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offline hobbes from age on 2004-08-27 16:57 [#01316236]
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i really like his work, i really do. i watched rivers and
tides last night and felt solace .


 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-08-27 17:01 [#01316238]
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for ex


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-08-27 17:02 [#01316240]
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you have a digital copy?


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-08-27 17:04 [#01316244]
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fuck yes

I have to see that movie...


 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-08-27 17:04 [#01316245]
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buy it!
:)


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-08-27 17:07 [#01316246]
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Try before I buy.

And I'm not sure I can find it locally : /


 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-08-27 17:08 [#01316250]
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you mean your local side of the internet?


 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-08-27 17:10 [#01316252]
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ever since our first little encounter i knew you were a man
of taste!


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-08-27 17:11 [#01316256]
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like ships in the night..?


 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-08-27 17:12 [#01316258]
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no, more like little shits in the night..


 

offline deepspace9mm from filth on 2004-08-27 17:16 [#01316263]
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His "snowballs" series was cool, quite surprising... more
focused on people's reactions that his own "mission" or
whatever. A lot of his stuff is kinda pseudo-poetic nonsense
i think.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-08-27 17:17 [#01316266]
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encounter?


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-08-27 17:18 [#01316268]
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those photographs are dandy.

too bad cant get hands on some higher res/qual images,
anyone?


 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-08-27 17:22 [#01316271]
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snigger


 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-08-27 17:24 [#01316272]
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sorry mate, what i meant to say was i didn't get that
impression from watching the dvd. maybe i see a little what
you mean, but nah.



 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-08-27 17:25 [#01316273]
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what?



 

offline deepspace9mm from filth on 2004-08-27 17:35 [#01316282]
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Not seen the dvd but i have a couple of photography
collections of his work... i always thought they were very
nice to look at, and obviously involved a fair bit of
effort, but i always thought the whole "land art" thing was
a bit up it's own arse... if you're serious about making
non-commercial art then don't take any photographs and don't
tell a soul. Otherwise the concept just disappears.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-08-27 17:36 [#01316284]
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The whole point of his work is the ephemeral transience of
natural beauty. When he dies all the books and images of his
work should burst into flames.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-08-27 17:41 [#01316288]
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deepspace, willing to zip em up? I'm quite interested.


 

offline deepspace9mm from filth on 2004-08-27 17:46 [#01316291]
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Photography collections in book form, which would involve
lots of scanning and uploading and hassles. So no, sorry.
Too lazy.


 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-08-27 17:48 [#01316296]
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i really agree on the whole land art thing. but not on your
opinion of his work.. if you get to watch "rivers and
tides", give it a go. to see him at it makes sense. really.


 

offline deepspace9mm from filth on 2004-08-27 17:52 [#01316299]
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I've been meaning to search out the DVD for a while now,
because i'm very much torn on how i think about his work...
i'll find, watch and bump.


 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-08-27 17:52 [#01316300]
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when did he say he wanted to make non commercial art? are
you broadening the subject ? ... he keeps track oh his work
wich is logical, and this german dude wanted to do a
documentary...no big deal... he gives lectures sometimes coz
he's asked to, so what?...i wouldn't mind going to one! i'm
not trying to take defense, but i really feel labelling him
a fake is a bit harsh (at least for me to take in after what
i saw) :)


 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-08-27 17:54 [#01316303]
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cool, done any new stuff? i really enjoyed a particular one
i remember.


 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-08-27 17:55 [#01316307]
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i'm not so into the "snowballs in summer" stuff..


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-08-27 17:59 [#01316311]
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omg no he's attempting to "sell out"

i hate when people play that card (not that it's been played
here, just stating....)



 

offline deepspace9mm from filth on 2004-08-27 18:12 [#01316330]
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I guess mister goldsworthy is kind of at a tangent to a lot
of "land art" dudes, it seems to be more aesthetic and less
conceptual... i guess my lumping him in with a militant
anticommercial element might have been a bit premature. I
actually like a lot of his work on a visual level, but it
just feels like he's taken the land art "style", diluted the
concept and taken some photographs. Dunno, i could be being
a bit harsh.

Also, i have a fair bit of new stuff, but i haven't got any
photos of it yet... expect some random spam etc etc some
time in the future :-)


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-08-27 18:15 [#01316331]
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im new to him and interested; dont push me away ;p


 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-08-27 18:24 [#01316348]
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my missus spent way too long in art school,she is a
fantastic photographer, VERY good....but we do argue
sometimes as i feel she was taught opinions...slowly
brainwashed.... and i hate that, a lot of art students come
out the exact same....style acceptance followers with no
balls, that become scared to be individuals.

on the other my gf was taught certain fundamentals wich are
vital....

i'm not saying you are like this btw, i dunno what i'm
trying to say.... let's talk about it later on in life when
you've watched the dvd, wich by then i might hate. :)



 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-08-27 18:28 [#01316351]
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god i can be such a prick. i hate writing, i get confused.


 

offline deepspace9mm from filth on 2004-08-27 18:35 [#01316356]
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Heavy teaching in creative fields can do that, fo' sho'.
I've seen it in action and it ain't pretty. It's really
disturbing actually... "genre" brainwashing, where every
artist must be either fitted into a stylistic period or a
kind of "outside the box", pseudo-maverick kind of field,
overlapping heavily with the myth of the artist as a loner
genius or whatever...

All Bollocks.

My objection to goldsworthy's work isn't that it's
"poisoning the concept"... there's no way to dilute an idea
really, it's only one person's perspective (and yes i
realize this is entirely in contravention to previous posts,
but hey, i've been drinking).

The thing i object to is taking somebody else's original
idea *cough*richard long*cough*, taking out the element of
"idea" and replacing it with something that makes nice
photographs. Which is what goldsworthy's stuff makes me
think of sometimes. I dunno.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-08-27 18:35 [#01316357]
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i don't know who you are talking to; i assume deepspace9mm.

: /

maybe their vision just evolves...you can't stay in a static
state forever...

i get tired of looking at art sometimes...because i have no
memories bound to it.

when im all depressed (read: drunk by myself) and just kinda
bored. .. i'll go through all my pics .. trips, whatever...
raelly brings me up.

i have a hard time really "liking" a pic from anyone...kinda
hard when i dont have any mems bound to it ya know?


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-08-27 18:40 [#01316360]
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same can be said about a song .. obviously...but you get the
idea.


 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-08-27 18:41 [#01316363]
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haha obviously the missus studied/knew about long , not
goldsworthy....



 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-08-27 18:42 [#01316366]
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who are you talking to?

why do i find it so hard to grasp your post?


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-08-27 18:43 [#01316368]
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sry im a 3rd wheel in this thread. . : /


 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-08-27 19:21 [#01316408]
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what's wrong with three wheels?
ar you mr bean or something?


 


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