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Grand Theft Auto San Andreas
 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-09-20 12:21 [#01340510]
Points: 8864 Status: Regular



The release date was pushed back a little while ago.. until
when? November something? Anyone confirm?


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-09-20 12:25 [#01340514]
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YES!


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-20 12:26 [#01340516]
Points: 47414 Status: Moderator



on a different note, Knights of the Old Republic 2 is set
for a 3rd or 4th of december release, I believe.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2004-09-20 12:43 [#01340563]
Points: 10965 Status: Regular | Followup to REFLEX: #01340510



its gonna be so fucking awesome.



 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-09-20 12:46 [#01340565]
Points: 27325 Status: Lurker



october 26.

Although some claim that in the states they are delayed by
just minimal days. That would be eastern. I should call
bruce and check this out. mine is preordered


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-09-20 12:46 [#01340566]
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Game Overview.

Five years ago Carl Johnson escaped from the pressures of
life in Los Santos, San Andreas... a city tearing itself
apart with gang trouble, drugs and corruption. Where
filmstars and millionaires do their best to avoid the
dealers and gangbangers.

Now, it's the early 90s. Carl's got to go home. His mother
has been murdered, his family has fallen apart and his
childhood friends are all heading towards disaster.

On his return to the neighborhood, a couple of corrupt cops
frame him for homicide. CJ is forced on a journey that takes
him across the entire state of San Andreas, to save his
family and to take control of the streets.

Liberty City. Vice City. Now San Andreas, a new chapter in
the legendary series. Grand Theft Auto returns to the
PlayStation®2 this October.

- planetgrandtheftauto.com



 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-09-20 12:47 [#01340567]
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Features.

The following are the features known so far with San
Andreas:

Three cities to roam: "Los Santos" (Los Angeles), "San
Fierro" (San Francisco) and "Las Venturra" (Las Vegas).

"The entire game area is approximately four to six times as
large as the entirety of either of the previous entries in
the series," said Dan Houser.

Expect "real-time reflections on cars, windows, and mirrors,
as well as new techniques like radial lighting, which allows
for more realistic shadowing, and soft-shadow lighting for
interior levels," said Game Informer.

Everything in the game now has independent models for day
and night to give better lighting and shadowing.

Four-person drive-by shootings.

House robberies.

Mountain(s) and Smog.

Bicycles.

"Impact animation," also known as ragdoll physics.

Stamina meter as well as the ability to stay fit or get fat.


Enhanced A.I. where every character has a "brain".

The ability to swim.

You will be able to recruit gang members to go with you
wherever you want and do four-person drive-by's.

Dual weapons (dual pistols confirmed) have been implemented



 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-09-20 12:48 [#01340568]
Points: 27325 Status: Lurker



First Update - 17th June 2004

Gameplay

These 'in between' areas will contain their own unique
characters and gameplay sequences.

San Fierro (San Francisco) contains lots of hills, and will
involve a lot of driving.

There are tons of fully rendered interiors, which will
involve new styles of gameplay.

Because of these interior expansions, you have the ability
to rob houses.

Buying properties and making business is to expand greatly.


In Las Venturra, you are able to buy, construct and run your
very own casino.

The game contains a greater level of seriousness, but still
includes humour.

San Andreas will include some 'familiar faces'... some
characters from previous titles.

Because of the new pedestrian modes, you can recruit members
into your gang, to help you with missions.

You can conduct 4-person drive-by shootings.

All tasks, missions and side-missions have a purpose. They
all contain relevance to the main storyline, and allow you
to learn new skills required in missions.

House break-ins require skill and planning. It's not as easy
as a car-jacking.

As you progress, new styles of gameplay are introduced.

In Las Venturra, you can gamble your well earned money.

The game will still include built in tutorials, however,
there are hundreds of skills to learn, so instead of
installing hundreds of tutorials, you learn these skills
during missions & side tasks.

In every mission you will be doing something new.

In order to maintain physical state, Carl must eat and goto
the Gym. He can become obese, and underweight. This involves
a stamina meter. Too much fast food and no exercise makes
Carl obese. Carl's lifestyle and physical condition will
affect his stamina, and the gameplay.

