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offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-09-10 22:26 [#01331607]
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Listen to his new, not-as-good-as-it-used-to-be ''Smile'' In streaming form, only takes a second to
sign up. Or just download it somewhere.

My initial reaction upon hearing his new ''Heroes and
Villians'' a couple of weeks ago was... surprise. As
in, ''I'm surprised Brian is collaborating with OZZY
OSBOURNE of all people! Wacky''. But no, that's just Brian's
62 year old vocal chords struggling with material that was
written for a younger, more vital voice.

The backing tracks are completely re-recorded with his 2004
band... and they're done faithfully. At times, it sounds
like they've just cleaned up the original tapes. Very
familiar. Percussion, horn sections, pianos, they all sound
pretty much like they always have, albeit a lot cleaner.
Good job on that part. I've really got no complaints... I
was worried they'd fuck about with the arrangements, make
them more modern... but no, they're solid.

But I can not enjoy his ''new voice'' in this context... he
can still hold his own in concert, and with new material,
but still, he's just a shadow of his former self, and I'm so
used to hearing the nearly four decade old takes with his
beautiful young voice... not this one. I also don't like the
backing vocals as much as the original Beach Boys', they
lack the same punch. Maybe somebody else will appreciate
the, er, extra grit in the vocals, but I can't. It's still
got soul... but at one point, it had soul AND beauty to
burn.

What do you think? ''Wonderful'' was (still is) two of my
favorite minutes in the history of recorded sound,
incomplete or not...


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-09-10 22:30 [#01331611]
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not happy. ages ago ever since he said he was going to
release smile i'd been really looking forward to it smiley
smile being my favourite beach boys album. then about 2
months ago he then decided to tell the world that he's
decided to re-record the whole thing. what a bastard!

if you wanna hear fucked up, listen to "still i dream of
it", a demo he recorded circa 1974 that he decided in his
infinite wisdom to put on a solo album. can't remember the
name of it but it's very short and it also has a couple of
re-recorded tracks, one being do it again which surprisingly
sounds pretty good.


 

offline x0hx from Lysdexia (United States) on 2004-09-10 22:31 [#01331613]
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Brian Wilson??
BRIAN WILSON!!!!
I was named after that fuck.
Sad. That day in somber, brisk 1978 when all my dad could
think of was an artist's name on the radio @ the hospital.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-09-10 22:34 [#01331617]
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the album is "i just wasn't made for these times" from
1995.

another great track from another solo album from 1988 is the
last track "meet me in my dreams tonight" a standout track
from an average album.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-09-10 22:44 [#01331625]
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He just wasn't made for these times. I listened to his
latest solo album a while ago, and it was merely OK. I
haven't heard much of his previous solo efforts, just a
track here or there. I know I have nearly everything on a
data CD somewhere.

I was just looking at the track listing for ''I Just Wasn't
Made for these Times''... looks pretty interesting. I think
the original Caroline No is a superhuman vocal performance,
I want to hear that other version now.

I haven't heard the 2004 ''Surf's Up'' yet... the website
won't let me for some reason, and I haven't dug it up
anywhere else... can anybody tell me what it's like?


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2004-09-10 23:17 [#01331633]
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"he just wasn't made for these times". you can say that
again. too bad really, as sunflower and smiley smile are two
of my favorite albums ever.
as for the 2004 surfs up, i haven't heard that, although i'd
like to. i always felt that was a weak album on its own and
works better doubled up with sunflower, because its got some
really dated social/economic commentary on it that sort of
weighs down some of the cooler guitar and vocal effects and
relatively strong songs on the album.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-09-11 15:00 [#01332151]
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The ''album'' was always very flawed, but the best stuff on
it was masterful. And the old coot had to go and spoil those
shining moments with his slurred croak.

Sunflower is superb. Great, straightforward songwriting...
but I really wish he'd kept on going completely apeshit with
the kooky ideas. They date, but that's just a fact of life,
time is irrelevent. Most of the music I'm listening to now
are going to date, and badly, doesn't mean a thing.

Wild Honey, Surf's Up... lots of great albums that somehow
get totally overlooked. I guess too many people associate
them with Full House and Kokomo... or if they're slightly
more curious, often they're still not willing to dig deeper
than Pet Sounds.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-09-27 09:41 [#01345469]
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ok i take it all back , this is GREAT


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2004-09-27 10:00 [#01345500]
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Well I heard it was fantastic. I guess I'll have to listen
to it myself.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-09-27 10:15 [#01345534]
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He was on his official messageboard a few days ago, and got
in a little fight with someone there that dissed the new
Smile. He's nothing if not passionate.

His voice still prevents me from really enjoying this... he
did do a great job with the arranging and updating of the
old material, but that one little aesthetic hangup is too
much for me to take. I've got my own personal Smile mix that
makes me happy.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-09-27 10:22 [#01345544]
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his voice sounds fine to me, more distinguished through age
:) i'll be buying a vinyl copy if/when it appears. i love
the idea of 3 suites of music. i wonder where the idea for
abbey road came from...


