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It's just a kazoo / panlid / dusbin setup. Richard is like my best mate in the whole world and he told me to keep it quiet, but then he had bumsex with my nan, so i don't give a fuck anymore. |
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WTF !!! didn't he use mega-ultra-selfmade-synth and effect boxes he made out of shoebox and phone wire??!! have i been spoiled for sooooo long??!!!! could it be that he used common/cheap equipment like you and me and every techno-boy from that era... i'm sooo disapointed .......... |
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Just a post to correct my previous errors. First thinking selected ambient works II was made with a cs80 then thought it was made with a prophet 3000 since i got some very similar sounds out of it. But i was all wrong.. It's a Yamaha SY99 Hope this post brings someone pleasure. |
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'born to be alive' wasn't written by the village people. thats for sure. |
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It was so long since I last saw this that I forgot all about that post and nearly posted the same thing again. |
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I find the DX7 thing a bit hard to beleive, but I am almost positive on the matrix 1000. I have a matrix 6, which is pretty much the exact same architecture, only you can edit the presets without needing a computer. It has some of the same kind of sounds. |
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He *might* have done some circuit bending, but don't believe anything you hear from his interviews. |
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hahahaha it's not a dx7 (the sy99 takes fm much further) or matrix 1000, are you deaf? It's the Yamaha SY99 He made SAW2 completely on that synth, inc effects etc. No external equipment used at all. |
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Are you on crack? I have a couple presets on the matrxi 6 that sound near exact to the sounds used on mdv. I doubt it was only the sy99. |
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yes i am sure near exact for deaf people maybe, but the matrix1000 sounds very very different to me i owned one and with the sy99 i don't just get close, i get the EXACT 100% same sounds! inc effects, microtuning etc etc it's the SY99 trust me |
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ah you said matrix6 sorry but anyhow it's clear it's not made by an analogue synth. most sounds are layered rom waves filtered through the sy99 digital filter set at 12db. other sounds are fm sounds made by the afm part of the synth. other things are effects from the spx1000 of which there are 2 (very similar) in the sy99. |
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he used a yamaha cs5 on saw 1 |
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SAW1 is much better |
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how can you compare!!!??? |
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Dude, by saying without a shadow of a doubt that you know for a fact that it is that synthesizer based off of sounds, and I am saying I know for a fact that it another synthesizer based off of sounds, but neither of us have concrete proof, then you are spinning in circles. The only thing that could be accomplished is one or both of us looks like a complete idiot. Since I am not going to say anything more, chances are that will be you. Don't argue anything unless you have seen it with your eyes. |
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fine, name the track you want to remake we'll both try and i'll succeed and you'll fail easy as that |
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or easyer yet, just name a sound in a track on saw2 that you think was made with a matrix 6 and i'll tell you how that sound was made on the sy99 |
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and btw i'm not saying some sounds are similar or something like that. i'm saying the entire album saw2 was made with the sy99 every single sound, every single effect, and it's highly likely he did the sequencing on it too but i can't prove the sequencing part offcourse |
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Well said. In my experience, when people claim to recognise something as definately100% being synth x, the vast majority of the time, they're wrong. There aren't actually an awful lot of sounds that can't be produced on more than one synth. I'm not saying all synths can make all sounds- of course they can't, just that there's often a lot of cross over between the palettes. Can someone dig up the photo of the SAW2 synth (the one with the credits engraved on the back) and settle this? Ta. |
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Thats a Korg MS10. He sold it on an online auction mid last year as a matter of fact. |
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Yamaha CS-5 |
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recordbag i know what you mean. i made mistakes in the future, here in this thread when i started it over a year ago. thinking it was a cs80 then thinking it was a prophet 3000. but i got similar "base" sounds out of them (more the prophet 3000 than the cs80 lol) but this time i'm not talking about "base" sounds. i'm talking about when i'm playing the SY99 including microtuning and reverb and delay, it sounds not just very similar, it sounds exactly thesame! and i'm on audiophile speakers here and know a thing or 2 about synths, been playing with synths for about 12 years now. also when i say it was the sy99 i mean it. it wasn't the sy77 or the tg77 or the sy85, it was the sy99. it is also the only synth that has both fm, rom sounds, sampler, lowpass filters, and effects, and microtuning etc. there weren't that many synths at that time he could've made it on. and not only this but when i make thesame sounds it sounds 100% thesame including effects. so this shouldn't be really an issue of he thinks it this or that synth, i'm simply telling you guys that this is the synth aphex twin used to make saw2, end of story. sure this will make a few people happy:) |
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Ah! You were correct! |
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Are you sure they didn't just make some of those rom waves with the same analogue synthesizers? |
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Post a sample then |