You can collect missions in the countryside.

You now have the ability to swim in the game. If you drive
into water, you can escape through the car window, or sink
along with the vehicle! Some missions require swimming.



 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-09-20 12:49 [#01340569]
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.......continued

You can get a haircut, and style of your choice.

You can bounce your car with the right analog stick.

Carl chews gum.

The weather system has improved, and is packed with extra
features.

You can 'hide' from police, in shadows and behind buildings.
You can pick them off one by one, using various new
techniques.

The game will still be hilarious, although seriousness has
increased.

You can take over areas of the map, with your gang, the
Orange Grove Families.

The game is set in early 1990s; one of the most troubled and
divisive times in Californian history.

The radio will contain a mixture of different 90s style
songs, aswell as some famous (older) west coast songs.

There are new styles of car-jacking.

You can get a haircut, and style of your choice.

You can bounce your car with the right analog stick.

Carl chews gum.

The weather system has improved, and is packed with extra
features.

You can 'hide' from police, in shadows and behind buildings.
You can pick them off one by one, using various new
techniques.

The game will still be hilarious, although seriousness has
increased.

You can take over areas of the map, with your gang, the
Orange Grove Families.

The game is set in early 1990s; one of the most troubled and
divisive times in Californian history.

The radio will contain a mixture of different 90s style
songs, aswell as some famous (older) west coast songs.

There are new styles of car-jacking.



 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-09-20 12:49 [#01340570]
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Technology

Rockstar North's programming staff have designed new
streaming and rendering technology. The game will boast
environments that are more intricate and more interactive
than in previous titles.

The sense of immediacy has increased, due to a number of
technical improvements to the games graphics engine.

There will be real time reflections on cars, windows and
mirrors.

There will be radial lighting which allow more realistic
shadows; soft shadow lighting for interior levels.

Everything in the game has independant models for day and
night time, to make sure that objects look as detailed and
vivid during the evening hours, as they do during the day.

The only loading times in the game occur when entering
buildings/interiors.

A new "impact-animation" system has been added, another term
for ragdoll physics. When you hit somebody, they will fall
to the pavement in a painfully realistic fashion.



 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-09-20 12:50 [#01340571]
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Setting

San Andreas is not a city, it's a state.

The city will not be set in Los Angeles, San Francsico or
Las Vegas, but in all three.

The cities will contain countryside in between.

The state will contain three cities, Los Santos (Los
Angeles), San Fierro (San Francisco) and Las Venturra (Las
Vegas)

Each city is approximately the same size as Vice City.

Not all of the cities will be accessible to begin with.

The entire game is estimated to be 4-6 times larger than
previous GTA releases.

You can travel between cities, on roadways that pass
countryside.

The countryside offers a mountain.

It is possible to drive from LA, through countryside, up a
mountain into San Francisco, and onto Las Vegas.

Every bit of the new map is crisp, and has a lot more going
on than previous titles.

There is desert land in the game, which will be deserted. It
will however, contain very interesting features.

The cities contain miles and miles of interstate, valleys,
freeways, deserts, coastline and badlands. You are free to
explore all of them.

The countryside contains fiels, farms, rivers, forests,
deserts and hills.

The countryside contains a legendry mountain nearly half a
mile tall. It takes a minute just to fly from the base to
the top in a chopper, and much longer on bike.

The desert contains tumbleweed.



 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-09-20 12:51 [#01340572]
Points: 27325 Status: Lurker



Weapons

There are new fist fighting techniques. When you target
someone, green will be displayed if they have full health,
yellow at half, and red if they can be killed in another
shot.

Targetting systems have improved greatly. Developed from
Manhunt's targetting system.

The weapons are limited to what was available during the 90s
time period.

Vehicles

Speciality vehicles can be unlocked.

New vehicles that aren't available in town, are available in
the countryside, like quad bikes.

You can race in the country.

There will be new modes of transportation. BMX Bicycles.

Car handling is improved.

Hundreds of new vehicles have been added.

