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offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-06 15:03 [#01326825]
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from "Captain Beefheart", a biography by Mike
Barnes:


Among the strange stories associated with the recording of
Trout Mask Replica, two of the most notorious are actually
true. Van Vliet apparently asked for a tree surgeon to come
round to the house to check the trees, as he felt that the
music the group were producin in rehearsels might frighten
or damage them and the one nearest the kitchen might fall on
the house.
This incident did actually take place. After being
astonished to receive a list of expenses including $800 for
a tree surgeon, Herb Cohen talked the matter over with Van
Vliet. “I felt it was a bit extraneous as an expense –
but I'll be goddamned if I didn't get another bill for $240
which I paid,” he told Michael Gray.
A decade later, Van Vliet checked up on them again. He told
Co de Kloet in 1993: “When I went down to see the exhibit
I had in Los Angeles [in '89 or '90], I went by and saw
those trees. They're still living. A male and a female
eucalyptus. They're still getting bigger. I'm glad that I
helped out.” The trees were planted when the area was
first developed in the late twenties. Both have since died.

Then there was the tale of the sleigh bells he ordered for
the recording (which featured on 'Hobo Chang Ba'), twenty
sets in total. Cohen noticed a record for the order and
questioned why he needed so many as even if he, the group,
Zappa and Kunic all played two sets there would be six sets
left over.
His answer came back that they would overdub them. Cohen:
“I got him 20 sets of sleigh bells. I couldn't argue with
that logic.”


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offline Anus_Presley on 2004-09-06 15:07 [#01326832]
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His answer came back that they would overdub them

I love the Beefhearrt.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-09-06 15:09 [#01326836]
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haha! i've been meaning to get all the outtakes i keep
forgetting, there's a whole double albums worth.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-09-06 15:11 [#01326839]
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i also head they weere all shacked up for 9 months in a
house practicing, and van vliet would only let one of them
out occasionally to get groceries. when they came to
recording it, it took 2 hours. it is an extrordinary album.


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2004-09-06 15:15 [#01326846]
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I'm saving listening to this until I am 50, a pleasure
deferred is a pleasure savoured (mmmmm).


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-06 15:18 [#01326851]
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that's pretty much true. they all lived on one cup of soya
beans a day. everybody looked like death, except Van Vliet,
who kept receiving parcels of food from his mother. : )


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-06 15:20 [#01326854]
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ha I love this anecdote:

The Magic Band's set was an unmitigated disaster [at the
Monterey Pop Festival, 1967]
. Van Vliet was still having
his anxiety attacks and by all accounts his synapses were
being prised apart by some psychedelic substance on the day.
The farce began just after the start of the show when he
noticed a woman in the crowd looking up at him. Her face
suddenly transmuted into a fish's face, with bubbles coming
out of her mouth. At which point he freaked out.

French to Elaine Shepherd: “We started 'Electricity' and
Don comes out with this 'EE-LEC-TRIC-ARTY' and he's pointing
out to the audience and suddenly he just stops and we start
playing the song and he's just standing there. And he turned
around, very composed, straightened his tie, and walked off
the back of a ten-foot stage and landed on the manager.”

Cooder: “We continued on instrumentally. Nobody cared.
Everybody's out [of their heads] anyway. The audience is
there for a good time, they don't give a shit. Got in the
Rent-a-car, drove back to town, got on a plane and went
home. That was it.”

(I've just spent a lot of time copying these anecdotes from
the book, for the theatre production I'm working on.)


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2004-09-06 15:21 [#01326859]
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haha, that's awesome!


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-09-06 15:26 [#01326867]
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there's a documentary you could download (if you know where
to look :) ), it has ry cooder (who does a great impression
of beefheart having an anxiety attack) and one of the later
guitarists.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-09-06 15:27 [#01326869]
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there's loads of nice vid clips over at beefheart.com, i
especially like the advert for lick my decals off baby.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-06 16:51 [#01326967]
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is that the one presented by John Peel?

