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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-10-21 10:14 [#01368084]
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im starting nicorete tonight. if any of you chew the gum, let me know what you know about it.
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2004-10-21 10:34 [#01368100]
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well, good luck.
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2004-10-21 10:39 [#01368104]
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fuck the nicorette, you're just substituting the one for the other. just quit.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-10-21 10:42 [#01368105]
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substituting yes. but ive made constant failed attempts. to be frank, i NEED nicotine in my diet either way you look at it. So its nicotine /or nicotine with over 150 deadly chemicals. what would you pick?
in other words, shutup
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2004-10-21 10:53 [#01368109]
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haha - fair enough :)
you don't need it...i speak from personal experience but what ever you want
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-10-21 10:55 [#01368111]
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well my aunts been chewing the gum for 4 years now, so yeah it does drain the money, at least its a bit cheaper :)
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nacmat
on 2004-10-21 10:58 [#01368116]
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its easy to quit if you want
the problem is that you dont want
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corrupted-girl
on 2004-10-21 11:31 [#01368146]
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eep!
have fun!
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-10-21 11:44 [#01368162]
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2 of my friends used that zyban stop-smoking pill to great effect.
i think it's zyban.. well it worked for my friends.
whatever it's called!
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2004-10-21 11:46 [#01368171]
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Why a final attempt? The chance of making it increases for each time, you know
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zkreso
from Kr.sand (Norway) on 2004-10-21 11:46 [#01368172]
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Why did you start smoking anyway?
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-10-21 11:49 [#01368175]
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He wanted lung cancer to be cool.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-21 11:51 [#01368179]
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good luck.
i've chewed the gum a few times... aside from the fact that it tastes like ass, and gets hard really quick, i couldn't tell that it had any nicotene in it. i'd save my money and stock up on extra sugarfree if i were you.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-21 11:53 [#01368183]
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I thought you were all in favour of things that get hard really quickly.
HA HA HA HA HAAAAA!!!
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-10-21 11:53 [#01368184]
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I just switched to smoking crack and my urge to smoke cigarettes just disappeared.
Good Luck.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-21 11:55 [#01368189]
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my wang tastes like ass and gets hard really quick.
p.s. not really. i'm not into anal........ because i'm impotent.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-10-21 13:16 [#01368280]
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i've made several attempts to start smoking but none of them has stuck. i usually buy a pack, smoke 'em all up, but then i'm just too lazy or poor to buy more.
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-10-21 13:57 [#01368306]
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Nicorette sucks in my experience with it. I tried it twice (two packs of gum, that is). I've gone for 3 weeks on the patch and am kicking ass. Get the patch
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-10-21 14:07 [#01368310]
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haha. thats exactly what i did/do. i've since "quit" meaning i no longer even bother buying the occassional pack. smoking sucks.
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morguean
from Calgary (Canada) on 2004-10-21 14:15 [#01368312]
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diggidy check yoself
quit the ish
respect
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staplemouth
on 2004-10-21 15:23 [#01368368]
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people i know who have quit have become addicted to the gum for quite some time. People are saying that the patches work really well.
good luck.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-10-21 15:29 [#01368373]
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i stopped smoking few moths ago, was much easier than i thought, without any niccorete shit. free will.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2004-10-21 15:30 [#01368377]
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yeah i was hooked on the gum for 18 months. it does work :) im now totally quit
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ziggomatic
from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2004-10-22 11:17 [#01368967]
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hey Bry, it's been awhile,.... i just stopped very abruptly, i was too lazy to go the store anymore...
i don't need them at all.,..but hell if i see a friend with one, ill ask em and smoke one every now and then....
if you really need to have nicotine in your diet,,..well then heheh i don't know what to say,...have an operation where the protein inhibitors secrete it throughout your body,or something,...ehehe costly, but prolly cheaper than buying that crap gum or cigs themselves over time. :P
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2004-10-22 11:26 [#01368969]
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i had really easy time to quit smoking because in my country we have an substitute for ciggaretes called snuff, moist snuff.BUt is not legal in other countrys except the nordic countrys
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-22 11:29 [#01368971]
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by snuff do you mean, really really finely ground tobacco?
cause we definately have that
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2004-10-22 11:35 [#01368977]
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is it tobacco you place in the upper lips ? it looks like dirt and you squeeze it in to a round ball and place it in your upper lips and enyoy
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-22 11:56 [#01368994]
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oh you mean chewing tobacco?
which is actually even worse for you and can give you a nice localised lip- and/or mouthcancer?
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-22 11:57 [#01368997]
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yeah. it's really fine, almost like dust.
you can also snort it.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-22 12:04 [#01369013]
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what axion is talking about really sounds like chewing tobacco, not like snuff.
you can't chew on snuff, you just.. um.. snuff it.