Characters

The main character is called Carl Johnson.

Johnson spent 5 years in Liberty City. He left San Andreas,
a ghetto neughbourhood, after the killing of his brother
Brian. He died in a tragic incident. Carl's older brother
Sweet Johnson blamed Carl for the incident.

Carls mother dies.

Carl returns to San Andreas, for the funeral. He finds his
family, and his old gang, the Orange Grove Families.

Sweet Johnson and his sister Kendall fight a lot.

Sweet, Smoke and Ryder are members of the Orange Grove
Families.

Frank Tenpenny and Eddie Polaski, a couple of corrupt cops
on your case, frame Carl for homocide, and Carl must escape,
to protect his family.

Information from GTAarea.com



 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-09-20 12:52 [#01340573]
Points: 11512 Status: Lurker | Followup to virginpusher: #01340571



Suicide was such fun on the previous GTA games, can't wait
to plunge off the top of that mountain.


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-09-20 12:52 [#01340574]
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7/23/2004
Courtesy: GTAGaming/play Playstation Magazine Germany

New Features
-- Carl can attack enemies from behind, after hiding and
sneaking through the shadows.

-- Carl's ability to swim and the length of time he can stay
underwater for depends on his fitness and how often he
practices swimming.

-- Members of The Orange Grove Families wear green clothes.


-- The Ballas gang members wear purple clothes.

-- Models will include up to 50% more polygons than Vice
City.

-- Bicycles will move forward when the X button is held
down, but tapping it will make the player travel faster.

-- Carl can roll to the side during combat on the press of a
button.

-- Players can now pivot the camera around the car, in order
to gain a better view.

-- A choice of haircuts are available, from shaven/bald
heads to 'Afro' style cuts.

-- Not only can players choose new hairstyles, but choices
of beards and other facial hair will be at their disposal.


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-09-20 12:54 [#01340576]
Points: 27325 Status: Lurker



July 23rd.

Source-September EGM

-The damage system is now much improved for cars
-Los Santos has the first missions, then San Fierro has the
middle ones, and ending missioons will be in Las Venturras.

-In Las Venturras, Carl will expand his empire, but how is
entirely up to you.
-You can choose who you want to hit unlike VC and 3 where it
was forced to be the nearest one.
-You can see twice as far as in previous GTAs.
-Rockstar has something they won't tell, but it involves
Girlfriends and gyms.

7/24/04
New Information:
-- Three franchise restaurants are to be included: Burger
Shot, Well Stacked Pizza and Cluckin Bell, a Mr. Whoopee ice
cream stand, as well as the Sprunk Soda brand beverage which
was in Vice City.

-- A message will pop up onscreen when Carl becomes hungry.
Players who ignore this message will see CJ's bodyfat
reduce, with the effect of his clothes no longer fitting
properly. Skininess won't just have a visual effect either,
a thin Carl will be weak, unable to throw powerful punches,
lift heavy boxes and will lack stamina, meaning cycling,
running and swimming become difficult.

-- Conversely, eating too much will see Carl become fat,
with similar effects of loss of stamina, poor fighting
abilities (due to slow response times AND CJ becoming a
larger object to hit). Interestingly, the walking animation
will change, to a penguin style 'waddle' due to CJ's
inability to put his hands by his sides while in this state.


7/26/04
New Information:
-- On sitting down in Reece's barber shop, players can
scroll through a list of haircuts, previewing each one. Some
cost up to $500 to apply to the character.
-- The map is 'America Shaped', and Los Santos is less than
a quarter of it, in the bottom right corner.
-- Streets will glow orange due to the harsh sunlight.
-- During a four-person driveby, each character can have an
independent target, and a car health meter is displayed on
screen to show the damage which has been inflicted on the
car.



 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-09-20 12:55 [#01340579]
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7/29/04
New Information
-- Here the names of some other small towns in San Andreas:
Shady Creeks, Flint County, Whetstone, Fern Ridge, and Red
County.
-- Each major city will have it's own airport where you will
be able to steal a Dodo and fly around the state.
-- You'll be able to pick up hitchhikers.
-- You'll have a tow truck that will tow cars.
-- You will be able to choose your own camera angle with the
right analog stick.
-- You can find a wide array of outfits in shops around the
state.

