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nacmat from Spain on 2002-01-27 19:10 [#00075362]

2001 gave us this 3 new releases made by 3 of our best
names.
but i dont know about go plastic (which i have listened and
loved it) but the other two, have been largely criticised by
many and loved for others... isnt this a bit curious?
what do you think of confield and drukqs? have they meant a
step backwards in these artists´ careers?
i personally like the 3 of them and i find them not a step
backwards at all.

Xanatos from NYC on 2002-01-27 19:24 [#00075363]

I love drukqs but it is a step backwards from RDJ Album or
ICBYD or Come To Daddy.
I didn't really get into Squarepusher until I heard go
Plastic but I like the style of Big Loada 100x more.
Confield I haven't really listened to, I'm not a big Ae fan
yet...

The_Funkmaster from Newfoundland, Canada on 2002-01-27 19:39 [#00075367]

I haven't heard Confield or Go Plastic, but I have heard
Drukqs, and I wouldn't consider it a backward step... as far
as I'm concerned, it is a lot different from anything I've
heard from him, but it's just not my favorite...

grinningcat on 2002-01-27 19:48 [#00075371]

'go plastic' was the first warp album i bought the week it
came out... i heard it in the shop, and the 1st 3
tracks+iwuct sounded so different and wicked. but i reckon
it does contain filler.

'drukqs' i can never make my mind up on, one day i think its
genius, the next day i think its a step back. at the moment
i think its really good.

i own no autechre yet, (spent all my money on catching up
with aphex albums!!) but it sounds ok from bits ive heard. i
think im gonna get LP5 first though.

why dont autechre think this is their best, wen 90% of thier
fans do?

titsworth_courier from washington, dc on 2002-01-27 20:06 [#00075376]

3 good to great releases. don't forget plaid's best album
yet, 2001's double figure. in retrospect i agree that go
plastic has some filler and could've been a better record
had tom put more effort into some of the tracks like he did
later with "untitled".

shameful anonymous on 2002-01-27 20:55 [#00075383]

I haven't heard much of Go Plastic yet, but I like both
Confield and drukqs a great.

Confield is a difficult album to listen to, but once I sat
down with some good headphones and really took the time to
listen I found it amazing, and not at all a step back.

drukqs is, IMO, one Richard's best albums. Granted, anyone
can tell that he put little effort into ordering the tracks,
but little effort from AFX is still better than 90% of
everybody else, and the tracks themselves are some of his
best.

B3n from Falkland Islands on 2002-01-27 20:58 [#00075386]

Drukqs is a very good album, and the order the tracks are
put together is quite interesting, its an album that I could
use to take me to many different levels of emotion.

|REFLEX| from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada on 2002-01-27 22:20 [#00075408]

ITS ALL OPINIONS, ALL OF IT.

But in my opinion, Confield was OK, about a 5 outta 10. Go
Plastic was about a 3/10 and Drukqs was MAYBE a 3/10.

kryocera3 from Dallas,Texas (Plano) on 2002-01-28 00:32 [#00075437]

drukQs is the best electronic music currently in existence,
no question.

Nothing comes close to such mastery. Nothing is more
complex.

Believe me. If there is something better I havent heard it.
And I doubt anything is.

And if you don't agree, listen to it carefully, dig as deep
as you can, and you will always discover more.

umbriel from quebec...the old on 2002-01-28 00:39 [#00075439]

go plastic isnt a step back. its the natural evolution. tom
went plastic with his sound. thats how i get it.
i havent heard confield yet. i am not a big autechre lover
and drukqs is one of my all time favourite records. i really
believe it is his best so far. its really a sensitive
record, filled with dreams and atmospheres and textures and
stories and screams and laughter. it sinks slowly into you,
like water thru soil. none of the other records have this
really emotional feel to it. its delicately violent.

|REFLEX| from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada on 2002-01-28 00:46 [#00075441]

kryocera3: but that is just your opinion, obviously it is
not fact or else everyone would agree. which not everyone
does. it is complex but that is no reason for someone to
like it. thats a non issue, I just dont like it.

jeff on 2002-01-28 00:51 [#00075444]

Richards other releases have all the emotions in a purer
form. Drukqs has all the mistakes, loud reverb, clicks etc
edited out. For me Richard is missing from this release.
He's never been the best at doing 'studio quality' music.
It's fun and emotion that he's good at. Drukqs is baron of
immediate decision, every loop, hit is eq'd to death. He's
turned into a studio nerd!

|REFLEX| from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada on 2002-01-28 00:53 [#00075445]

Thats almost my exact look on it too. Ofcourse again thats
our opinion and thats why we think it lacks, where as
someone may think it gains there.

