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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-10-12 13:42 [#01361008]
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there are some that can, but usually they just stand there and observe. eventhough the artist is playing the most dancable music possible...wtf do they attend gigs at all...instead they could leave more space to people who want to get crazy to the music.
it's funny how techno/house fans always dance to that repetitive 4/4 rhythm (nothing wrong with it, but it's just not as dancable as drum n bass, gabber, speedcore...).
so um learn how to move!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-10-12 13:43 [#01361011]
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this goes for italians in the 1st place.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2004-10-12 13:44 [#01361012]
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hey i was shakin my mofuggin booty off when i went to see squarepusher, not to mention a little pseudo-moshing was going on during come on my selector. that kicked some arse.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-12 13:45 [#01361013]
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i think 95% of all dancing looks pretty silly.
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2004-10-12 13:45 [#01361014]
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its insecurity...
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-10-12 13:45 [#01361015]
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of course they can
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-10-12 13:46 [#01361017]
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it looks silly...but it looks way more silly if ppl just stand there. shake it!!
insecurity? get high.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-10-12 13:49 [#01361019]
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I don't dance but I know how you feel. If I knew what the fuck to do chances are I'd go nuts... but what the fuck should I care anyway, I've never been to a gig.
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2004-10-12 13:50 [#01361020]
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check out Elsewhere, he's an awesome dancer. http://www.detoursvideo.com/Elsewhere.htm
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-10-12 13:51 [#01361021]
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As much as it pains me to say it, live and let live etc, it really fucking annoys me when people don't dance at gigs. If you just want to listen and nod along, buy the record, not tickets to a concert. Leave the floor free for inebriated wazz-dancers like myself.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-10-12 13:52 [#01361022]
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haha that guy is splendid...that's what im talking about. always great to watch those nutters!!! :)
xammax...if you knew what to do? you just feel it and start moving...it's almost impossible to just stand still imo.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-10-12 13:53 [#01361023]
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my thoughts exactly. thank you :)
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-10-12 13:55 [#01361024]
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Well there's good and bad dancing... I wouldn't want to humiliate myself. How do you dance?
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2004-10-12 13:56 [#01361026]
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there are many people who can't dance, let them enjoy their silly moves. it's funnier to watch them, compared to Siscqó's Shakedown type people who do their stupid-ass Britney routine, and think they are like superdancers or something.
and since i have dropped dancing altogether, i'll be by the bar getting pissed and laughing a all the silly people
what's even more laughable; when a dj plays some breakbeat stuff, and moves on to a track with a standard 4/4 bassdrum, everybody cheers - what the hell, it's just a beat!
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2004-10-12 13:57 [#01361027]
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dancing is fun, bad dancing is standing in the corner
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-10-12 13:58 [#01361028]
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i don't dance really...i just close my eyes and start moving shaking jumping...if no one else is dancing i just need a smoke and i can start up alone if necessary.
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-10-12 13:58 [#01361029]
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Most people at IDM gigs are wankered anyway in my experience... nobody seems like they're judging anyone else's dancing. Just don't throw up on the decks and there won't a shred of humiliation in sight.
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2004-10-12 14:01 [#01361030]
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it's a funny moment when you overcome shyness and start moving. that letting-loose feeling is awsome
i'll do the c/pach dance now
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-10-12 14:03 [#01361031]
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hmm...italians stand still no matter what djs play...and its always great to see someone feeling the music properly and just seeing them get into the proper mood...if you can feel the music there's no way you can look bad at dancing. im going to see merzbow this sunday - i wonder if someone will move to that...ive seen russel haswell couple of years ago, and there was this guy totally feeling it and was dancing/moving real good...as hard as might be to dance to noise (almost no rhythm) there's always a way :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-10-12 14:05 [#01361034]
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that's kinda hard without getting drunk or high in my experience at least..it's a bit weird feeling if/when you look back and see people just standing there. ahh
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2004-10-12 14:06 [#01361036]
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merzbow sits there like a statue. not really entertaining that whole thing
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2004-10-12 14:07 [#01361038]
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yeah you mustn't be totally sober and a friend must be next to you.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-10-12 14:08 [#01361041]
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well, aphex is just standing there as well...it's all about the music..although merzbow could be a bit of a problem in that respect :)
anyway im most likely going to see ceephax in couple of days, that should be easier to move to...although i fell off the bike earlier today and my knee is starting to hurt real bad...it may happen that this time ill just stand there :)
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2004-10-12 14:10 [#01361043]
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haha. i remember when merzbow/russel haswell and aphex played in Norway last year, i saw a couple of people headnodding during the satanstornade section. i was like: hey where's the beat they're nodding to?!
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yann_g
from now on 2004-10-12 14:10 [#01361044]
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generally idm fans are introverted
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-12 14:10 [#01361045]
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i usually just go into a seizure because of the strobe lights... when i wake up everyone is like "dayam, phat moves shope!", and i stumble to the bathroom and puke.
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yann_g
from now on 2004-10-12 14:10 [#01361046]
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u can see me dancing in LFO's video millionaire dogs.
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stilaktive
from a place on 2004-10-12 14:23 [#01361052]
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static dance whoo
what about some prog house? people listen to that asleep, but still mangae to stand up!