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2004-09-27 11:00 [#01345575]
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"Hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee
My name is Brian and I'm the man
I write hit songs with a wave of my hand
Songs of surf and sun and sand
I make great music with my band
Songs you dance to and songs of joy
I'm the original Beach Boy

Everybody's gone surfin' Surfin USA

All the songs I used to write
Talked about girls who weren't too bright
Round round get around I got around
What I was lookin' for I never found
As time goes on I've seen the light
Intelligent chicks are dynamite

When I grow up to be man
Giddy-up giddy-up 409

Now some guys like the flashy types
And some guys dig the ugly types
I'm no different from the rest
I love hips and legs and breasts
But strictly on a higher plane
What really turns me on's her brain

Smart girls, talkin' 'bout smart girls
Sexy legs with high IQs
Smart girls, I love the smart girls
You brainy babes with your attitudes

Smart smart smart smart girls

Did I love you little surfer girl
Or was it just your bod and long blonde curls
Fun fun fun was all we heard
Cruisin' in her daddy's thunderbird
ba ba ba ba barbara ann
She ran away with another man

This is the worst trip
Help me, Rhonda
Get her out of my heart

Rhonda helped helped, helped me for a while
Not much going on behind her smile
I wanna hot hot, massive stimulation
Women with more imagination
Yeah smart girls are my inspiration
Given me
Good good good good vibrations

Wouldn't it be nice
if they gave PHDs
For strokin' me with hypotheses
Gimme a gal who teaches school
Who's not afraid to break the rules
Women doctors and lawyers, too
Can really make a man out of you

Smart girls, talkin' 'bout smart girls
Sexy legs with high IQs
Smart girls, I love the smart girls
You brainy babes with your attitudes

Smart smart smart smart girls

Smart girls
Wish they all could be
Smart girls
Rhyme in poetry
A clever head is a real turn-on
You bright, you brainy amazons
Authors, scientists, and architechts
Sultry babes with intellect


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2004-09-27 11:00 [#01345576]
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Don't worry baby
Everything will turn out

God only knows what I'd be
Without smart girls
hip hop and harmony
I'm wiser now, I know where it's at
Intelligence is an aphrodisiac
So if you're seekin' that perfect mate
Listen to Brian, beauty's great but

Smart girls, talkin' 'bout smart girls
Sexy legs with high IQs
Smart girls, I love the smart girls
You brainy babes with your attitudes

Big brains are awesome, dude

Smart smart smart smart girls

Smart girls, talkin' 'bout smart girls
Sexy legs with high IQs
Smart girls, I love the smart girls
You brainy babes with your attitudes

I wanna congratulate you
You were just fine"

-- Brian Wilson: "Smart Girls"


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-09-29 10:31 [#01347766]
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an interesting read. i can't help but agree, this is an amazing
record. you're missing out.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-09-29 11:02 [#01347805]
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No, I've heard the original material in many many different
forms, I've got a good understanding of the material and the
history of it, and I've given the new one enough run
throughs to get used to it and settle in. It's still a fine
album and they did a good job, it deserves accolades, but
it's not for me. I've never said he outright ruined it or
anything, or it's not a good effort. I don't like his voice
and there's many many instances here where I prefer some of
the older renditions. It's not ''missing out'', it's having
a differing opinion than Brian (who says this is a 10 album
an Pet Sounds is a 7) or Rolling Stone or Pitchfork. If I'm
going to be swayed, somebody from Pitchfork is not going to
be the person to do it. :-p


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2004-09-29 11:04 [#01347809]
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after hearing this, i'm going to agree with you on that. i
really prefer his voice from decades ago over what its
become now. this is a good album, but thats all it is to me.


 

offline Vin3islih from United Kingdom on 2004-09-29 13:15 [#01348025]
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Most of the reviews have been pretty unanimous.. all very
positive and I tend to agree.. Of course Brian's voice isn't
as good as it was when he was 24- he's done enough drugs and
smoked enough herbal extracts of all varieties over the
years to see to that. The fact he can sing at all right now
is something. All that said, this Smile is quite an
accomplishment and the only thing I don't like as much about
it are the leads by Brian- but I think I can live with
that....but he sounds better than for a while, especially
his croaky 70's voice.

In my opinion all the instrumental tracks are as good or
surpass the originals and all the complicated backing vocals
are on a par with the originals. The 'finished' songs sound
amazing and makes you wonder how things would have turned
out had he finished the old 60's version.


 

offline iLoveIDM from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-09-29 13:42 [#01348084]
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this sounds ace, his voice is wobbly because of the low
bitrate


 

offline iLoveIDM from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-09-29 13:55 [#01348101]
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surf's up is such a beautiful song :)


 


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