I just dont enjoy listening to Drukqs much at all. I enjoy
the old stuff much much more. I dont like the way he went
with the Drill N' Bass outlook. Id MUCH rather listen to
Caustic Window or AB3.

Korben Dallas from nz on 2002-01-28 01:27 [#00075456]

go plastic - wicked album, step forward [maybe not his best,
but that doesn't detract from it being a wicked album].
manic/schizoid etc.

drukqs - v. nice. some cracker tunes on there - with a lot
of added depth, in aphex terms [i take it the likes of otto
von schirach etc. are considerably more detailed]. a very
good release, but perhaps just not quite excellent?!

confield - great album, a definite step forward in terms of
technique/style etc., perhaps not quite as polished off as
some other releases, although imho that doesn't count
against it. maybe not their best release, but definetly NOT
a black sheep or something :)

conacure from Alaska on 2002-01-28 01:59 [#00075468]

(Entirely opinion) I'd say all were a step forward. Tom
mainly got more complex on go plastic, but sometimes
explosively and over the edge. RDJ demonstrates more
complexity and emotion with drukqs, yet I perhaps haven't
devoted enough listening to it, but I would say the piano
tracks are emotionally the most prominent. Sean & Rob
continued to drastically develop their sound in every new
LP, and Confield definitely shows. I'm an Ae fan, and it's
by far my most frequently listened-to CD, but it was a
little difficult to accept at first. It has a high degree of
complexity but is well balanced.

Intruder from chicago on 2002-01-28 02:39 [#00075493]

I wasnt that happy with any of them.

I think Confield was shit. so, i just dont listen to it.

Go plastic was also a bit uninspired. so i just bought the
single for red hot car.

Druqks is actually pretty good. although, i wish it would
have been an EP instead. that way the REAL album couldve
been released later on , and we would all love it.

Theres always hope for BOC...

Ophecks from Nova Scotia on 2002-01-28 03:01 [#00075514]

Confield, I thought was nearly IMPOSSIBLE, but I'm getting
into it. ONly problem is, and I find it's like this with ALL
Autechre, is the tracks don't do enough to hold my
atttention, I tend to skip ahead when I've heard what I
wanted to hear.

Go Plastic, well, Tom can do no wrong!

And Drukqs is my fave electronic album ever, though is FULL
of flaws. It's like the Beatles White Album, in that
respect.

LeMoN on 2002-01-28 03:28 [#00075532]

Go Plastic - It was an okay album, nothing that amazing, I
dont listen to it often.

Drukqs - Better then Go Plastic, still nothing too special.
I enjoy it quite a bit.

Confield - genius...genius...

f.l.e.a from carpet on 2002-01-28 11:24 [#00075616]

Go Plastic...It blew me away..I think SP's Jazz Fusion
workouts(though I love em a lot) were getting a bit
stale..but here he uses the whole fucking studio as an
instrument...the tones are very alien strange and
haunted...half the time you can't tell whats, what and
glitches and clicks are used as intruments..nobody can hear
"Plaistow Flexout" and say it' not a huge leap forward

Confield..Once again I was thoroughly impressed..by the
sheer unpredictably of it..earlier Autechre tends to be a
tad repetetive for my taste..EP7 onwards, the misteps, the
erratic, unpredicatability..I care for a lot more..was still
a work in progress until Confield...almost perfect
preprogrammed Chaos

Drukqs...I admit it's not a giant step forward but it's
extremely pleasant nonethless...actually there's a lot of
innovation and progress going on but rather than being in
your face on ICBYD or Come to Daddy or ever RDJA, it's been
woven in to the layers, almost on a sublim level, hear the
songs a few time and pow..all these layers start opening
up...Before I bought it I was having a hard time beleiving
that it will grow on me....but grow it most certainly did,
more so than any of his recent work

canerfold from minneappleseed on 2002-01-28 17:34 [#00075693]

