden isn't captured: Kerry
will win. Thanks.


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-10-30 11:29 [#01376765]
Points: 11512 Status: Lurker



I know a lot of innocents will be killed but if we just blew
up the U.S. we'd be saving a lot of silly bother.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-10-30 12:03 [#01376809]
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Thats the dumbest thing I've heard all day, and I just woke
up 2 hours ago.


 

offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-10-30 14:02 [#01376862]
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"My next prediction now that Bin Laden isn't captured: Kerry

will win. Thanks."

well i hope your right


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2004-10-30 14:06 [#01376865]
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Ha Ha!! Plums with Beaks!


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-10-30 14:06 [#01376866]
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You know I'm right.


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-10-30 14:14 [#01376867]
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:)


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-10-30 14:50 [#01376885]
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I might support you if I had some sort of "hitler" complex.
But no thanks.


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-10-30 14:59 [#01376889]
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I'm not really looking for support, man. I made a joke.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-10-30 15:00 [#01376890]
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damn yo, try being funnier next time :o


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-10-30 15:13 [#01376897]
Points: 11512 Status: Lurker | Followup to weatheredstoner: #01376890



JivverDicker saw the reference, don't be mad because you
didn't get it :)


 

offline Iroel from Pisa (Italy) on 2004-10-30 15:20 [#01376900]
Points: 1129 Status: Regular



Oh my God no...

Please don't tell me that there are going to be 4 mor years
of Osama galore ;__;

I mean I'm tired...the justice league needs new enemies...

What about a new empire of evil in Europe? They should
listen to Pat Robertson you know, the man has vision,
immagination, he knows what people want to see on tv. Why
don't they make this convenient story of how the Pope John
Paul Dies and the antichrist becomes his successor. He puts
up again the Catholic party and conquers all europe
proclaiming the rule the great principate of the vatican.

Then the newly foundeed great principate of the vatican
decides to attack the united states with a new weapon: the
mobile suit.

At first america cannot face the power of such new weapon
and slowly starts losing ground, when a new hope is born:
the gundam.

And bam, fox news ratings go through the roof!


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-10-30 15:20 [#01376902]
Points: 12585 Status: Lurker | Followup to DJ Xammax: #01376897



wtf is Plums with Beaks?


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-10-30 16:39 [#01376949]
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It's a really obscure joke. Don't worry about it.


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-10-30 16:42 [#01376953]
Points: 22557 Status: Lurker



i predict an assasination of some sort


 

offline Rostasky from United States on 2004-10-30 16:46 [#01376955]
Points: 1572 Status: Lurker



I actually know some guys on some terrorist watch list
because they own a couple sniper rifles and say that they
will assassinate the president if he gets reelected. That
would be fun. But unlikely, I suppose.


 

offline revpersona from Plainfield (United States) on 2004-10-30 17:09 [#01376966]
Points: 3167 Status: Lurker



I honestly think Bin Laden is dead....

I mean, if we we're able to find Saddam in a little hut in
Iraq, then I'm sure Bin Laden got his in the mountains. I
got a feeling though that Al-Queda will use his
charateristics and find "posers." His face has become a
symbol for them. As for the election I hope your right
about Kerry winning, though I'm not so optimistic at this
time. :[


 

offline deepspace9mm from filth on 2004-10-30 17:14 [#01376968]
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I believe Mr Laden released a very up-to-date video the
other day. This would be an effective argument against his
death. Unless there were bearded robots or something.

Why would the US government even want to capture
osama, though? They need a figurehead for Dat Dang War On
Dem Cameljockeys.


 

offline Iroel from Pisa (Italy) on 2004-10-30 17:23 [#01376970]
Points: 1129 Status: Regular



I think that some alien army is using binladen as a hand
puppet...

they want as to destroy ourselves and invade us...

Simple tactics divide and conquer...

We will be all enslaved and whipped to death by some anime
looking girl with cat years and cyber-punk clothing in an
effort to build a giant phallic shaped obelisk


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2004-10-30 17:23 [#01376971]
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Hee hee! you need to adjust your tin-foil helmet a bit, +
Bin Laden isn't a Poseur and would you vote for The
governator of California to terminate Usama?


 

offline OK on 2004-10-30 18:39 [#01376986]
Points: 4791 Status: Lurker



"O American people, this is what I have to say about the
causes and results (of the September 11, 2001 attacks) and
the way to avoid another Manhattan.

I tell you that security is a major pillar of human life.
Free men do not renounce their security, irrespective of (US
President George W) Bush's claims that we hate freedom.

Let him (Bush) tell us why we did not attack Sweden, for
example. It is obvious that those who hate freedom cannot
have the pride of the 19 (September 11 suicide hijackers),
God rest their souls.

If we fought you, it is because we are free men, we do not
ignore values, we want to return freedom to our nation. If
you play havoc with our security, we play havoc with yours.

