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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2004-10-19 04:05 [#01366473]
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I just read this on the merck site:
--Merck crew would like to remind our US fans to vote on November 2nd--
*We ask that you please DO NOT vote for george w bush. Besides taking over
the world, him and his corporate friends are actively hurting and impeding
record labels like Merck, and artists like the ones released on Merck.
what do they mean with it? in which way does George Bush hurt small record labels... sorry for the ignorance
I got this from an internet poll, Bush 47.5% and Kerry 47.3%
how come Bush still gets more votes?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-10-19 04:10 [#01366475]
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"what do they mean with it? in which way does George Bush hurt small record labels... sorry for the ignorance"
I don't think Bush himself does it, but his corporate friends probably do.. however, that would NOT be the main reason not to vote for Bush.. a good reason not to vote for him is that whoever is pulling his strings is crazy!
"how come Bush still gets more votes?"
daddy dearest got friends in high places.. plus he's probably still cheating.. and then there are those idiots that really believe that he'll do better this time around...
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2004-10-19 04:12 [#01366476]
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Conservative people does not support art/culture for the few I think
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2004-10-19 04:13 [#01366477]
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"addy dearest got friends in high places.."
I know, but this was from a small internet poll.. or are they everywhere...
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-10-19 04:18 [#01366479]
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well.. SOMEONE would have to vote in the poll, wouldn't they? it is, of course, possible that they just really BELIEVE he'll do good, but I do NOT see how ANYONE could think anything like that...
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2004-10-19 04:22 [#01366481]
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I hope I'm proved wrong but I think Bush will be in the White House again... I was going to say 'for another 4 years' but, quite possibly, we'll all be dead by then.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-10-19 04:23 [#01366483]
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in four years, all that's left in the world is Bush, his dog Bucky, and an "armadiller."
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mask
from the city of dresden (Germany) on 2004-10-19 04:39 [#01366486]
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and a bag of brezels, of course.
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Schika
from Heidelberg (Germany) on 2004-10-19 04:54 [#01366489]
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It doesn't matter who get's your vote - cause it's not Bush or Kerry who deside what will happen in the next years. They are only puppets for the public. Anyway will Bush win the election as the last time.
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uzim
on 2004-10-19 05:22 [#01366501]
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"how come Bush still gets more votes?"
> that's what i'm wondering too ' _' everywhere i go on non-american messageboards, every person i've talked to about the subject, almost everyone is for Kerry... i guess people frequenting messageboards, the ones i meet at the university etc. aren't representative of the general opinion anyway, they're mostly young people whereas industrialized countries have lots of old people.
i don't know Kerry's program well... i should get more information on this even if i'm not american, anyway a lot of people seem to be "anti-Bush" rather than "pro-Kerry"...
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-10-19 05:24 [#01366503]
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yeah, you can't really be pro-kerry either, but he's the lesser of two evils.
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uzim
on 2004-10-19 05:24 [#01366504]
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Bush could very well win even if everyone hates him; Chirac got re-elected in France as well, even if the great majority of the population were against him... (it wasn't for the same reasons though)
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-10-19 05:25 [#01366505]
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or.. of course you CAN be pro-kerry, but he's almost as big of an idiot as Bush is.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-10-19 05:26 [#01366507]
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yeah.. we also have to remember that Bush isn't elected by the people.. he's elected by congress.. however, I don't think congress can go against a large majority of the people or something...
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2004-10-19 05:29 [#01366510]
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yeah same here, all the americans I talked to hate Bush and here aswell...
if here is anyone that is pro Bush SPEAK NOW
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uzim
on 2004-10-19 05:31 [#01366511]
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i've seen some people here that were, actually...
(by the way, why not have an xltronic poll about this? what do you think, Woofer? we already had one about Irak war...)
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2004-10-19 05:34 [#01366512]
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great idea
it is up to \/\/
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-10-19 05:36 [#01366514]
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elusive and childrentalking would raise their hands, but they're fighting a war.. from their homes.
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Schika
from Heidelberg (Germany) on 2004-10-19 05:38 [#01366515]
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Hmmm, are here any americans in this topic or only europeans?
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pf
from Finland on 2004-10-19 05:48 [#01366517]
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I all so would like people to not to vote for bush.
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Schika
from Heidelberg (Germany) on 2004-10-19 05:51 [#01366519]
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yes vote instead YOURSELF
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-10-19 09:33 [#01366646]
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hmmm, I really hope you have better reasons for choosing who you're voting for then which one has a negative effect on record labels...
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-10-19 09:47 [#01366673]
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****Vote Michael Badnarik, Libertarian for President.****
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-10-19 09:57 [#01366706]
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If only the rest of the United States could be as anti-bush as this thread is....
*sigh*
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2004-10-20 02:49 [#01366744]
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I only wanted to know what the reason for Merck was to place something like this on their website
I picked this topic title to get some attention because there are only a few xltronicers who actually like the music that Merck release
I wish I could vote tho
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BaronVonPickleF
from United States on 2004-10-20 02:50 [#01366745]
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http://www.thetoiletonline.com/leaveit.htm
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-20 07:16 [#01366828]
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Drunken Mastah, keep in mind you, nor many people on this messag eboard actually live in the US. And if so, it's not many people out of 250+Million.