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lol i ment i made mistakes in the past hehe things get confusing sometimes ;p |
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those rom waves are allmost all of real instruments, like the ones you hear on saw2. layer 2 or more rom waves, long envelopes, 12db lowpass over them, reverb-delay, microtuning on some, and you have many of the pads used. will post samples later this week |
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I don't even think this is even worth arguing over, let alone posting samples. Some sound advice for any interneting is to not care when people dissagree with you. |
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well done you've emulated the synths in some obscure, ancient record. what is the point? what a load of cock, trying your best to copy someone. stupid aphex twin fans. |
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but anyhow this is a great synth more ppl should use. wendy carlos uses a sy77 which is thesame except for different keyboard, no sample ram, and different effects. and brian eno also uses either a sy/tg77 or sy99, not sure which. you can actually hear thesame rom waves used with sometimes almost exact same melodies as saw2 by brian eno, only not filtered and layered. still sounds good though |
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SAWII was done in a Casio SK1. Fact. |
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thanks for sharing! |
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JAroen, i've not "emulated" anything, guess you don't know the meaning of the word emulating. And why do you asume i'm doing my best to copy aphex?? because i'm not, have no plans to make saw3 or anything similar. however after hearing the sounds on saw2 i can hear what else is possible with the synth that made those sounds. this interests me both as a sounddesigner and as an artist. this does not mean i wish to make anything similar to saw2 i just was clear to me that thesame synth would be an amazing instrument for me. please think before you start posting such hatefull messages? |
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I am not disputing the fact that its a great synthesizer. I love the SY synthesizers. But I would never bank on something I haven't seen with my own eyes. Doesn't matter how much you are convinced. For all you know tomorrow, a video could pop up on youtube that shows him composing it with a juno 6 or a matrix 12 and then you end up looking like a dork. |
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EA-1 wasn't it? |
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post the samples dude |
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No, wait... It HAS TO BE a PT1! Fact. And maybe some reverb... |
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Actually, I heard he did it on a dot matrix printer. |
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The EA1 was only used for cowbell! |
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fine this is all going nowhere. i thought i was doing you guys a favour lol i'll shut up and post some samples in about a week or so. have nothing hooked up to my puter now, just rebuilding my studio again after having sold it all about half a year ago (wanted to quit this obsession but can't) |
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so, let me get this straight, you've spent countless hours searching for a synth that sounds exactly like saw 2? since you don't have some sort of confirmation from the man himself, this is obviously what you've been doing. then my point is: why not jizz out some interesting sounds with whatever synth you have lying around instead of trying to selected ambient works. oh look lolz rofl <3<3 now i know which synth he used, my life is complete, i've done my duty serving mankind and will revel in eternal glory. guess you don't know the meaning of the word pointless. i need tranquilizers. |
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get off the internet lol |
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i have a lock of richards hair, so :P |
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if you divide 114 by 44.1 (khz) and then times 48 (khz) you get 124 bpm the speed of one of the analord 10 tracks. only then the background voices don't sound natural anymore... this is not standard 4 to the floor with some drone synth. this is some very special drone synth imho :) i'm even tempted to say cs80 again ghehhe dude, you're a fucking nutcase. wil je er over praten? glaasje water misschien? |
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jaroen, you're an idiot. you said "emulated the synths in some obscure ancient record" origionally, which is wrong as you cannot emulate a synth with thesame synth, you can emulate another synth but not thesame synth. and now try twisting your own word to make it appear you said "emulate selected ambient works" which would be the correct use of the word emulate which shows even idiots can still learn. about it being pointless to search for a synth used on one of your favorite records, i don't think so, but even if it were why should you care i will do with my time as i please. but i think to hear a synth or sound and like it and want to do new things with such sounds is how most of us got into music. love for music, and i really love saw2. i have made much music with many synths but allways kept wondering what saw2 was made with as it sounds so different from other music. to make a long story short when starting up my studio again past weeks i got a tg77 and recognised it right away and understood saw2 must have been made with a sy99, sold the tg77 got the sy99 and am very happy now, making some unique sounds and will be my main synth for a long time, so i got a lot out of it and it was far from pointless to me. |
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i wonder waht the background noise is in Bwoon Dub??? |
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mdv=afx |
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Well, if SAW 2 was done on nothing but the sy99, you should certainly be able to do some great tracks with it. |
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a microphone |
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This gentleman uses nothing but a sy99, for most of his stuff, either. |
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