You astonish me. Despite the fact that we are into the
fourth year after September 11, Bush is still misleading you
and hiding the real reason from you, which means that the
reasons to repeat what happened remain.

I will tell you about the reasons of these events and about
the moments in which the decision (to attack) was taken so
you will ponder them.

I swear we never thought of attacking the towers, but when
we saw the injustice and arbitrariness of the US-Israeli
alliance against our brethren in Palestine and Lebanon, it
became too much and the idea came to me.

The events which affected me directly go back to 1982 ...
when America gave the Israelis the green light to invade
Lebanon, with the backing of the US Sixth Fleet.

It is difficult to describe what I felt in these painful
moments, but it created an overwhelming feeling of refusal
of injustice and a compelling determination to punish the
unjust.


 

offline OK on 2004-10-30 18:40 [#01376987]
Points: 4791 Status: Lurker



As I watched the destroyed towers in Lebanon, it occurred
to me that the unjust should suffer the same, that the
towers in America must be destroyed so that America gets a
taste of what we went through, so that it will stop killing
our children and women.

We did not find it hard to deal with Bush and his
administration given the similarity with the regimes in our
countries, half of which are governed by soldiers and the
other half by the offspring of kings and presidents.

We have a long experience with those. Both categories count
people who are arrogant, greedy and embezzle (public)
funds.

The similarity began at the time of visits by Bush the
father (former US president George Bush) to the region.

At a time when some of our kinfolk were impressed by America
and hoped that these visits would impact on our countries,
it turned out that he was the one affected by these
monarchies and military regimes, envying them for keeping
their posts tens of years, embezzling public funds without
being held accountable or monitored.
He transferred tyranny and repression of freedoms to his
son and they called it a national law (US Patriot Act,
introduced) under the pretext of combating terrorism.

Bush's father thought it was a good thing to put his sons to
govern states. And he did not forget to transfer (election-)
forging skills from the presidents of the region to Florida
to use them in critical times.

We had agreed with (suicide hijacker) Mohammad Atta, God
rest his soul, that he finishes all operations in 20 minutes
before Bush and his administration take notice.

It never occurred to us that the commander-in-chief of the
US armed forces would leave 50,000 of his citizens in the
two towers to face these horrors alone at a time when they
were most in need of him.

He reckoned that it was more important to preoccupy himself
with the talk of the little girl about her goat ... than
with the planes and their strike on the skyscrapers, giving
us three times the time required to carry out the
operations,


 

offline OK on 2004-10-30 18:42 [#01376988]
Points: 4791 Status: Lurker



to carry out the operations, thanks be to God.

Your security is not in the hands of (Democratic
presidential candidate John) Kerry, Bush or Al-Qaeda. Your
security is in your own hands. Any (presidential) mandate
which does not play havoc with our security would
automatically ensure its own security."

Osama bin Laden. in video aired this friday


 

offline OK on 2004-10-30 18:45 [#01376989]
Points: 4791 Status: Lurker



that translation is awuful i read a better one in the paper
today


 

offline revpersona from Plainfield (United States) on 2004-10-30 19:14 [#01377002]
Points: 3167 Status: Lurker



*sigh* none of you read what I said clearly. Of course a
video was released the other day, but evidently you didn't
notice how I think that Al-Queda is using a "poser" or
"posers" for Bin Laden.

Here's some various footage pics of Bin Laden. I don't
think you need me to tell you that there's some
discrepencies. It would make perfect since for Al-Queda to
use Bin Laden look alikes if he was to pass away. He's
their idol and his face is a worldwide association with
terror. Believe what you want, but I wouldn't be surprised
if he did die.


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2004-10-30 19:25 [#01377004]
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im looking but i dont see obvious discrepancies


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2004-10-30 19:52 [#01377026]
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Are you blind? B has a microphone and E is just a shadow.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-30 20:09 [#01377036]
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in one of those pictures he all of a sudden has a beard!


 

offline OK on 2004-10-30 20:11 [#01377037]
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it looks like the exact same guy.......

OH MY GOD YOU'RE RIGHT!!! THEY CLONED BIN LADEN!

idiot


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-30 20:12 [#01377039]
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a-HA!

so YOU are TOOLMASTER!!


 

offline OK on 2004-10-30 20:14 [#01377040]
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even the beard has exactly the same color pattern..


 

offline OK on 2004-10-30 20:14 [#01377042]
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No. but I had to do the toolmaster thing


 

offline revpersona from Plainfield (United States) on 2004-10-30 22:08 [#01377057]
Points: 3167 Status: Lurker



So...the beard has the same color pattern...whoop-dee-doo.
They could have grabbed any old random guy and have him pose
to be Bin Laden. A and C look really close together, but the
other 2 are off. You don't see the physical condition
difference between A and B? I dunno about you guys, but
being out in the desert and being ill for quite sometime
doesn't allow you to act perfectly fine in "new" footage.
I'm not saying my "theory" is fact, but Al-Queda will use
the image of Bin Laden as long as they can regardless if
he's around or not.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-30 22:24 [#01377060]
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I'm sorry, your "proof" isn't very convincing.