I saw that one, it's great. :)


 

offline Komakino from Tan-giers USSR (Russia) on 2004-09-06 16:56 [#01326975]
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i always loved the tree story. I think it was during
strictly personal or the trout mask recordings where Don
apparently broke a mic because his voice was so powerful,
broke a few i think

im looking forward to the Drumbo book, and the Magic Band
dvd out this month


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-06 19:25 [#01327196]
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Pamela Des Barres [one of the GTOs]: “We smoked a
lot of pot and Don put on a record [Reich's Come
out
]. We lounged around the living room while a guy with
a really deep voice repeated the phrase overandoverandover
until it turned into many different ideas. When the record
was over, the needle skipped, so we listened to that for a
while too. I, personally, could find no meaning in it, but I
tried. We went outside and stood around in a circle, in a
semblance of meditation. I rolled my eyeballs in one
direction and then the other, trying to stop them in
midspin. It was almost impossible.”



 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-09-06 19:28 [#01327199]
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yeah, the john peel narrated one, good stuff.

always wondered if reich's come out was on vinyl, i've been
looking for it for sometime but had given up. now i'm gonna
HUNT IT DOWN!


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-06 19:35 [#01327205]
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it's a great record - I was so pleased to read that Van
Vliet loved it too! :)

although I might just like "it's gonna rain" juuust a
bit more - the 2nd part when he creates these amazing
rhythms and melodies with the preachers voice.

I might have to find that Peel-documentary again, it was
good indeed. :)


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-09-06 19:37 [#01327206]
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the documentary t will be on the edonkey network for sure.

me too! its gonna rain has the extra mad part 2 section that
makes you laugh for no reason. INSANE!.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-06 19:43 [#01327208]
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just to think how much work that must've been, working with
tape recorders, to get them to phase.. all the endless
editing..!

when we started doing this theater project we watched the
documentary and Anton Corbijns "some yoyo stuff" film. great
way to spend a morning. :)



and now, for some silliness..

“How did the name 'Captain Beefheart and His Magic
Band' come about?”


“The Great Gnome of Rock 'N' Roll gave us a choice of two
names: Captain Beefheart and The Warts, and Ethel Higgenbaum
and Her Magic Band. We just combined them. I can't wait
until Ethel Higgenbaum and The Warts cut a record” said
Alex.

“We feel very fortunate that we are associated with
A&M,” said Beefheart. “Our music is down home Chicago
type country blues and we work well together”.

“What is the trend in popular music as Beefheart sees
it?”

“The Supremes may want to change their name to Ethel
Higgenbaum and The Warts if Motown goes out of style.”

“Thank you, Captain Beefheart.”


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-06 19:50 [#01327210]
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the bastards have TWO in stock and ask $44..!


 

offline big from lsg on 2004-09-07 04:26 [#01327355]
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okay, what was that word that dude said during your gig
again? translated from this beefheart guy


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2004-09-07 06:10 [#01327398]
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Wherre did I rread that he got his name because he had an
uncle who'd whip out his cock and squeeze it to make it look
like a cows hearrt?


 

offline Komakino from Tan-giers USSR (Russia) on 2004-09-07 07:04 [#01327460]
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listen to Moonlight on Vermont - theres a direct reference
to Reich's track in it "got ta, come out to show dem" over
and over.

isn't David Lynch in one of the documentarys?

Frank made up the name "Captain Beefheart" for a film script
he had - "Captain Beefheart & The Grunt People"


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-07 07:07 [#01327463]
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actually Anus is right.. well, it's one of the possible
stories.. Van Vliet says it comes from an uncle who would go
to piss and leave the lavatory door open - Van Vliets
girlfriend walked past and commented that his uncles penis
looked like a "beefheart".

I knew about that reference of "come out", yes. :)

David Lynch is in "some yoyo stuff".


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-09-07 07:32 [#01327482]
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I heard that on Never Mind the Buzzocks, man.


 

offline rogu rarebit from beggin' for leggings on 2004-09-09 19:29 [#01330336]
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Hmm, I believe I need to see this "Some YoYo Stuff". It
sounds pretty great. Love the Beefheart, yo.


 


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