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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-10-22 13:25 [#01369166]
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interesting....
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theo himself
from +- on 2004-10-22 13:28 [#01369177]
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no! ..really?
check this too
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-22 13:33 [#01369185]
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..yes.. that's about the same report.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-22 13:39 [#01369194]
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wow. that's pretty scary.
"Nonetheless, 56 percent of Bush supporters are under the impression that the expert consensus is exactly the opposite – that Iraq had actual WMD. Another 57 percent think that the Duelfer Report itself concluded that Iraq either had WMD (19 percent) or a major WMD program (38 percent)."
..and..
"Remarkably, when asked whether the U.S. should have gone to war without evidence of a WMD program or support to al Qaeda, 58 percent of Bush supporters said no. Moreover, 61 percent said they assumed that Bush would also not have gone to war under those circumstances.
"To support the president and to accept that he took the U.S. to war based on mistaken assumptions likely creates substantial cognitive dissonance and leads Bush supporters to suppress awareness of unsettling information about pre-war Iraq," Kull says."
Alex/deepspace9mm, take it away:
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-10-22 13:57 [#01369200]
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Please, please understand, even though I'm an American, I'm an intelligent, informed person.
I'm not with them...I'm with you guys...!!
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godataloss
from Cleveland (United States) on 2004-10-22 14:05 [#01369212]
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The Canadians haven't given up their WMD's yet either. You're next you hosers!
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-10-22 14:05 [#01369214]
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2004-10-22 14:07 [#01369217]
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Will you percesute me too cause I live in America or am I 'one of the good ones'?
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-10-22 14:07 [#01369218]
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I love I'm With Stupid t-shirrts. i think they've gone rright past the 'oh, verry funny' stage into actaully funny.
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-10-22 14:09 [#01369222]
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i think i'll buy one when i'm in town and wearr it to a meal.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-10-22 14:10 [#01369225]
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who's persecuting? i'm american, and happy to be, although not necessarily proud.
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-10-22 14:11 [#01369226]
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W H O A.
That really is quite frightening.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-22 14:13 [#01369233]
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don't victimise yourself, man!
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theo himself
from +- on 2004-10-22 14:15 [#01369238]
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"american" has become a bad word. it's like a disgusting, loose sagging dry pussy that has been done to death.. ugh. it's repulsive now.. and people are still fucking w/ it
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-10-22 14:15 [#01369239]
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i like amerricans as a generral rrule. why the hell not.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-10-22 14:16 [#01369240]
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i made that with MS Paint and a bit of copying and pasting. maybe i should mass produce them...
!!
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-10-22 14:20 [#01369246]
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hey! toymachine makes one.. kinda!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-22 14:20 [#01369249]
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I like most of the Americans on this board.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-10-22 14:23 [#01369261]
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c'mon, but its cool to hate americans. latest fad, everybody's doing it, including americans.
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godataloss
from Cleveland (United States) on 2004-10-22 14:24 [#01369264]
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Careful or we'll bomb your ass!
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-10-22 14:28 [#01369266]
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Bush supporters just think the rest of the world is jealous of us.
Jealous of our schools, mass transit, drug policy, beef industry, etc..
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theo himself
from +- on 2004-10-22 14:59 [#01369303]
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it's justified to hate/dislike/be really fucking annoyed with americans who think that simply being american actually MEANS somethign.
gov. james mcgreevy "I am a gay american." ie. not just a fag. dont' attack me while I'm wrapped in the flag.
after american troops were filmed and photgraphed doing what they did in the abu grahib prison.. an army rep. said "that's not what american's do" or that is "unamerican".. bullshit.. humans can do it.. just because they're american doesn't mean they're any more moral or 'decent' . and american's DO do those things because.. they're american soldiers and they DID
so fuck u if you think america is special . it's not. it's adolescent , still on about jesus, and stupidly hegemonious and it thinks everyone that lives here is the same way.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-10-22 15:00 [#01369305]
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I have trouble comprehending the logic or even the sheer ethics of Bush supporters.
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nacmat
on 2004-10-22 15:03 [#01369313]
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bush bush bush bush bush bush bush bush bush bush bush bush bush bush bush bush bush bush bush bush bush bush bush bush
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-10-22 15:10 [#01369318]
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People are people are people. Total Cunts, i don't like, Good Dudes, i do. "American" doesn't mean a fuggin' thing.
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Rostasky
from United States on 2004-10-22 15:12 [#01369319]
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Profoundidity!
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Atli
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-10-22 15:20 [#01369324]
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why the hell is the word "american" used for a citizen of the USA. why the hell isn't the word used for a canadian or a mexican too?
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Atli
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-10-22 15:21 [#01369325]
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i meant so say, why is it always just used for people from USA. a mexican lives in america, therefore he must be an american, one would think.
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Rostasky
from United States on 2004-10-22 15:22 [#01369326]
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Mexico is too cool to associate themselves with us.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-10-22 15:30 [#01369333]
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you were raped by an american flag when you were younger weren't you?
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nacmat
on 2004-10-22 16:56 [#01369425]
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usa is a nice place when they dont bomb us
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-10-22 17:00 [#01369427]
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whens the last time we bombed spain?
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nacmat
on 2004-10-22 17:02 [#01369431]
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us = the rest of the world
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nacmat
on 2004-10-22 17:02 [#01369432]
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sorry I didnt make myself clear
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-10-22 17:15 [#01369436]
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ah yes, U.S. vs Them.
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nacmat
on 2004-10-22 17:23 [#01369442]
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as long as they got the money
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-22 18:28 [#01369472]
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STOP BOMBING US!!
..right after you start.
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big
from lsg on 2004-10-22 20:27 [#01369508]
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i love americans, they're so stupid
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-10-22 20:39 [#01369512]
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i love europeans, they're such holier than thou fuckwits.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-10-22 21:23 [#01369528]
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I hear there's rumours on the, uh, 'internets'.
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gnocelot
from Greifswald (Germany) on 2004-10-22 22:18 [#01369535]
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To be fair, what they meant is that that sort of thing doesn't fit their ideals of what America should be like... blah blah blah beacon of democracy and freedom and hope and puppies.
Not that this makes it any less annoying that that disconcertingly widespread sort of person seems to believe these are exclusively/originally/whateverly American concepts; or that in their eyes, saying "oh no!" and vaguely punishing some of those at the very bottom of the ladder in these cases seems to be enough, and that there seems to be so little interest in the evidence that these guards didn't just do all that simply because they were bored, or, whether they did or not, in finding out what about the atmosphere there and/or in the army in general drove them to it.
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mimi
on 2004-10-23 01:15 [#01369558]
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well because it's not Canada of America, or Mexico of America, but it's the United States of America
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