 

offline boobah from pants on 2004-10-30 23:51 [#01377071]
Points: 613 Status: Lurker



Burn the satan child.


 

offline OK on 2004-10-31 00:12 [#01377102]
Points: 4791 Status: Lurker



MY GOD YOU'RE SO STOOPID. A AND C LOOK ALIKE BECAUSE HE'S
MAKING THE SAME MARTYR FACE IN BOTH PICTURES. AND IN THE
REST HE ISN'T.

and your theory is obvious since Osama is the only visual we
identify with al-qaeda, he's the 'philosofical' (besides
operational) leader. and also the founder. or course his
image will be used later.
and obviously he isn't dead cus there's been al-qaeda
attacks. that means they are alive and well organized. and
us in afganistan didn't really do any little bit of harm to
them.

everytime a tape or a video of him surfaces it goes trough
an authentification tests. and all came being positive.

geez. get a clue


 

offline revpersona from Plainfield (United States) on 2004-10-31 12:33 [#01377353]
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How do you explain him being ill, but then all the sudden
he's perfectly fine in this "new" video. Also, like you
said Al-Queda is still attacking because they're still well
organized. Bin Laden doesn't have to be alive for them to
be organized, that's crap. Al-Queda and their network are
across the globe, it would take a LOT more than just Bin
Ladan to make them un-organized. Maybe back in the day when
he turned on the U.S. and even up to 9/11 he was the
operational figure, but I believe he's much more
philisophical now. As for the faces, of course he's making
the same face, but regardless of the face he's making you
can tell there's signs of deteriation like he doesn't look
as healthy or he even looks older. That was my take from
it.


 

offline gnocelot from Greifswald (Germany) on 2004-10-31 12:42 [#01377359]
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How do you explain him being ill, but then all the
sudden
he's perfectly fine in this "new" video.


He got better.

The rest of your post makes sense, but I can't think of any
very good reasons to assume it's a double. Not that I'm
saying they necessarily wouldn't use one if he did die, I
just don't think he did.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2004-10-31 12:43 [#01377361]
Points: 12102 Status: Regular | Followup to revpersona: #01377353



The Arabic-language news network Al-Jazeera broadcast
Wednesday what it said was a new tape of Osama bin Laden and
his top deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri encouraging new attacks
against Americans.

Ayman al-Zawahiri is a doctor and a surgeon, he trained in
Cairo. That's why Osama looks all cuddley and lovely at the
moment.


 

offline xian_ecci from los angeles on 2004-10-31 13:24 [#01377369]
Points: 251 Status: Regular | Followup to OK: #01376986



so nice to come back to the board after months away to get a
fat chunk of US slander.

while we all appreciate your interest in considering the
historical perspective of the current situation, it's very
single-minded. certainly the US is to blame, but not in of
itself. this issue is borderless, having to do with the
misuse of power and distrust of the other. what period of
history should lead us otherwise?
By your cited year of 1982, the milion-faceted gears of
conflict had been in motion for decades. just 3 years
previous was the iranian kidnapping of US workers. 1972 was
the palestinian kidnapping of israeli athletes at the munich
olympics. of course, both in-part to make a statement about
western policy in the middle east. but the united states
was merely picking up the pieces of a failed european
colonialism, and the aftermath of WW2.
the US has intervened to aid uprisings and even spark coups
(such as iran in 1953), and this in most cases stengethened
our position in the strongarming of already chaotic
circumstances.
The governments of Brittain, Spain, Portugal, and the
Netherlands all had their hand in dividing and conquering
areas they felt were up for contention in the 19th and
early- 20th centuries. The power grap goes back in
decreasing scales from then, within virtually every
arbitrarty borderline on our color-coded world map,
including factions and families within the majority of the
arab nations.

I will not make a case for American politics as having
proper vision, and certainly have issues with recent
decision-making, but lets not make out that it alone has
given birth to evil and fear. I could easily argue that
this hatred of the states is not based primarily on the last
four years, but has inevitably evolved alongside the US rise
as sole 'superpower' (see Randy Newman's 'Political
Science', 1972).
And because of this ironic hatred, the balance will
eventually change. but the situation of protectionism-into
aggression will not. (see Xammax, #01376765)
Big F.U. to Xam


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2004-10-31 13:31 [#01377370]
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I got the joke about the quote from Alan Partridge.


 

offline xian_ecci from los angeles on 2004-10-31 13:43 [#01377372]
Points: 251 Status: Regular | Followup to dog_belch: #01377370



which was it?


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-10-31 14:44 [#01377379]
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Good.


 


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