7/30/04
New Information
-- The change between city and countryside is gradual.
-- The air in Los Santos has a bright, gritty feel, and
occasional bursts of rain; San Fierro is foggy; Las Venturas
has clear air and harsh lights; the countryside has a
warmer, more natural vibe to it.
-- The game has an improved use of partical effects. Exhaust
smoke, tyres kicking up dirt, clouds of smoke when you stand
on the brakes, and sparks flying from bullets.
-- Carjacking animations have improved. Rather than pulling
the driver out of the vehicle, CJ opens the door, wacks him
in the face, and throws him onto the road.
-- Country music is confirmed and will probably be picked up
through radio stations in the countryside and small suburban
towns
-- Kendall is angry with CJ because he wasn't around to help
the family.
-- The number of recorded stats has increased. There will be
a stat for just about everything you do; driving
motorcycles, driving cars, swimming, running, sprinting and
so on.
-- Pedestrians call obese Carl a 'fat ba*tard'. Even your
own gang members say "dude, you need to lose some weight".
-- The pedestrian AI has improved greatly. You may see two
pedestrians walking down a street, holding hands. If you
break them apart, they'll react, and hold hands again.
-- Each pedestrian lives a different life. You can literally
'stalk' a pedestrian, watch he/she get out of their house,
goto a shop, meet up with a girl, and go home again (for
example).



 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-09-20 12:56 [#01340582]
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CJ can get custom tattoos. In Los Santos the tattoos will
feature gang names, guns, and women, typically in black
patterns of the time. San Fierro's tattoos include Aztec
symbols and drug iconography, and the Las Venturra designs
focus upon gambling.

You can control the camera with the Right Analog stick while
driving / running, meaning you can fire weapons while moving
in a different direction.

Cars will get dirty, and may rust if they are not cleaned
regularly.

Gang member AI has improved. They integrate more, and will
respond to how well you treat them, eg if an enemy chases
you into home territory, your fellow gang members will help
kill the intruder.

The BMX bike allows CJ to perform stunts such as bunnyhops,
wheelies, and endos, as well as 360s and 180s.

Civilans do not allow you to carjack them as easily. They
fight back, and resist. CJ can do things such as
pistol-whipping, and ramming their head into the dashboard,
to get them to give him the car.

St. Brutus Motel will be a place to meet new folks and cut
some deals, and will be used right throughout the game.

There will be several gyms in the game. The Los Santos gyms
focus on fighting (punches / kicks) in a boxing scenario. In
San Fierro, the gyms equip CJ with martial arts techniques.
In Las Venturra, you can learn street fighting techniques,
and drity tricks.

Police AI has improved. They run and duck for cover, and
back each other up more.

Looking at Police Choppers can hinder vision if you look
directly at the searchlights.

Police can chase you on motorcycles, and shoot at you while
driving.



 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-09-20 12:57 [#01340583]
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The state of San Andreas consists of 3 major cities; Los
Angeles (Los Santos), San Francisco (San Fierro), Las Vegas
(Las Venturra); each the size of Vice City

• Overhauled graphics engine means crisper quality,
realistic shadowing and reflections, and independent day-
and night-time models

• Fully-rendered interiors

• Restaurants

• Fully operational casino

• The city directly affects your characters progression,
abilities, and even appearance

• Appearances and mentioning of past GTA characters

• Well known voice acting talents

• Increased AI and NPC recording sessions

• Missions will be made to suit your skill level

• Ability to recruit gang members for missions

• Four-person drive-by

• Your actions while not on missions reflect your position
in the storyline

• Ability to rob houses

• You must eat to stay healthy and maintain stamina

• The city reacts to your characters health and appearance


• You can go to the gym to work out

• Improved Manhunt-like targeting system

• New melee combat animations



 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-09-20 12:58 [#01340585]
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Ability to swim

• New weapons, more variety, revamped old weapons

• Improved car handling

• More modes of transportation

• More populated, more detailed, and has more cars,
weapons, challenges, characters, secrets, music, and more
storyline than Vice City. The three cities have their own
individual style; architectural style, vehicle population,
mission types, character’s accents, and the actions of
pedestrians.

