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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2007-01-30 06:11 [#02041111]
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Sir, you have come to this website with less than 75 posts over the course of 2 years, and acted arrogant and argumentative. Grounds for getting flamed in practically any messageboard. Whatever you want to prove, at least be adult enought to take your well deserved bitch slaps like someone who has reached puberty.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2007-01-30 06:13 [#02041112]
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Awww. Don't go picking on the synthesizer.
I really do like the SY series synthesizers, they are underrated. I just think this MDV character has bad delivery.
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mdv
from Zwolle (Netherlands, The) on 2007-01-30 06:19 [#02041115]
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yeah the sy99 seems to be mostly used for lazy newage these days. but good news is they're well available and cheap, got mine for 425 euro perfect condition with flightcase.
and taxidermist, what did i do wrong with delivery? justed wanted to correct my earlyer posts here, didn't want anybody to go looking for the synth used to make saw2 and stumble upon my old posts and think it's a cs80 or prophet3000.
as far as jaroen "flaming" i couldnt't care less
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pigster
from melbs on 2007-01-30 06:22 [#02041118]
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while on the subject of synths richard d james used for albums..
i've compared the front cover of drukqs to various pictures on the internet, and i (yes, me pigster) have concluded that drukqs was made using a piano.
you heard it hear from me first, so even though i'm not really saying asking for any real praise, i am kind of half expecting you all to tell me how awesome i am.
proof!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-30 06:24 [#02041121]
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Wow, I didn't realise that they were that cheap, I was thinking more in the region of 700 euros for a mint condition one- that's pretty sweet.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2007-01-30 06:25 [#02041122]
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Its just a bit argumentative. You are calling everyone who dissagrees with you wrong, without providing anything more than your word for evidence. And you haven't even put in enough time here to be able to use your credability as leverage in your end of the discussion. Its just kind of disrespectfull and arogant, pardon my spelling.
Seriously. I don't see digital filters making many of the pads on Saw 2. Its 12db, I agree with you there, but they don't have the same stranglehold on the audio as digital filters of that era seems to.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2007-01-30 06:26 [#02041123]
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You can get them in canada even cheaper.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2007-01-30 06:27 [#02041124]
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Yeah, he bought a roland midi grand for that album.
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pigster
from melbs on 2007-01-30 06:27 [#02041125]
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i wish i had money to even consider looking at prices of synths and gear. but you know me. i have an ass, and i plan on spending abit more of life sitting it, as opposed to working for the moneys.
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mdv
from Zwolle (Netherlands, The) on 2007-01-30 06:31 [#02041126]
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oh but the sy99 has great filters. probably indeed the best for that time.
resonance isn't that convincing, or atleast very different from an analogue filter, but without selfoscilating they're great.
didn't mean to come off as arrogant (and don't think i'm an arrogant person in life) but am pretty convinced of me being right here :)
but indeed pretty pointless to go on right now about why it is the sy99 on saw2, i'll post samples in a week or so so you can judge with your ears.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2007-01-30 06:34 [#02041128]
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Perhaps. Not saying the filters will sound bad. Just saying the modelling technology back then (or now for that matter) is really sufficient to give that kind of a warm glow.
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mdv
from Zwolle (Netherlands, The) on 2007-01-30 06:39 [#02041129]
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yes i know what you mean i was really surprised too! but i think it's probably the flaws that actually make it so alive.
i had a prophet 3000 and loaded it with simial orchestral samples and put it through the analogue filters at 12db/oct but it was less "alive / organic" then when i do this on the sy99.
this is about thesame voice structure, prophet 3000 having analogue filters per voice, sy999 having digital filters per voice.
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mdv
from Zwolle (Netherlands, The) on 2007-01-30 06:40 [#02041130]
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lol sy999
i need some sleep night night
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pigster
from melbs on 2007-01-30 06:40 [#02041131]
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do post samples when you have things set up. this is the.. 3rd? synth you're 100% certain rdj used for saw2.
itd be interesting if you could post mp3s of all 3 synths sounding like saw2, you know.. for a laugh.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2007-01-30 06:45 [#02041132]
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'degrees of freedom'
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-01-30 10:41 [#02041259]
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mdv, you own the rare prophet 3000? I might want to buy it form you soon. Are you in the usa?
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mdv
from Zwolle (Netherlands, The) on 2007-01-30 10:59 [#02041272]
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I had 2 of them but allready sold them both a while ago sorry.
Try a post in analogue heaven, that's how i found them. (it's got analogue filters and is called a prophet so it's not completely ot there :)
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mdv
from Zwolle (Netherlands, The) on 2007-01-30 11:02 [#02041274]
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btw make sure you get a good one and read up on it first, don't want trouble with it winecountry will charge you a fortune to fix them if they even can.
