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from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-06 15:03 [#01326825]
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from "Captain Beefheart", a biography by Mike Barnes:
Among the strange stories associated with the recording of Trout Mask Replica, two of the most notorious are actually true. Van Vliet apparently asked for a tree surgeon to come round to the house to check the trees, as he felt that the music the group were producin in rehearsels might frighten or damage them and the one nearest the kitchen might fall on the house.
This incident did actually take place. After being astonished to receive a list of expenses including $800 for a tree surgeon, Herb Cohen talked the matter over with Van Vliet. “I felt it was a bit extraneous as an expense – but I'll be goddamned if I didn't get another bill for $240 which I paid,” he told Michael Gray.
A decade later, Van Vliet checked up on them again. He told Co de Kloet in 1993: “When I went down to see the exhibit I had in Los Angeles [in '89 or '90], I went by and saw those trees. They're still living. A male and a female eucalyptus. They're still getting bigger. I'm glad that I helped out.” The trees were planted when the area was first developed in the late twenties. Both have since died.
Then there was the tale of the sleigh bells he ordered for the recording (which featured on 'Hobo Chang Ba'), twenty sets in total. Cohen noticed a record for the order and questioned why he needed so many as even if he, the group, Zappa and Kunic all played two sets there would be six sets left over.
His answer came back that they would overdub them. Cohen: “I got him 20 sets of sleigh bells. I couldn't argue with that logic.”
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-09-06 15:07 [#01326832]
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His answer came back that they would overdub them
I love the Beefhearrt.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-09-06 15:09 [#01326836]
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haha! i've been meaning to get all the outtakes i keep forgetting, there's a whole double albums worth.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-09-06 15:11 [#01326839]
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i also head they weere all shacked up for 9 months in a house practicing, and van vliet would only let one of them out occasionally to get groceries. when they came to recording it, it took 2 hours. it is an extrordinary album.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-09-06 15:15 [#01326846]
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I'm saving listening to this until I am 50, a pleasure deferred is a pleasure savoured (mmmmm).
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from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-06 15:18 [#01326851]
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that's pretty much true. they all lived on one cup of soya beans a day. everybody looked like death, except Van Vliet, who kept receiving parcels of food from his mother. : )
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from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-06 15:20 [#01326854]
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ha I love this anecdote:
The Magic Band's set was an unmitigated disaster [at the Monterey Pop Festival, 1967]. Van Vliet was still having his anxiety attacks and by all accounts his synapses were being prised apart by some psychedelic substance on the day. The farce began just after the start of the show when he noticed a woman in the crowd looking up at him. Her face suddenly transmuted into a fish's face, with bubbles coming out of her mouth. At which point he freaked out.
French to Elaine Shepherd: “We started 'Electricity' and Don comes out with this 'EE-LEC-TRIC-ARTY' and he's pointing out to the audience and suddenly he just stops and we start playing the song and he's just standing there. And he turned around, very composed, straightened his tie, and walked off the back of a ten-foot stage and landed on the manager.”
Cooder: “We continued on instrumentally. Nobody cared. Everybody's out [of their heads] anyway. The audience is there for a good time, they don't give a shit. Got in the Rent-a-car, drove back to town, got on a plane and went home. That was it.”
(I've just spent a lot of time copying these anecdotes from the book, for the theatre production I'm working on.)
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from qrters tea party on 2004-09-06 15:21 [#01326859]
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haha, that's awesome!
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-09-06 15:26 [#01326867]
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there's a documentary you could download (if you know where to look :) ), it has ry cooder (who does a great impression of beefheart having an anxiety attack) and one of the later guitarists.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-09-06 15:27 [#01326869]
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there's loads of nice vid clips over at beefheart.com, i especially like the advert for lick my decals off baby.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-06 16:51 [#01326967]
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is that the one presented by John Peel?