• There are new vehicles that can’t even be used in a
town, such as a quad bike, that you can race in the country.
San Fierro is very hilly and there is a big emphasis on
driving in this part of the game.

• Swimming was added because Rockstar knew about the
constant request and was tired of being told it couldn’t
be done. Not a huge emphasis was made on swimming, as the
feature is there for playability.

• In addition to eating, getting fat, and working out at
the gym, another stat feature is cutting your hair. You can
go to the barber and get your haircut how you want. If you
have a bad haircut, pedestrians make fun of you and call you
stupid. If you have a good one then they are impressed.

• The LA vibe is there with the smog, crystalline light,
the thud of a basketball off in a court, the air filled with
hip hop, the blazing sun, the light reflecting off low
riders bouncing with hydraulics.

• Individualized each player’s experience to make the
game as non-linear as possible.

• The draw distance is now twice as much as Vice City in
the urban environments and four times as much in the
countryside.

• The character models are much more detailed than
previously.

• The only loading times in San Andreas are slight pauses
when entering buildings.

• Game will be on a Dual-Layer DVD.



 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-20 12:58 [#01340586]
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copy/paste whole sites onto other sites!!


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-09-20 12:58 [#01340587]
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• First-person has returned!

• When you target someone with a weapon, green will be
displayed if they have full health, yellow at half, and red
if they can be killed in another shot. The auto targeting
will also make much better choices based on threat level.

• Control territories and make money off your property.
Some parts of the game you can take it over yourself, and
for other parts you will need your gang.

• Car jacking has an even more threatening and sinister
vibe than before, because now your gang is involved.

• On the game map Los Santos is only a tiny bit in the
lower right corner.

• You can wear a lot of new clothes.

• Dual wield multiple gun types.

• More mini games.

• Vehicles get rusty and dirty as time goes by.

• Carl's customizations include: Hairstyle, Physique,
Weight, Driving Skills, Clothes, Possessions, Weapon Skills,
Character, Relationships, and Gang.

• The art team has snuck in plenty of special pictures and
messages for fans.

• For the first time in a series the game will adjust its
difficulty if the player becomes stuck. Rockstar assures
that that the adjustments will be minimal and almost
invisible to the players, so the missions won't become a
breeze.

• At least once every couple of days your character has to
eat. If you skip meals he will be come weak, and if you feed
him too much he gets slow and then gets fat. There is a wide
selection of places to eat... so what you eat counts as
well. Strength will affect his punches, but bulk up at the
gym too much and he will loose speed...

• San Andreas has its own version of Hollywood called
Vinewood.

• When the OGF fell from power, the new rival gangs The
Flats and The Ballas moved in.

• Brian Johnson is CJ's 10 year old brother that died in
an accident and the reason he went to Liberty City prison
for five years.

• The Johnson family is in disarray as Carl and Kendal
can't get along with Sweet.



 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-09-20 12:59 [#01340588]
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Providing information for those interested and for those
that are usually too lazy to hunt the info down and
subscribe to sites (etc etc)


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-09-20 12:59 [#01340591]
Points: 27325 Status: Lurker



Frank Tenpenny and Eddie Polaski know CJ from when he was in
juvenile hall, and now they harass him in SA.

• Cesar, a new Latino character wearing baggy slacks, an
undershirt, tattoos, and a buzz cut has been confirmed.

• Old Reece is CJ's old barber that still gives him
haircuts anytime he comes in.
Added July 14, 2004:

• A combine harvester with razor-sharp blades working on a
field.

• A dirt bike (similar to Sanchez from Vice City) riding
through the forest.

• Articulated trucks, including ones with huge detachable
gas canisters.

• A monster truck riding through a valley and a shallow
river bed.

• A jeep overlooking the sunset on a cliff.

• An SUV driving through the meadows.