Drukqs most complex release ever? I think Confield is more
complex. Not the complexity determines the quality. I'm
happy with all three. Whether or not Drukqs is a step
forward I dunno. I like it enough.

canerfold from minneappleseed on 2002-01-28 17:34 [#00075694]

Ophecks from Nova Scotia on 2002-01-28 17:40 [#00075695]

Flea's synopsis of Drukqs is perfect, I agree totally.

kryocera3 from Dallas,Texas (Plano) on 2002-01-30 01:16 [#00076168]

well, all in all, -->in my opinion<--, I still believe that
Richard's overall ability is superior.
And not just cuz he's my fav artist, but through close
examinination of the music of all electronic artists that I
have exprienced.

And there are definitly particular artists that produce
certain musical styles better than aphex, but none that
exhibit quite his level.

Quoth from Lincoln on 2002-01-30 02:11 [#00076182]

I think it might just be me on this one... but I believe
that Selected Ambient Works Vol II was electronic music's
most complex album to this date. *Shoot my wall down. I have
not a clue what I am saying... SAWII sounds REALLY REALLY
REALLY FUCKING COMPLEX*

titsworth_courier from washington, dc on 2002-01-30 02:13 [#00076185]

it is. (tries to remember link exactly)

i got an A for this, maybe you already read it..

http://howisya.tripod.com/saw2vsreich.html

The_Funkmaster from Newfoundland, Canada on 2002-01-30 02:15 [#00076186]

I don't know if I'd say that, but it's definately not easy
stuff... my sister would listen to that and say "That's so
easy" just cause it sounds "minimal"... but no, you have to
decide what to include, and what not to include... and have
you pay close attention to what is included, cause it's left
out in the open... sure, it was definately not easy to
make...

The_Funkmaster from Newfoundland, Canada on 2002-01-30 02:16 [#00076187]

that's supposed to be "And you have to pay close..."

AMinal from toronto, canada on 2002-01-30 02:16 [#00076188]

yes true funks-a-lot

umbriel from quebec...the old on 2002-01-30 05:41 [#00076230]

titsworth : did you really write that?

titsworth_courier from washington, dc on 2002-01-30 05:43 [#00076231]

yea, you think i'd lie? that's my site, take a look. anyway,
i guess you're trying to say it was well done.

Bogus on 2002-01-30 06:20 [#00076238]

go plastic has olny about 2 or 3 worthy tracks... the rest
are garbage. sp previous work was so much better.

drukqs is a great collection of great tracks (some are the
best stuff he's made), but as an album it sucks, you should
only use the tracks in drukqs to make mixed CD/tapes.

confield.- this is a complete waste of a cd.. there's like
only 1 track here that isn't complete pretentious garbage.
and the track that isn't is that amazing anyway.

Bogus on 2002-01-30 06:31 [#00076240]

wanted to comment also that i don't think go plastic is a
step backwards since its obviously the opposite.. but still
if i had to give it a musical value it would be lower that
the value of feed me weird things, big loada or even hard
normal daddy.

Taxi on 2002-01-30 10:33 [#00076342]

Funkmaster, you always seem to bring up your sisters
oppinion, but all she seems to like is booty mix. Seems most
of that stuff is pretty simple in comparison. She will never
understand your taste, and vice versa.

Can you tell her she is a shmuck for me?

laughable butane robby on 2002-01-30 13:55 [#00076365]

what about Musipal by Wagon Christ aka. mr Luke Vibert?!?!?
very well produced in his Vibert style, the only complaint
is that he is repeating himself a bit, but Luke is definate
one of the top shelf RDJ posse.

Go PLastic... i'm surprised that it doesnt get bashed more
even though i'm certainly not gonna bash it, Tom J. is a
master producer, but hardly makes any compromises for his
listeners, except maybe to make fun of them. Go Plastic is
so dense, so attention deficet disorderly, it is hard to get
a grasp on all of it, without spilling. and the singles add
more fun.

Confield is dark. i'm surprised that people don't like it
more considering how lots of people like dark industrial
stuff. EP7 is even a more challenging listen, i think, but
i love how Autechre is experimenting, taking stuff in
logical but new directions with both aling with Peel 2. i
think that people assume if it sounds really complex but
they don't get it, it must be the result of genius, but if
it sounds simplier like some of Confield's generative type
stuff, it must be shit.

