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offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-09-02 11:56 [#01321687]
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LAZY_TITLE
Downloading now. Apparently quite useful.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-09-02 11:58 [#01321690]
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ExCeLlEnT!


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2004-09-02 11:59 [#01321692]
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how the fuck can you have "safe GPU overclocking"???


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-09-02 12:01 [#01321698]
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Well it means that it overclocks it but senses if the board
is becoming unstable or too hot and lowers the speed again.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-09-02 12:01 [#01321700]
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overengineered GPUs ?


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-09-02 12:06 [#01321708]
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Well they do run them under spec really. It makes them more
reliable. If you think about it, the only things different
between the PRo and the DXT are the heatsink, which allows
the XT to have a higher clock frequency, and the GRAM which
is faster.

By the way, it's quite possible to Mod the X800Pro Vivo
edition to an XT :D

The Vivo edition is actually an XT but it's been clocked
down for some reason. Do a quick google yo!


 

offline pf from Finland on 2004-09-02 12:43 [#01321753]
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look like crap, and the interface is made out of candy


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2004-09-02 12:46 [#01321756]
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well isn't that a bit pointless then?

the whole point of overclocking your machine is so that you
can push it to extremes

here's the scenario:

you're playing DOOM 3, at ultra quality and you've got the
full 60fps, all because you've overclocked your card, and
then suddenly you start getting shit frame rates because
your card is saying "oh no, i'm too hot, i'd better run a
bit slower so i don't blow up"


 

offline deepspace9mm from filth on 2004-09-02 12:51 [#01321758]
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Personally i'd sooner have a slow-running game than a Melted
Computer. But hell, what do i know?


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2004-09-02 12:54 [#01321760]
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you don't want a melted computer? they're great!

you can make a hat or a brooch or a pteradactyl out of it


 

offline deepspace9mm from filth on 2004-09-02 13:01 [#01321763]
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And suddenly, i'm sold.

*grabs a blowtorch*


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-09-02 13:04 [#01321765]
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i don't even HAVE a computer!


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2004-09-02 13:04 [#01321766]
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no you don't need a blowtorch, just overclock your GPU

just make sure you haven't got one of those nifty ones that
giginger is going on about, else you're knackered


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 13:36 [#01321789]
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Guys,

When manufacturing silicon wafers, you get different
"yields" at which clockrates the "chips" can run at.

Not all wafers are produced the same.

The chips all come from the same fab, but the ones that
really perform at higher clockspeeds are "hand picked" and
chosen to be put into the "Ultra" cards; the fastest
cards..etc.

Sometimes, when yields are REALLY good, and all/most chips
are running at "above spec" clockrates, the company will put
these "fast chips" into the lower based cards, because they
need to fill that sector.

So that's why you can get a mid or low line card that
overclocks really well.

That's why you look for a certain "batch" of CPUs made
within a certain week, at a certain fab plant. Because that
"batch" has shown great yields and if you get one, chances
are it will overclock better than others.

Now, in terms of overclocking the GPU and underclocking,
it's the same with CPU speedstep technology.

When yer sittin at a 2d interface (yer desktop, for most
shells.....) yer vid card is crankin along at top
speed....but why? It doesn't need to be?

Instead, when the pipelines are basically empty, you can
clock the GPU down, and lower the fan speed.

I.e., less head and less noise coming from your PC.

The app wont just "accidently clock yer GPU down in the
middle of the game" because the pipelines are chalked full
of data.

And yes, many chips are "overspec" because they have to run
STABLE in the shittiest of conditions... i.e., yer moms box
that sits around with NO air circulation, dust everywhere,
and no fans in the box. The card has to perform under the
harshest environments...which is why there is always room
for overclocking.


 

offline TonyFish from the realm of our dreams on 2004-09-02 13:55 [#01321812]
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I've never been much of a hardware person. Ok so what
advantages does this present for me and my 9800XT 256MB?


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 19:26 [#01322314]
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hardocp.com has a good writeup.

i donth ave time yet to install it, did anyone here?


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-09-02 23:48 [#01322542]
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Yeah, it looks horrible but it's an "easier" way to control
some of the options. Personally I think it's slowed my card
down.


 

offline revpersona from Plainfield (United States) on 2004-09-03 00:32 [#01322546]
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If you want a good cheap card to overclock...grab the MSI
9800 Pro from newegg for like $194. It's actually an
underclocked XT (hence what elusive brought up about filling
sectors). I wish I would have waitied on my card. I bought
the ATI 9800 Pro 128 almost a year ago for $349....and just
got my PC built almost 2 weeks ago. That's what I get for
jumping the gun. :[


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-03 05:49 [#01322653]
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same here ($330 for my 9800pro about a year ago)

oh well, prices will always fall ... don't kick yourself for
that one.


 


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