• An ATV racing on a dirt track.
Added July 23, 2004:

• Carl can attack enemies from behind, after hiding and
sneaking through the shadows.

• Carl's ability to swim and the length of time he can
stay underwater for depends on his fitness and how often he
practices swimming.

• Members of The Orange Grove Families wear green clothes.


• The Ballas gang members wear purple clothes.

• Models will include up to 50% more polygons than Vice
City.

• Bicycles will move forward when the X button is held
down, but tapping it will make the player travel faster.

• Carl can roll to the side during combat on the press of
a button.

• Players can now pivot the camera around the car, in
order to gain a better view.



 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-09-20 13:00 [#01340592]
Points: 27325 Status: Lurker



08/08/2004
LOS SANTOS - The Municipalities
courtesy: GameSpot

"The Grove" - Los Santos' South Central, where CJ and the
Gang resides. The streets are dirty and the area is really
poor.
"Vinewood" - Los Santos' Version of the Hollywood Hills
area. Includes in-game replicas of Beverly Hills and
Bel-Air. The streets are luxurious and are lined with
expensive secenery.
"Rodeo" - The shopping district down "Wilshire Boulevard"
and "Rodeo Drive" in Beverly Hills/"Vinewood". Its old
fashioned, filthy rich, and the streets are of cobblestone
style.
"Downtown" - Downtown Los Santos. Towering Skyscrapers and
narrow streets run along this part of town. There is a
metrorail/train confirmed called the "Brown Streak" that
takes you around Los Santos, yes, ALL OF LOS SANTOS. The
Main Station is in Downtown, though.
"The Beach" - Los Santos' representation of Venice Beach &
Santa Monica Beach. Swimming is confirmed, and it makes
DRIV3R's look like something out of Super Nintendo.
"Freeways" - Los Santos' Massive Interstate Highway &
Thruway System that stretches all over the city and beyond.
STREET NAMES HAVE BEEN CONFIRMED FOR NAVIGATION.



 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-09-20 13:01 [#01340593]
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swimming information

Swim by using the analogue stick and tapping X

CJ treads water by default

Pressing up on the analogue stick makes CXJ swim
breaststroke

Pressing Up, and holding X makes CJ swim Freestyle (front
crawl). This however is limited, and relies on stamina,
similar to running on land.

Pressing O allows you to dive underwater. When underwater,
you can press X to swim around and look at marine life etc.


You have an Oxygen meter, a "Breath-O-Meter" while
underwater, to let you know when you need to resurface for
air.

Lighting effects differ in water, depending on its depth.

Water depth varies on the time of day, place and the
weather.

Looking at building from underwater makes them look
different too. It may offer secret bonuses.

You can escape from your car if you drive it into water.

You can 'jack' moving boats.

Wave physics have changed. In a storm, the waves are choppy.
Boats react differently to different waves.

Other people can swim as well.



 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-09-20 13:03 [#01340595]
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robbery

You will not neccessarily earn money after a mission

Robbery is an 'R3' mission. When in a moving truck, you
press R3 to start a robbery side-mission.

Robberies only take place at night

You can steal things like a VCR or TV to sell.

When you wear a ski-mask or a balaclava you go into
'sneaking mode' automatically, which allows you to move more
quietly.

There will be a noise-meter to show you if you are making
too much noise.

New audio techonology, so that if you are eavesdropping,
sound will not be as loud. In high-speed chases, sound may
be deafening.

Silenced weapons.



 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-09-20 13:04 [#01340598]
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Official Site Update:

Official site(Refresh if not working)

Movie Trailers (click on target symbols for access):

- East Los Santos > Los Santos Vagos
- East Los Santos > Basketball
- Ganton > Grove Street Families
- Varrios Los Aztecas (right of City Hall)
- Beach Party (south east near Verona Beach)

Sound-clips (click on target symbols for access):

- Mulholland > Madd Dogg's Mansion
- Ganton > B-Dup's House

New information:

- Map of Los Santos
- Two new apparell stores: Didier Sachs & Victim
- Gang names: Los Santos Vagos, Grove Street Families,
Ballas & Varrios Los Aztecas
- New Strip Club called the "Pig Pen Strip Club"
- Los Santos Radio Personalities include: Madd Dogg &
possibly B-Dup
- New Mall called the "Verona Mall"
- Sound clip which talks of a "canine unit".