Drukqs... well, i can't decide if it is too long or too
short, RDJ could have had a more solid single CD, or could
have at least filled up both CDs like he did with SAW2. it
seems, once again, that people assume that if it is really
complex it must be genius, if simpler bad. i still find
some of the complex beat tracks to be some of RDJ's more
emotionally sterile work, but i keep trying. i suppose he
could have left off a few of the percussion experiments
(piano is a percussion instrament, despite what they teach
nowadays), or conversly added 10 more to the mix.

the_funkmaster from Newfoundland, Canada on 2002-01-30 15:16 [#00076390]

I talk about my sisters opinion because she hates the music,
and she doesn't listen to it, so I show her opinion compared
to the actuality of it... like what I said about SAWII...
she think it's stupid, and easy to make, when in fact it's
just the opposite... but yeah, she's a poopy head!!!

umbriel from quebec...the old on 2002-02-01 15:58 [#00077453]

laughable : piano is a percussion instrument, despite what
they teach nowadays? i may understand where you are coming
from if you also admit that every other acoustic instrument
(except the winds) is a percussion instrument too. if not, i
think i would like you to explain what you mean by the
statement. piano is my life.

laughable butane robby on 2002-02-01 16:40 [#00077489]

well, Richard obviously has always had an interest in
messing around with percussion noises, so the piano
logically fits the pattern, it is not really unexpected that
he would at all that he would play with the piano. nothing
really more meant.

Ironlung from inside the cabinet marked: X-Files on 2002-02-01 17:24 [#00077602]

Confield is nothing but an abstract, mesmorizing work of art
compared to the other two...IMO

Ironlung from inside the cabinet marked: X-Files on 2002-02-01 17:25 [#00077603]

Which makes it the best of all 3 by far......=)

titsworth_courier from washington, dc on 2002-02-01 20:07 [#00077653]

umbriel: listen to "Music for 18 Musicians" by Steve Reich
for a good example of what you can do with piano to make it
a purely mallet instrument.

f.l.e.a from doesanyonecaresville on 2002-02-02 09:02 [#00077861]

or try some John Cage

titsworth_courier from washington, dc on 2002-02-02 09:27 [#00077862]

FATALITY

od from pleth on 2002-02-02 10:38 [#00077865]

confield - havent heard it

go plastic - burned it. i liek it a lot, but not really
musical enough for me. (YES i know there are baslsines and
shit in there)

drukQs - dont even listen to this anymore. and i thought i
liked drill music :P

jayphex from Ottawa (Canada) on 2002-02-03 03:04 [#00078049]
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In response to jeff and REFLEX's opinions of drukqs being
eq'ed to death. What the hell?? I absolutely love that
sound and the two remixes he did for the drukqs promo were
even more screwed up than the original's and in my opinion,
better. I hope aphex stays with this totally non-repetitive
style of music!

nacmat on 2002-02-03 03:19 [#00078061]
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jupiter on 2002-02-03 03:46 [#00078080]
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lol

aron from saskatoon (Canada) on 2002-02-03 04:00 [#00078087]
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confield - haven't heard it either. i don't really like much
autchre except LP5 and sometimes ep7.

go plastic - i love this fucking album! it took a little
while to get into, but now i love it so much!!!

drukqs - meh, there's some wicked wicked tracks, but the
majority is just filler material. still not bad though.

Cheap Magnet from Australia on 2002-02-03 04:06 [#00078094]
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Go Plastic is my fav electronic album of all time...The
Exploding Psychology never ceases to amaze...

Drukqs is a mixed bag of brilliance (not due to complexity),
and some lesser tracks (in my opinion)

I don't think any album as flowed and seemed like a more
complete package then Go Plastic tho, it really is amazing..

aron from saskatoon (Canada) on 2002-02-03 04:10 [#00078098]
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oh man,
the exploding psychology kicks fucking ass!
i love it when it really gets going at like 3:43.

nacmat on 2002-02-03 04:12 [#00078103]
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confiled: masterpiece, future soundtrack
go plastic: not as big as some of its predecesors
drukqs: love it

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