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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-10-14 04:51 [#01362685]
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you're wrong there imo.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-10-14 05:07 [#01362691]
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I don't "dance" per se.. I mostly just jump and pump my fist and shit (sometimes, if there is enough room, I do drunken kung-fu, or we start a "fight"), but I sure as HELL don't just stand in the corner, watching.. me and a few friends has made a thing where we ALWAYS stand in the front-row at concerts! HUG THE FENCE!
however, I only go to concerts.. I don't go to discos and places where you actually GO to dance...
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big
from lsg on 2004-10-14 05:09 [#01362693]
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yeah, people that just nod their heads deserve to be shot
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Combo
from Sex on 2004-10-14 05:31 [#01362695]
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Personnaly I like dancing like i'm selling nails...
Even with noisy stuff like Merzbow's : if you feel the music, there's no problem... in fact when you see people dancing around, you can't just stand static among them.. unless you are very very shy or music is very very bad (but even if you don't like the music much, in gigs you always feel it better IMO).
Oh Tolstoyed, don't forget to tell us about the Merzbow gig !! =Þ
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acid_polic3
from london (United Kingdom) on 2004-10-14 06:11 [#01362711]
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i don't understand why anyone would care if people dance or not; its their desicion , let anyone enjoy the gig in any way they like as long as it doesn't get in someonelses way [eg severe moshing]
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-10-14 06:16 [#01362712]
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if nothing else, then because of the respect to the dj :)
combo, but ofcourse.
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acid_polic3
from london (United Kingdom) on 2004-10-14 08:11 [#01362772]
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i really disagree , perhaps if you are bang in the middle of the room standing there , fairplay that is lame , but nothing wrong with just chilling in the wings smoking a jay and taking in the tunes
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-10-14 08:15 [#01362780]
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again, depends on music...if the music being played is dance oriented i'd expect people to shake it (at least a little)...or as you say they could move aside and leave more space for others.
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mrgypsum
on 2004-10-14 08:44 [#01362819]
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i dance, but i can only dance to certain stuff, as said it does depend on the music, i dont like dancing to squarepusher, i really like just standing there (but not right were everyone else is dancing) and listening. same with plaid i like just listening, but Vibert, forget about it i am mr mcdancealot and my legs have turned to liquid, his stuff is infectious.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-10-14 08:52 [#01362835]
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exactly what i was thinking...i haven't seen spusher or vibert yet but i know perfectly well what you mean. plaid is a fine example of music to listen to...although it's very rhythmic, but it's much better just to watch (the excellent vids by bob), listen and have a smoke.
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mrgypsum
on 2004-10-14 08:53 [#01362836]
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yes, i agree, if vibert every comes around i strongly suggest seeing him, you will be out on the dance floor no matter how insecure or sober you are.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-10-14 08:56 [#01362839]
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he was here couple of years ago but i missed him for some reason. i'll definitely go if/when he comes around again. although i'd much rather see squarepusher instead :)
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idle interloper
on 2004-10-14 18:40 [#01363460]
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I think the main difference between "idm" and the average "dance music," is that "idm" is much more focused on the subtle details of sound and instrumentation (even if it's often largely pre-programmed). Another aspect that is becoming hugely popular and becoming more and more associated with "idm" is fact that the musicians very often deliberately do things to throw off anyone who would try to dance. Many of the well-known artists construct their songs in a way that so they are very difficult to follow rhythymically. To me, it seems like it's a movement of music that chooses not to neccesarily include or condone a certain non-musical aspect that comes deep from it's roots, simply because it's from it's roots. A similar example would be newer "heavy metal"-ish type bands who tell their fans not to go violently crazy and "mosh" to their music. ...Like the kids should be able to stand their and stroke their chins to the apparent "complexity" of this so called "new variety" instead of being continually assualted by an uruly, hulking sweaty dude who is only focused on venting aggression. I know that's probably an unpopular comparison, but it's all expression and movement to music, however chaotic or annoying one may be.
I don't think it's wrong or annoying for these artists to discourage these sort of accepted norms of behaviour, either through their speaking, or indirectly, through their performance-through the nature of their creations.
Again, I've lost my point mostly.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-10-14 18:44 [#01363468]
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"is fact that the musicians very often deliberately do things to throw off anyone who would try to dance"
from my experience most of the top idm artists almost always play different (dance oriented) music to what they release and that's great imo. i don't like to hear them play same stuff i can hear on records..
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idle interloper
on 2004-10-14 18:50 [#01363477]
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Well I just mean the music in general, not the live renditions in particular. I agree, It's good to hear something different live. Maybe the reason that the live concerts are a bit more straightforward, other than the fact that it makes it more possible to 'get into it', is that it'd be much more difficult to do the little glitches and technical fuckary with the usual hardware and other live-music tools... It's not easty to get into the gritty, often relatively-mentally-challenging aspects of the music that are many times a focal point of the album versions.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-10-14 18:59 [#01363489]
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again i don't agree with everything :) there are people that are quite good at doing 'little glitches and technical fuckary' as you put it, infact they enjoy live shows the most...the improvisation and all that.
i agree with the last part though, but only to a certain extent. i guess we just have different experience in live gigs :)
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OK
on 2004-10-16 02:28 [#01364474]
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i'm the greatest dancer ever (electronic i guess) and i only do it to show off with girls
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bryce_berny
from chronno (Canada) on 2004-10-16 02:55 [#01364487]
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I don't like it when nobody dances, it is pretty annoying actually for me. I mean, I really like to bust it out, beats and music on a big system make me want to move. Then you get all embarassed in shit because nobody else is dancing, people act like there is some sort of code to it or something, like there is no way that you could actually just LIKE dancing.