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2004-10-22 12:10 [#01369023]
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no i am not talking about chewing tobacco it youst an thing you squeeze like an round ball and stuff in your upper lips and let it stay there and it let you suck in the niccotine
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-22 12:12 [#01369026]
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still the stuff that can give you lip- and/or mouthcancer.
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2004-10-22 12:12 [#01369027]
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official site almost i think
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-10-22 12:13 [#01369029]
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I, i never had problems with quitting. nowadays i just burn instead of smoke
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-22 12:14 [#01369031]
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rednecks around here stick it in their lower lips and spit that brown shit everywhere like rabid camels with a bad case of bronchytis.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-10-22 12:15 [#01369032]
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I, i never had problems with quitting. nowadays i just burn instead of smoke
LAZY_TITLEFOR CHRISSAKE
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2004-10-22 12:15 [#01369034]
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never heard about it can give you cancer in any way in swedish raports
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-22 12:15 [#01369035]
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ugh, that stuff is nasty. it fucks up your mouth royally - stinks up your breath, destroys your teeth plus the aforementioned cancer.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-10-22 12:16 [#01369036]
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yes it does!
tis pretty dangerous
like brushing your teeth with benzene
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-22 12:18 [#01369039]
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Smokeless Tobacco: Highly Addictive and No Safer Than Smo...
"Some people believe that using chewing tobacco or snuff is safer than smoking. There's no burning cigarette at your mouth or cloud of smoke--just a "dip" of finely-ground tobacco (snuff) placed between the gum and cheek or a "chew." In 1986, the U.S. Surgeon General concluded that the use of smokeless tobacco is not a safe substitute for smoking cigarettes or cigars, as these products can cause various cancers and noncancerous oral conditions, and can lead to nicotine addition. Some of these conditions are listed below.
Cancer of the mouth and pharynx
Leukoplakia (white sores in the mouth that can lead to cancer)
Gum recession, or peeling back of gums
Bone loss around the teeth
Abrasion of teeth
Bad breath
The most serious health effect of smokeless tobacco is an increased risk of cancer of the mouth and pharynx. Oral cancer occurs several times more frequently among snuff dippers compared with non-tobacco users. The risk of cancer of the cheek and gums may increase nearly 50-fold among long-term snuff users.
Leukoplakia is a white sore or patch in the mouth that can become cancerous. Studies have consistently found high rates of leukoplakia at the place in the mouth where users place the "chew." One study found that almost 3/4 of daily users of moist snuff, and chewing tobacco had non-cancerous or pre-cancerous lesions (sores) in the mouth. The longer you use smokeless tobacco, the more likely you are to have leukoplakia.
Studies have shown that about 7% to 27% of regular smokeless tobacco users have gum recession and bone loss around the teeth. The surface of the tooth root may be exposed where gums have drawn back. Tobacco can irritate or destroy the tissue."
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-22 12:19 [#01369040]
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(cont.)
"Smokeless tobacco may also play a role in cardiovascular disease and high blood pressure. Nicotine enters the users' bloodstream through the lining of the mouth and/or the gastrointestinal tract. Nicotine causes your heart to beat faster and your blood pressure to go up."
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2004-10-22 12:24 [#01369044]
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did you find this in the swedish link i posted ?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-22 12:27 [#01369048]
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call me crazy, but I would place my faith in the site of the American Cancer Society before the site of the company that produces the tobacco.
..wacky!!
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-10-22 12:31 [#01369051]
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lol
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2004-10-22 12:38 [#01369064]
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thats whats i mean i think it youst some smoking company who is behind this that want to stop some little swedish snuff to grow by spreading un true news for their own gain
I havent heard in one report in sweden that one single guy have died in cancer in sweden sense ever
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-10-22 13:14 [#01369131]
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are you for real?
am i getting this right, do you believe its a consperacy by major tobacco firms to brainwash us into 'snuff is cancerous?'
if so, you do not deserve to breathe
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2004-10-22 13:17 [#01369143]
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yes i think it can be possible that the big smoking companies can do so
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-10-22 13:21 [#01369151]
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chewing tobacco is disgusting, even more so than cigarettes.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-22 13:22 [#01369157]
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ha ha
yes.. that must be why the same American Cancer Society is saying even worse stuff about the effects of smoking cigarettes on the human body.. what a great way to promote your company..!
see here
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-22 13:24 [#01369160]
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"I havent heard in one report in sweden that one single guy have died in cancer in sweden sense ever"
mm.. and how much time have you actually spent trying to find this possibly existing information?
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