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-09-20 13:05 [#01340599]
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New/Revised Information
The Golden Gate Bridge representation in San Fierro is known
as the "Garden Bridge", not the "Gant Bridge" as originally
thought.
Three new missions are discussed. We'll have them on the
Missions page soon.
Four Radio Stations are confirmed. Flash FM, SF-UR, Hit
Radio and K-Jah West FM

Car modification is definitely in, with plenty of parts
available to buy at the Transfender Garage:
Exhausts
Front & Rear Bumpers
Wings
Wheels
Roof
Spoiler
Prices for each part vary, but expect to pay $970 for a
standard front bumper upgrade
Holding the X and Circle buttons will activate the nitro,
the only car customisation option which affects performance


A visit to the Cobra Martial Arts Dojo will provide CJ with
the ability to learn new martial arts moves. One word of
caution, learning such moves, like the Drop Heel Kick, will
overwrite any moves learned at other gyms.
Creating a combination of techniques like martial arts and
streetfighting will be key to success in combat.

Cesar will appear in San Fierro, and seems to be friendly
with CJ. Expect to be stealing cars from places like Otto's
Autos with Cesar.



 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-09-20 13:07 [#01340600]
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What you can steal and carry from home robberies depends on
your physical fitness and strength you've accumulated in the
gym.
When selling stolen goods to the fence, you can negotiate
the price.
You can jack the tram in San Fierro. Known for a while
There are ruins from the 1989 earthquake in San Fierro.
The 'Lombard Road' and 'Trans-America tower' are in the
game.
When other pedestrians break the law, the police chases
after them and helicopters can even get involved. You can
get hurt from these chases and even die.
You can talk to pedestrians with dialouge boxes ala RPG
game.
Climbing is said to be like in Tony Hawks Underground video
game.
The article hints toward stealing trains and skateboards in
the game.
The small town of Angel Pine is the size of two Vice City
blocks.
There does not seem to be a physical limit as to how high
you can fly.
Magazine editors flew for minutes in a straight line without
seeing a town.
CJ's mobile will help you get back on track if you get lost.
Not sure how this will function.
The complete day (24 hours) finishes in 24 minutes. 1 minute
= 1 hour in game.
Health can be viewed in the stats menu.
The average gamer playing the game straight through with a
strategy guide would be playing for ~130-150hrs. Known and
now confirmed again.
It took the magazine editors 10 minutes in a plane and on
the ground to find something once leaving Mount Chiliad.
The main cities have airports with vehicles to drive.
The necessity to eat will be displayed in either a bar on
the screen or text appearing. It was undecided at the time
of writing.
Rockstar is still to decide wether the game will be open
from the start or not.

The info comes with the latest issue of EGM, who bagged a 6
page exclusive preview. Some new details were released:

There is a casino called "The V-Rock Casino", based on the
Hard Rock Cafe.
Other casinos include: Caligula's Palace, the Visage,
Pirates in Men's pants, and the Pink Swan, all modeled after
their real life co


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-09-20 13:08 [#01340601]
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....continued

real life counterparts in Las Vegas
The famous neonlight cowboy in Vegas is also featured, but
it is Avery Carrington instead (Character from Vice City).
There is a huge Candy Suxxx figure on one of the buildings.

You can now gamble in the casinos, you wont be able to acess
all of them, but Rockstar claims there will be a lot for you
to visit.
You can play "tons" of casino games, including blackjack,
craps, slots, roulette, video poker, and wheel of fortune.
Being a high roller will also help you gain respect.
There will be drunken Elvis Impersonators! Rockstar has also
paid great attention to detail inside of the casinos.


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-09-20 13:10 [#01340604]
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I heard that it takes forever to get to the top. Maybe
something like 10 minutes in real life or some shit.