Nobody dancd at the rephlex party I went to last year, they just stood there like a bunch of zombies.
fuckers. It's shit like that which makes music go away.
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-10-16 02:56 [#01364488]
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Well I can't dance.
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2004-10-16 04:05 [#01364520]
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anyone can dance...jump around, shake it, just go mad, forget about your inhibitions and let the music take control. dancing is mucho fun.
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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2004-10-16 04:52 [#01364537]
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im fairly shy, so im hardly ever just throw myself out there no matter how drunk i am, but but, but as mrgypsum said, vibert can really make one wanna move nomatter how sober/shy you are, squarepusher worked well for me too, maybe becouse im really into his stuff
plaid was a "standing noding drinking beer band" the last time i saw them, first time i saw them they played allot of double figure and that made me move at least alittle
i agree that it feels good to overcome the shyness and start dancing, it's kinda hard when one is shy but it feels good afterwards =D
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kokoon
from Ljubljana (Slovenia) on 2004-10-16 04:58 [#01364539]
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i do danc
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melack
from barcielwave on 2004-10-16 08:24 [#01364602]
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i only dance if i really feel the music. that means that 90% of the times im in a disco/live perfomance i do not dance... (only afx made me dance...)
today: mira calix live. will i be able to dance with her, or it will be abstract and slow?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-10-16 08:31 [#01364606]
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i don't think you'll be able to dance to mira...although she might surprise you :)
i was moving a bit last night at ceephax...but since i hurt my knee pretty bad couple of days ago it hurts like hell today..
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2004-10-16 09:59 [#01364663]
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damnit you people get to see all these great shows
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hobbes
from age on 2004-10-16 10:06 [#01364665]
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on the other when she dj's she makes me dance a lot. she plays a lot of unreleased stuff and white labels. mind you i haven't seen her that much :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-10-16 10:10 [#01364667]
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i haven't seen her at all i think...at least not that i can remember. i'll have to trust you on this one :)
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2004-10-16 12:55 [#01364772]
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i imagine the best way to overcome shyness is to close your eyes while dancing.....i wouldn’t know this ofcourse because iv only ever been to 1 live show and that was aphex.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-10-16 13:16 [#01364783]
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OUR SAVIOR
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2004-10-16 13:20 [#01364785]
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did'nt you see my above post?
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-10-16 13:25 [#01364788]
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maybe!
But I really like this one the best out of all his videos. Especially that it has Autechre playing in the background.
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2004-10-16 13:29 [#01364790]
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what autechre song is that anyway
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-10-16 13:31 [#01364791]
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Eutow
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-10-16 17:26 [#01364899]
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i haven't seen that clip yet...it's brilliant!!
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mrgypsum
on 2004-10-16 20:02 [#01364975]
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if you are shy in a big dark room while "dance" music is being played, and there is alcohol being served, and you still need to close your eyes to get enough nerve to dance, than you need some help getting out onto the dance floor. i suggest a shrink, no i am only kidding, but its really not that hard to do, just move to the beat, it doesnt matter what you do when you move, swing back and forth, move your hips, jump up and down, just move to the beat, you will get into it and you will lose any insecurity you have. its makes the show 100 times more enjoyable.
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xf
from Australia on 2004-10-17 03:59 [#01365026]
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i can't dance, but i do anyway if the music's great; long as i'm enjoying myself, it's all good. i know i look like a fucking retard, but it beats standing in a corner being insecure.
it's been a loooong time since i've been somewhere that plays decent music, though, so i guess i don't dance at all.
went out last night for the first time in ages, by the end of the night i felt like stabbing somebody in the face. god, i wish there were some decent places in adelaide; i swear there are /none/. if r&b and sleazy bars are your thing though, sure, i guess it's great.
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xf
from Australia on 2004-10-17 04:07 [#01365028]
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wow, those videos are amazing. love it how he moves erratically like a robot, looks like the videos have been digitally edited.
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acid_polic3
from london (United Kingdom) on 2004-10-17 04:59 [#01365036]
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sqp was so good i let go a bit , but it has to fucking amazing for that , vsnares too. but come on if yr drunk and stoned dancing is just flailing yr limbs everywere , can't expect more than that.
will anyone do the robot to dmx krew?
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2004-10-17 08:19 [#01365078]
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i dont know if i can dance or not, but i always dance. sure it looks silly :) but who cares really.
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neetta
from Finland on 2004-10-18 02:04 [#01365879]
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i dance, with idm it's kind of different to dance, the subtle details of the music come out as smaller subtler movements.
but the best thing to dance to is techno.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-10-18 02:33 [#01365890]
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I can't and I won't dance...never
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2004-10-18 13:45 [#01365936]
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also spracht monoid.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-10-18 17:31 [#01366228]
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i prefer something a bit more energetic to techno myself...
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-10-18 17:54 [#01366245]
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really depends on the song.
I've been dancing to Quench lately.
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