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mdv
from Zwolle (Netherlands, The) on 2007-01-30 11:09 [#02041290]
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hey and you could try winecountry directly they might have one for sale http://www.winecountrysequential.com/page8.html
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OK
on 2007-01-30 12:24 [#02041353]
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it is a known fact that he used reaktor for saw II, then traveled back in time and released the record.
the thing still sounds futuristic even tho, he´s probably recording it as we speak.
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HmND
from your mom (Israel) on 2007-01-30 13:09 [#02041373]
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Maybe instead of arguing pointlessly, we should just sit, relax, turn on SAW II and smoke a joint.
Or a peace pipe, whatever you want. Just shut up already and enjoy good music instead of ruining it with your negative moods, idiots.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-01-30 21:22 [#02041665]
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mdv, Ive had a few people tell me the p 3000's stock sound disks are pretty much exactly like most of the sounds on Saw2. Like the lichen pad and the orchestral oboes. etc. With minor tweaking. Maybe he sent it through amps too. I think the reverb is digital on saw2. It sounds a bit grainy. What is the p3 selling for, btw.? Im curious to hear one.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-01-30 21:28 [#02041666]
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Who are you on AH mdv?
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mdv
from Zwolle (Netherlands, The) on 2007-01-30 22:51 [#02041693]
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Yes the p3000's sounds are indeed very similar. not stock but after you tweak the envelopes and filters and layer them. but i guess more sounds are similar. many of the pad sounds are orchestral sounds and things like flutes layered, enveloped and filtered. i might be the one responsible for some people thinking the p3000 was used for saw2, atleast on synthforum (my nickname there is mdv too). although i got the suggestion it was used for saw2 myself on analogue heaven.
i was convinced for a while he used the p3000 for some of the sounds on saw2 but used it for basic sounds then put through some magic gear or something. but apparently not the case, i don't have to put anything through magic gear with the sy99, it just sounds exactly thesame as on saw2.
can't remember what i bought and sold the p3000 for, but it's expensive and only so because it's rare imho, so not the best buy you can do.
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mdv
from Zwolle (Netherlands, The) on 2007-01-30 22:52 [#02041695]
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oh analoge heaven you said lol sorry misread it as synthforum somehow. i'm mdevelde_laptop at hotmail.com on ah, but rarely post there.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-01-30 23:27 [#02041698]
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i dunno, the specs of that sampler is impressive. sci Analogue filter, env, amp. Nice mod matrix. Great user interface.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-01-30 23:29 [#02041699]
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I know, Post a topic on AH regarding your new find. Id be interested to hear some replies from people. Xltronic is not the place for this stuff.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-01-30 23:39 [#02041706]
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oh, I know you now. You started that internet company. You were going to go traveling and sold your gear.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-01-30 23:45 [#02041707]
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should I remind you of your post on AH on Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:20:56 +0100 . Will you be changing your mind soon?
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2007-01-31 05:44 [#02041826]
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i'm pretty sure there are sounds made with the ms-20 on sawII, i could give audio exemples but i can't be arsed for now
there's many distorted percussive sounds and there is also one track which has this weird noise drone/pad that is 100% ms-20
disc 2 track 10 i think the background sound that is there throughout the whole track, detuned vco's with a bit of fm + filtering, the timbre is exactly the same with my ms20
the trick is to gently play with the tuning of the second vco to bring it in and off of tune, that's what gives the kind of elastic, slowing/accelrating pitch which ressemble digital fm sound
the percussion in radiator also i'm pretty convinced it's just white noise and filtering with the ms20
all imo of course !
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zero-cool
on 2007-03-13 04:38 [#02061638]
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well update/bump
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Aktium
from cleveland (United States) on 2007-03-13 10:32 [#02061802]
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ha, i thought you ment the movie
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2021-05-20 17:51 [#02608650]
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i think the week has passed by now so wheres the samples promised?
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-22 20:48 [#02608683]
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lots of the tracks on this were slowed down on tape bear that in mind when you listen next, it will change how you hear it
i haven't tried speeding it up yet because frankly realising that changed my perception of it enough... i don't wanna fiddle to hear how they were made.
(Also trax like Pancake Lizard ... they're slowed down)
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-22 20:58 [#02608684]
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i honestly can't beleive i listened to them for so many years and didn't realise, haven't seen anyone else say it either...
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2021-05-22 21:00 [#02608686]
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Yamaha Cs5 filter
He wrote the liner notes on his Cs5 and sold it on vemia, some prick tried to sell it recently on eBay for 20grand, didn't hit the reserve price. Greedy fucks
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-05-22 21:11 [#02608689]
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it looked like they were testing how much it would sell 4 tbh, didnt it go over 10k anyway? not sure when they think Aphex stocks will be higher than they were right then
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