I saw that one, it's great. :)
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Komakino
from Tan-giers USSR (Russia) on 2004-09-06 16:56 [#01326975]
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i always loved the tree story. I think it was during strictly personal or the trout mask recordings where Don apparently broke a mic because his voice was so powerful, broke a few i think
im looking forward to the Drumbo book, and the Magic Band dvd out this month
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from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-06 19:25 [#01327196]
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Pamela Des Barres [one of the GTOs]: “We smoked a lot of pot and Don put on a record [Reich's Come out]. We lounged around the living room while a guy with a really deep voice repeated the phrase overandoverandover until it turned into many different ideas. When the record was over, the needle skipped, so we listened to that for a while too. I, personally, could find no meaning in it, but I tried. We went outside and stood around in a circle, in a semblance of meditation. I rolled my eyeballs in one direction and then the other, trying to stop them in midspin. It was almost impossible.”
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-09-06 19:28 [#01327199]
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yeah, the john peel narrated one, good stuff.
always wondered if reich's come out was on vinyl, i've been looking for it for sometime but had given up. now i'm gonna HUNT IT DOWN!
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from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-06 19:35 [#01327205]
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it's a great record - I was so pleased to read that Van Vliet loved it too! :)
although I might just like "it's gonna rain" juuust a bit more - the 2nd part when he creates these amazing rhythms and melodies with the preachers voice.
I might have to find that Peel-documentary again, it was good indeed. :)
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-09-06 19:37 [#01327206]
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the documentary t will be on the edonkey network for sure.
me too! its gonna rain has the extra mad part 2 section that makes you laugh for no reason. INSANE!.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-06 19:43 [#01327208]
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just to think how much work that must've been, working with tape recorders, to get them to phase.. all the endless editing..!
when we started doing this theater project we watched the documentary and Anton Corbijns "some yoyo stuff" film. great way to spend a morning. :)
and now, for some silliness..
“How did the name 'Captain Beefheart and His Magic Band' come about?”
“The Great Gnome of Rock 'N' Roll gave us a choice of two names: Captain Beefheart and The Warts, and Ethel Higgenbaum and Her Magic Band. We just combined them. I can't wait until Ethel Higgenbaum and The Warts cut a record” said Alex.
“We feel very fortunate that we are associated with A&M,” said Beefheart. “Our music is down home Chicago type country blues and we work well together”.
“What is the trend in popular music as Beefheart sees it?”
“The Supremes may want to change their name to Ethel Higgenbaum and The Warts if Motown goes out of style.”
“Thank you, Captain Beefheart.”
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from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-06 19:50 [#01327210]
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the bastards have TWO in stock and ask $44..!
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big
from lsg on 2004-09-07 04:26 [#01327355]
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okay, what was that word that dude said during your gig again? translated from this beefheart guy
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-09-07 06:10 [#01327398]
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Wherre did I rread that he got his name because he had an uncle who'd whip out his cock and squeeze it to make it look like a cows hearrt?
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Komakino
from Tan-giers USSR (Russia) on 2004-09-07 07:04 [#01327460]
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listen to Moonlight on Vermont - theres a direct reference to Reich's track in it "got ta, come out to show dem" over and over.
isn't David Lynch in one of the documentarys?
Frank made up the name "Captain Beefheart" for a film script he had - "Captain Beefheart & The Grunt People"
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-07 07:07 [#01327463]
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actually Anus is right.. well, it's one of the possible stories.. Van Vliet says it comes from an uncle who would go to piss and leave the lavatory door open - Van Vliets girlfriend walked past and commented that his uncles penis looked like a "beefheart".
I knew about that reference of "come out", yes. :)
David Lynch is in "some yoyo stuff".
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-09-07 07:32 [#01327482]
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I heard that on Never Mind the Buzzocks, man.
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rogu rarebit
from beggin' for leggings on 2004-09-09 19:29 [#01330336]
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Hmm, I believe I need to see this "Some YoYo Stuff". It sounds pretty great. Love the Beefheart, yo.
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