I know a shitload of people voting for Bush, and the same for Kerry. It's like...just because all you see is Bush hating on the internet, doesn't mean that everyone is voting for Kerry. There are plenty (shown in polls) of people who support the repubs and Bush. Just cause they aren't screaming around on the internet, doesn't mean they aren't there.
Hope you can see this point of view.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-20 07:17 [#01366829]
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"yeah.. we also have to remember that Bush isn't elected by
the people.. he's elected by congress.. however, I don't think congress can go against a large majority of the people
or something... "
So now are you trying to quiz ME on how MY COUNTRY runs?
Lol, man.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-20 07:34 [#01366845]
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Although...............................
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2004-10-20 08:12 [#01366919]
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what's the point of this voting? i don't know. is some election going right now in US?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-10-20 08:18 [#01366933]
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yes, I see the point of view, but I do not see the relevance... you just stated that there are lots of people voting for both bush and kerry... which is something we agree on.. however, I think anyone who votes for either is stupid, and that people don't realise that to change things, the republicans and the democrats have to lose their hold.. a two-party system doesn't work!
and.. I'm not quizzing YOU on how "your" country runs... I was replying to Uzim.. you had nothing to do with it.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-20 08:20 [#01366939]
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Ok, I agree with you for the most part on the 2party system. :)
They push out 3rd parties so bad .. grrr
But no, I was trying to reply to you, saying that how can the polls be like that ... how can so many ppl be voting for bush when all you hear is on tv and online is how everyone hates bush and they are voting for kerry.
I know, it's weird isn't it !
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-10-20 08:20 [#01366941]
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arrgh shit, how do i rretrract my vote?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-10-20 08:24 [#01366950]
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I'd call it stupidity... the thing is that people who vote for Kerry don't necessarily do it because they like him.. they do it because they hate bush.. and I'm glad you agree on the two-party system, because here it shows its power.. there ARE other parties after all, but the only REAL choices are the two main parties... if people voted for what they LIKED, the two-party system would be dissolved.. however, people don't think that voting for any other party helps because no-one else votes for them... and that's an evil circle.
now, the polls and tv-stuff about people voting for kerry is just because it's more "news" than voting for Bush... bush IS president.. he's already bEEN voted for, so he's not "news." Kerry is.. people who vote for Bush may be the majority, but they're not news!
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-20 08:26 [#01366964]
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Sure, I can agree with you on that.
Jon Stewart for President, soon tho.
Did you see him on Crossfire (CNN)?
Oh man, it was brilliant.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-10-20 08:31 [#01366976]
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no, unfortunately.. media worldwide is just about as bad as american media... we only get shitty "news" because of "the goldfish principle." (anything but the bowl is soon forgotten)
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-20 08:32 [#01366982]
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Then step up and make a change!
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-20 08:34 [#01366986]
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that'd be this.
stewart tears into them so awesomely.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-20 08:35 [#01366989]
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*holds finger over the big red 'W' button and watches the world squirm*
:)
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-20 08:36 [#01366991]
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LAZY_TITLE
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-10-20 08:36 [#01366993]
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Yeah, you don't see them on the internet because they are at home crocheting doilies.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-20 08:38 [#01366997]
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I just watched that yesternight.
that was good. man that guy on the right is a right cunt.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-20 08:38 [#01366999]
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well, christing hell! try this.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-10-20 08:39 [#01367001]
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WELCOME TO LAST WEEK.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-20 08:39 [#01367002]
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oh man, tucker carlson is the suckiest suck that ever sucked. he's like an even more smug mini version of oreilly.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-20 08:40 [#01367005]
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I'm gonna do it all diferently this time around.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-10-20 08:42 [#01367009]
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Dude, voting for either isn't stupid, its necessary. I hate the two party system as well, and I wanted Kucinich for pres, but guess what, Kerry is the best thing we have right now. And the lot of foriegners that are saying that kerry is just as bad as Bush needs to pull their head out of their ass and do some fucking research. They are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PEOPLE. So stop saying that nothing will change if Kerry is elected. Thats just ignorant.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-20 08:48 [#01367017]
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the internet really has to let go of that "ONLY THE NEWEST THING COUNTS". it's very unrealistic and quite unworkable.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-10-20 08:51 [#01367019]
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yeh yeah i'm just yanking your chain, pulling your leg, et cetera.
no, Kerry is not the best choice. Michael Badnarik is the best choice.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-10-20 08:52 [#01367021]
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they are NOT completely different.. even americans themselves see that the two parties are practically the same.. Kerry is JUST AS BAD AS BUSH, BUT HE PHRASES HIMSELF DIFFERENTLY (Bush: "we'll go to war on terror!" | Kerry: "america won't go to war because we WANT to! We'll go to war because we NEED to!" ..same meaning, only Kerry says it in a way that makes him more appealing, since he calls war necessary...)
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