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ecnadniarb
on 2004-09-24 06:39 [#01344168]
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I am sure some of you are aware that Ken is being held in Iraq by al Tawhid and al Jihad with the threat of being beheaded. His family only live about 10 minutes away from where I live.
My only question is whether it is being reported in the US media the fact that the US government have stepped in to ensure that he has an almost 100% chance of dying?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-09-24 06:42 [#01344170]
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you have brought down upon yourself the rage of elusive.
It's probably called "the brave rescue mission by the american heroes" in us news.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-09-24 06:46 [#01344175]
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it is being reported.
it's horrible.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-09-24 06:48 [#01344177]
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No, the Iraqi court system decided that one of the female prisoners and two male prisoners were to be released on bail due to the fact they have absolutely no evidence on her. As the release of the female prisoners was the request of the group holding Mr Bigley there was a real hope for him. The Iraqi justice minister made the announcement to the international press that following a number of hearings which began before the three hostages were taken they were being released as part of normal the judicial process.
The US refused to release them, and that puppet twat of a prime minister they have installed has said that although he feels they will be released, he has to sanction is and he is in no rush to do so (he's in New York at the moment living it up with the senators).
It makes me fucking sick.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-09-24 06:53 [#01344183]
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i dunno that much about the details, but from what i've read, a couple of the people the hostage takers have asked for are somewhere in the process of being reviewed for release by a process that is/was totally unrelated to this incident.
but, to give in to this kind of behavior is absolutely the wrong thing to do. it validates everything they are doing and undoubtedly causes more of it to happen.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-09-24 06:56 [#01344184]
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So, the review process reaches its natural conclusion, but we should let Mr Bigley be beheaded just because they US government are afraid it is going to be interpreted as them backing down.
If Iraq is once again a sovereign nation, why the fuck are the US still having final say on everything going on over there? It is perfectly obvious the interim Iraqi government are puppets for the US.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-09-24 07:02 [#01344186]
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i wasn't aware that it had reached it's conclusion.
yep, the current iraqi administration is definately not completly soveriegn. there was a huge debate about that back when the switchover happend. rumsfeld wanted to call it "partial sovereignty". wtf? there is no such thing.
it would've been much better if we hadn't tried to pretend they were soverign yet... at least, it would've avoided dumb arguments over power like this.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-09-26 09:11 [#01344258]
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Crazy things going on in Iraq, another 15 people killed including women and children by US forces. Will this ever end?
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2004-09-26 09:18 [#01344267]
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What makes me sick is fuckers like Jack Straw and Tony Blair with their crocadile-tears-style our heart goes out to them but there's fuck all we can do, attitude. Of course there is something they can do. They got us into this mess.
I have little hope for Ken Bigley after seeing the barbaric slaughter of his American counterparts. The only hope now is if the Jihad mob release him to display that they have some "humanity". Not very likely.
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eric_hard_jams
on 2004-09-26 13:01 [#01344575]
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getting kidnapped and killed is an occupational hazard at the moment, he should face it like a man.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2004-09-26 13:08 [#01344587]
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Whats beyond me is that these terrorists can maintain a website and sell dvds of the beheadings in Baghdad, and yet us, with the best secret service in the world, cannot track these fuckers down. I mean, how much time do they need? Or we should have our own terror group to fight fire with fire.
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