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rogu rarebit
from beggin' for leggings on 2004-10-12 14:30 [#01361056]
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I dance whenever I get the chance to. And I always dance sober.
When I saw Autechre in London three years ago I danced my arse off, to Team Doyobi as well as Autechre. The night after that, we went to Nesh and danced our arses off to Prefuse 73, Phoenecia and Richard Devine. That was a good weekend.
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idle interloper
on 2004-10-12 14:49 [#01361069]
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I think the whole energy would be lifted if the actual musicians were moving or "playing" in some way, other than just their hands on buttons. Many people do not move in all types of music concerts...It seems like in addition to shyness it is also so they can give the music and musician's performance their complete attention. But with "idm" there isn't much, if any, entertaining musicianship, so I can see where dancing might be more appropriate and intregal, since you aren't missing much other than somone standing practically still, fiddling with knobs and buttons. But still, the music is usually more complex than the average "boogie-down" type of music. It usually requires more attention, and if the listeners are big fans they will usually want to notice the subtle differences between the regular album version that they know and love, and the live rendition.
That's an important part of the experience. If the songs were exactly the same as on the album, then they might as well play their cd and pretend to be "adjusting" things on the fly. If that's the case, then the only thing that is special about the occasion is all the drunk fans moving/dancing/standing in unison, and the fact that the musician is standing there as well.
I don't know where I was trying to go with this.
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yann_g
from now on 2004-10-12 14:53 [#01361071]
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nevermind :)
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ChildrenTalking
from United States on 2004-10-12 15:13 [#01361084]
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you made a good point. we have the better music and tend to not dance *nods head*
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2004-10-12 15:22 [#01361093]
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i only bring my body to a show because it's attached to my ears. i don't care about lights, or whether or not the performer wiggles around the stage. fog is always a plus, though. but i'd prefer a nice rocking chair for almost any show...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-10-12 15:52 [#01361106]
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there's difference between 'listening' and 'dancing' music...idm artists usually (from my experience) play dancing music...sometimes not, but im not bothered with ppl not dancing then. it only bothers me when they play music to shake to and everyone is standing still.
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yann_g
from now on 2004-10-12 16:17 [#01361118]
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how many robots would be unmasked? they have to pretend they're here to listen so nobody notices their graceless gesture.
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DiaZoHeXagoN
from The city of angels (United States) on 2004-10-12 16:21 [#01361119]
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I always dance at shows, but I hate dancing at clubs that play techno from vinyl or CDs for some reason. When I saw plaid everyone was dancing
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yann_g
from now on 2004-10-12 16:37 [#01361144]
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yeah they play more danceable versions of their albums tracks! great idea, people recognize the tune => happy + louder beats = DANCE!
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DiaZoHeXagoN
from The city of angels (United States) on 2004-10-12 16:39 [#01361146]
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THIS IS FUN! EVERYBODY DANCE! WAIT A SECOND...?
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Rostasky
from United States on 2004-10-12 16:41 [#01361151]
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Who cares who dances?
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yann_g
from now on 2004-10-12 16:47 [#01361157]
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the musicians?
seriously there is way too much "i don't dare dancing" in the fact that few people dance in idm shows.
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nacmat
on 2004-10-12 16:57 [#01361163]
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I can
and pretty good
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-10-12 16:57 [#01361164]
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it's a bit silly if you're djing and people just stare at you, yes.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-10-12 17:42 [#01361209]
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awesome thread...
I'm 100% Italian (american), IDM fan, and I dance it up hardcore! Pop'nlockin, liquid shit, hip hop nigga. I'll tear it up for hours if the beats dont stop.
I must be the only person on the planet that fits this criteria.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-10-12 17:45 [#01361211]
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hahaha...you're one and only.
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Thoughtcrime
from Edmonton (Canada) on 2004-10-12 17:48 [#01361215]
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What ever happened to that video of that kid dancing to an Autechre song? It was something off Tri-Rep I think, and he was pretty good.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2004-10-12 19:17 [#01361267]
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I always dance, and it seems like everyone else dances too at IDM gigs. I used to only dance to certain stuff but lately I just dance to anything as long as the mix is nice and there is a crowd going; the worst thing is when the DJ is fucking up the rhythm too much, it's a thin line. Even though I love dancing to drum & bass I can't stand it sometimes when they do fucking rewinds because it kills the atmosphere most of the time. That's the beauty of psytrance raves because you can dance for hours and not even notice the track has changed. If I've had a couple of beers or joints I can get into it quicker but it's not vital.
But anyway I love a good rave up and I probably can't dance but try and stop me you bastards
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2004-10-12 19:31 [#01361281]
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'Psytrance raves'????? ha ha! you mindless monger!
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2004-10-12 19:41 [#01361287]
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there is a place in everyone's life for psy trance
You just have to open your etc etc...
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OK
on 2004-10-13 22:14 [#01362570]
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most often men don't dance, most idm fans are male.
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OK
on 2004-10-13 22:17 [#01362572]
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Men only dance. when: a) they're high (THC, ectasy, alcohol, acid...) b) there are girls around. c) (RARE) they like dancing
most men don't like dancing
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