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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-09-22 08:58 [#01342216]
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I'm reading a book on this.. one i found at a 2nd hand bookshop and the kind o've always wanted as a kid. A Chronological Atlas of WWII. It shows the signifiicent events in maps month by month and how simultaneous events affected each other.
Jesus i'm learning a lot. Didn't know Russia invaded Finland at the start, secrelty backed by Germany. Didn't realise how quickly France fell. Didn't know Japans foothold in China was so massive. Didn't know Italy had such power in Africa
Absoultely facinating. Imagine the internet was around back then!
We live in a weird information age now, and this bookis putting it into perspective for me in an odd way. What a crazy world we live in.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-09-22 09:00 [#01342217]
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one of our clients is a sort of wwii historian.
he's got some fascinating stories.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-09-22 09:00 [#01342218]
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Wikipedia is good for wars. Re-learning all the shit I've forgotten since school thanks to that old chestnut.
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big
from lsg on 2004-09-22 09:04 [#01342227]
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isnt that russia invading finland thing part of the molotov von ribbentrop pact?
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-09-22 09:06 [#01342231]
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Therre was a firrst worrld warr? I didn't learrn shit at school.
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-09-22 09:06 [#01342234]
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Hitler/Franco/Musollin and Stalin were some fruitcakes, eh?
Unreal how they got there all the same.....un fucking unbelievable.
You'd almost prefer their upfront militiristic agenda than Bush or Bin Laden's sneaky wankery.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-22 09:33 [#01342283]
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Stalin must've been the über-insane-motherfucker out of those four.
that guy just continued what he had been doing for years and years and years when WWII came round.
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paul8088
from United States on 2004-09-22 09:35 [#01342288]
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russia also invaded poland on 9/17 and germany invaded poland on 9/1
stalin was a jackass
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mrgypsum
on 2004-09-22 09:36 [#01342291]
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whos more of a bad guy stalin or hitler, i am going to go with stalin.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-09-22 09:38 [#01342292]
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ribbentrop-molotov was about slicing poland ow two halfs russian invasion was an ending of a pact- hitler was about to take left half, stalin- right one.
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paul8088
from United States on 2004-09-22 09:40 [#01342293]
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poland....always in the middle
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mrgypsum
on 2004-09-22 09:44 [#01342295]
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each dodomu spach!
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-09-22 14:55 [#01342619]
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LOL, thats great !
who teached you this one ?
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mrgypsum
on 2004-09-22 17:43 [#01342759]
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i grew up next to a polish family, amazing the differences between my family and theres, i still am friends with them. they are great
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-09-22 17:43 [#01342761]
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super :D
a umiesz więcej po polsku ?
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mrgypsum
on 2004-09-22 17:46 [#01342763]
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i only know it when i hear it, so nie mach.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-09-22 17:47 [#01342764]
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cool :) youre teh second person here that knows how to read/speak.write. amazing how small world is.
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drummond
from coffee, ahh, a burger, ahh on 2004-09-22 17:49 [#01342769]
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Why don't polish women use vibrators?
It chips their teeth.
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mrgypsum
on 2004-09-22 17:50 [#01342771]
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maybe since you are polish you know the polish people i know??? all polish people know each other its a proven fact.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-09-22 17:58 [#01342786]
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hehe, never enough of poles, eh ? maybe i know those ppl, who knows... :D
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-09-23 03:46 [#01343122]
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The World Wars are savagely beautiful things, so ugly. I'll never pass up a WW1 or WW2 documentary on the History Channel, or A&E, believe you me.
There was an article in the paper here the other day about Nova Scotia fighter pilot aces. The top fighter pilots, the cream of the crop, often racked up about 30 kills (downed planes) and about 40 damaged planes. That's insane... these guys must have sold their souls to the Devil before hopping into the cockpit. No matter how good you are, how sharp your instincts or elite your training, you'd think it would be nigh impossible to be such a fucking juggernaut up there (or in war in general). Luck plays such a factor in war... you could be Rambo, and some mistimed mortar could explode you, errant shrapnel could shred you, or you could be one of the unlucky bastards on a blown up boat not even AT the battle yet, dead but no fault of your own. And some of these ''Red Barons'' fucked up the shit of nearly 100 enemy pilots without nary a scratch.
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-09-23 04:21 [#01343160]
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i find the logistics of wars amazing.. all the behind the scenes shit like how to get supplies to the front, securing fuel/food etc. "Private Ryan" was such great little movie for showing the chaos and bloodyness of it all.
Been reading how the Finns kickd soviet ass back in 1939/40 under overwhelming firepower cos they knew how to fight in the snowy moutains with simple weapons and tactics. The battle for Norway was damn interesting too.... how the brits and germans reached the same conclusions about Norways tactical importance and more or less arrived there at the same time to battle it out.
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earface
from somewhere (Yugoslavia) on 2004-10-05 12:59 [#01353929]
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Two books you should definitely read about significant points (on the Eastern Front) and military tactics in World War II are Antony Beevor's STALINGRAD, and BERLIN: THE DOWNFALL 1945.
Italy didn't really have that much 'power' in Africa. They exerted a militaristic influence to begin with but their armed forces where always bested by Allied troops. The Germans had to bale them out every time. My Grandfather was stationed in Egypt.
You would probably be interested in the Irish attitude during the war. I've read somewhere about a PoW camp in Ireland that incarcerated both British and Axis prisoners.
The Finns certainly didn't 'kick soviet ass' in 1942.
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big
from lsg on 2004-10-05 13:02 [#01353932]
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dont forget call of duty
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