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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-01 14:07 [#01350152]
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..as some of you might know, I'm a big fan of the "Alien" films, especially the initial film.
I just saw "Alien vs. Predator".
what a piece of utter shit.
I was expecting something pretty awful, but this just dulled my mind.
as I just wrote in reply to someone on the IMdb boards saying this film is "spot on":
"what is "spot on"? the hastily touched upon 'markers' from both series (ooh quickly, thrown in a few facehuggers, oooh we have to show at least one chestburster, oooh we need the queen, the queen! if Anderson had been insane enough I bet he would've loved to invent some twisted way to fit Ripley into this story..), just used to tie in, never actually creating any tension and/or excitement?
the storytelling is lazy and clichéed, the design is lazy and clichéed.
I wouldn't mind so much if the total wasn't so thoroughly boring!
this film really has no redeeming features."
fuuuuck.. :(
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2004-10-01 14:09 [#01350157]
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who won though?
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-10-01 14:10 [#01350158]
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suffer the same fate as many
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-01 14:10 [#01350159]
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i kinda enjoyed it up until..
**SPOILER**
.. the chick made friends with the predator. everything that happend after that had a gayity factor of at least 9.3
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eric_hard_jams
on 2004-10-01 14:10 [#01350160]
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it was a score draw, 3 points on your pools coupon
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-10-01 14:10 [#01350161]
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agree
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-01 14:11 [#01350163]
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but, up until that point it was a fairly nicely done peice of action eye candy. which is basically what it billed itself as.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-01 14:12 [#01350164]
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man it's been a while since film was such a piece of crap it actually gets me all riled up.
there should be an arena-fight between George Lucas and Paul Anderson. and fucking hope they kill eachother simultaneously.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-01 14:13 [#01350168]
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no it wasn't even that.
just absolutely boring and drawn out. with a supposedly Italian prat explaining every shitty little detail along the way. jeeeesus.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-10-01 14:14 [#01350171]
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this "movie" failed to entertain me in even the b-movie knows its bad kind of way i had hoped it would when i walked in. terrible. if someone makes a movie worse than this, i'll blow up my local theater.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-10-01 14:15 [#01350172]
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I was sort of watching it, and soon as the facehugger leapt out of the egg in slow motion I lost all faith.
If Alien: Resurrection killed the Alien franchise, this is just desecrating the grave.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-01 14:15 [#01350173]
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can you give an example of what you think is a fairly done peice of action eyecandy?
or do you just not like the genre?
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-10-01 14:17 [#01350175]
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also, the predators were wimpy as shit, and the aliens just looked like shit. and that thing at the end with the queen should have been awesome but somehow made me hate the movie even more.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-10-01 14:17 [#01350176]
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Given the fact that the franchise combination was essentially capable of providing the greatest sci fi action thriller of all times it was a pity they allowed a cunt to write a poorly thought out high school style script and film it.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-01 14:18 [#01350181]
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"predator"
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-01 14:19 [#01350182]
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it would've been shitloads better if the predators would've just killed off the humans as soon as they flipped the switch, then got on with battling the aliens.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-10-01 14:19 [#01350184]
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agreed
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Komakino
from Tan-giers USSR (Russia) on 2004-10-01 14:20 [#01350188]
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they were two tired and simplistic films to begin with, boo-hoo
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-01 14:20 [#01350189]
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I do think a good action movie can be very worthwhile, but then it still must be done well. other examples would be the "Die Hard" films, I guess. or "Jurassic Park".
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-10-01 14:21 [#01350191]
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they should have set it in the future and had some kind of badass ragtag group of marines ie. aliens or predator.
it was pure marketing, the movie was gauranteed to draw a lot of money opening weekend no matter how bad it was, and it didn't help that it was rated PG-13. there were more kids there than adults when i went to see it.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-01 14:23 [#01350193]
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i agree.
i dunno, maybe i was just in the mood for mindlessness, cause i was fairly entertained up until the woman won over the predator... everything that happend after that was lost on me.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-10-01 14:23 [#01350196]
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but, i wasn't angry that i spent $5.50, or however the hell much a movie costs nowdays.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-10-01 14:26 [#01350205]
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I agree mr shope...it was an enjoyable enough romp...it's just a film that most people feel they could have done a much better job themselves.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-10-01 15:06 [#01350288]
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Yeah, it sucked, and I LOVE the art of the popcorn movie. It was even worse than the SNES side scrolling beat 'em up. This franchise was always a bit wobbly, other than some gems like that Jaguar game. _____ vs ______ joint ventures are easy to fuck up.
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2004-10-03 06:47 [#01351427]
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some guy on the imdb.com message board is claiming to be Paul W.S. Anderson. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0027271/board/nest/11930432
He's lashing out at Hate Fans
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nacmat
on 2004-10-03 06:57 [#01351429]
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this movie really exists?
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big
from lsg on 2004-10-03 06:58 [#01351430]
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i was offended by men in black 2 because they just redid 1, which was pretty original i thought. do you agree?
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big
from lsg on 2004-10-03 07:02 [#01351432]
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that was stupid. and though i dont know him prolly not him
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-10-03 07:18 [#01351443]
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I downloaded this and I'm glad I did. It could've been so fucking awesome. Just reading the comics gives you a wealth of stuff to actually film. Why he did this stupid plot is beyond me. I wasn't too dissapointed though as with it being a Paul WS Anderson film I knew not to expect too much. Still, it could've been great and instead it was barely OK. On the plus side my girlfriends little brother (14) like it so I suppose there's a crowd for you. I've also introduced him to Aphex and Snares. Joy!
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OK
on 2004-10-03 08:46 [#01351470]
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i liked it.. i expected something really bad. but the moive satisfied my wishes of what it could be.
the story is consistent with the comic, and with the alien and predator characters. so I think it was as good as it could be.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-03 09:49 [#01351500]
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another film based on a comic.
I didn't like MiB 1 very much, seemed like the pilot of a televisionseries for me.
why do you think it was original?
I agree on hating MiB 2 though. that really is a piece of uninspired wank. in fact, after I had seen it at the cinema, I remember making a thread here saying I would never go to see a "Hollywood blockbuster" at the cinema ever again.. if only the search still worked..
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