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-09-20 13:46 [#01340639]
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this game is going to consume peoples lives



 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-09-20 13:59 [#01340653]
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yep, and we're gonna love every minute of it.


 

offline Erronous from Netherlands, The on 2004-09-20 14:02 [#01340658]
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i'm afraid it's gonna be a lot 'more of the same'.... how is
it going to be different? (apart from being bigger.... and
including a mountain blabla...)


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-09-20 14:05 [#01340661]
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For example the character interaction. As stated before by
my copy and paste, you can actually stalk a character and
watch their lives. As they goto work and meet with other
peds and do activities (ie. dancing).

Flashing gangsigns might make you gain respect and some peds
will join you.

There are alot of new things that are implimented.


 

offline Aesthetics from the IDM Kiosk on 2004-09-20 14:35 [#01340700]
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twhy not keeping all of this in the other San Andreas topic

most of what you posted is already in the other ;)


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-09-20 14:40 [#01340706]
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Posting for points yo!

I don't think that there is anyone looking forward to this
game more than the Virginpusher that we know and love :)


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-09-20 14:50 [#01340727]
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:D!

True indeed! I have been both posting here and at the IGN
GTA:SA boards.


 

offline Aesthetics from the IDM Kiosk on 2004-09-20 15:01 [#01340753]
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more info

the release date in Holland should be october 22 but I
can´t believe that we will get it sooner than the US or
Japan for example


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-09-20 15:38 [#01340783]
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I think it will ofcourse have many same elements,, but how
can it not? this is a silly argument.... people that enjoy
this game will obviously love it, same as any other game
that has a 2nd or 3rd or 4th and so on edition to its
titles.... (ie: silent hill 1, 2, 3 and 4 or any other
game), it just depends on how much you like it.. me
personally am probably going to love this game and it will
keep me company when my girlfriend isnt around.

:0)


 

offline Spacecadet on 2004-09-20 19:32 [#01340938]
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man, it's almost real life, it's kinda scary where GTA could
be in 10 years


 

offline Aesthetics from the IDM Kiosk on 2004-09-20 19:46 [#01340942]
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imagine 50 years, when you are a grandfather!


 

offline brokephones from Londontario on 2004-09-21 05:50 [#01341128]
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You could have just posted a link to the preview instead of
posting it all. I will purchase this game the day it comes
out.


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-09-21 08:51 [#01341261]
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No, no i couldnt. I was sitting here wanking profusely to my
copy and paste orgy


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-09-21 12:10 [#01341503]
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You're just trying to get into the exclusive ''thoughest
posters'' club. I'm onto you...

This game just sounds like TOO much fun. I can't imagine
them fitting all of this on a Playstation 2 DVD. And yet,
they have no reason to lie, nor would that do them any good
in the long run. So it's all true.

Does the game support custom soundtracks? I have a harddrive
on my PS2, and that thing NEVER gets utilized... too few
people have it, I guess. The developers don't want to waste
their time on features only 2% of us can use.


 

offline fungusman from Monster Island on 2004-09-21 12:23 [#01341511]
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I bet you life is like Vice city part 20 and we don't even
know it.


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-09-21 13:03 [#01341539]
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DUDE! Ive been reading all this stuff about the game and
read some shit about it months ago and was BLOWN the fuck
away.... this game will be amazing.. the other two blew me
away when they came out but this one seems to be miles away
from it for some reasons... it feels weird to think about
because its a whole new little world to explore.. sights to
see... etc etc.. gonna be amazing.


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-09-21 21:38 [#01341864]
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i cant believe things have gone this far


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2004-09-21 22:03 [#01341880]
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that was a pretty sweet feature with GTA on the PC.
listening to my own toons in some car i jacked.

The DVD will be Dual Layer. i don't know if that's standard
with PS2 games.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2004-09-21 22:07 [#01341883]
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its becoming like playing with dolls action figures.
Dressing them up, fixing their hair, feeding them, getting a
little play house for them, getting the car and all the
accesories.

in a lot of ways it's just like a virtual-reality Ken doll
with an extra helping of violence.


 


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