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After, what I personally feel, was a letdown in Doom3. Half-Life 2 is my last hope for an awesome game! BRING IT ON! |
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I've only seen parts of doom 3 when being played by a friend, but it seemed pretty boring to me, storywise. hoping that HL2 will indeed save our lives. btw, I believe the HL2 hype started a few years ago.. :P |
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Give me a H Give me an a Give me an l Give me an f Give me a - Give me an L Give me an i Give me an f Give me an e Give me a 2 What have we got? "BOLM-DUSC"! But honestly, those screenshots look awesome. I've always had higher hopes for hl2 than I had for doom3 anyway. Weren't you supposed to be in the test lab half an hour ago? |
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Doom 3 IS boring. Which is a sad thing to say. For all the clever things they did they forgot to make a fucking game! Horse: Me in the labs? I never left! I WAS CREATED IN A TUBE! My star sign is Pyrex |
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surely HL2 should only be better because of Gordon Freeman's snazzy glasses and sexy facial hair. |
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And the fact he's an MIT graduate. |
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i've been playing the game slow, i'm only in alpha lab 4, but so far i've been very entertained by doom 3. it's certainly no brainbuster, but it's very pretty, the sound is amazing, it's genuinely creepy and it does a fairly good job of creating an imersive environment. if half life is as entertaining i'll be a very happy camper. |
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the actual gameplay itself looked terribly repetitive to me. but apparently the parts that are situated in hell are worth the drudgery to get there - from reviews I've read. |
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Playing the leak of it has impressed me and that's full f bugs and missing textures and unbalanced stuff. The sheer detail you can already see has amazed me and also the ingenuity! |
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i wouldn't hype it up too much ;) that's all ppl do these days, and they just end up dissapointed. and as far as the lakc of story in doom3, well that's opinion, but man you must not be playing it right. |
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I do agree that the visuals are amazing. |
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1) only play at night with all lights and everything off 2) cell phones off 3) few beers in ya 4) 5.1 sound or headphones CRANKED BEYOND BELIEF. 5) only play 1 level or an hour a night. im at delta l3 and ive bene playing it since it came out. go thru all the PDA info carfeully, and take your time in each level looking for all the little hidden things. Yer not supposed to blow thru this game. |
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it's very similar to the original. i mean, you're running around shooting baddies... that's pretty much it. but, it pulls it off pretty well imo. i haven't gotten bored with it yet... but, that's just me of course. i do wish there were some fully lit, wide open scenes every once in a while though, just to offer some contrast to the dark and claustrophobic feel of the game. i think it'd really make the game feel all the more enclosed and grimey if you walked into a huge, bright area for a while, then went back into the tunnels. |
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mm, yes, that would work. you'd be kind of relieved to be in a well-lit space and then see a dark corridor ahead.. "ohno.." |
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epohs, did you get to the rail train map yet? if not, you are about to see the most beautiful part in a game, EVER! |
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qrter, what is really a bitch (but i love it ;) is ill run into a room, bam! tons of fukin demons i start blastin away rockets, spray-and-prayig, and i get most of em, then i go in there and realize i shot out most of the lights heh so now it's pitch black and it's MY OWN DAMN FAULT. |
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I will play the game again. I just got to a point and thought; Fuck this, I'm bored of being in a corridor and shooting things. But if people are saying it's worth pushing on then I'll give it a whirl. |
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you are about to see the most beautiful part in a game, EVER! i've pretty much been thinking that every time i walk around a new corner in this game. |
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giginger, you really have to allow yerself to get immersed in this game. trust me, the dark corridors get more "unsettling" than they do boring. you get to the point where yer pissed at the darkness simply because you don't want to jump anymore :) |
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fuk, ill easily waste 10minutes just admiring a scene |
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omg just reached hell. fuck man, i honestly don't see how you guys say this game is so linear and the same levels over and over. jeezous fukin a, what kind of conditions are you paying this in? fukin jumped so many times. it's great, hearing the fucking footsteps of some big ass chaingunnin mother fucker from the rear right side, youpull out the rocket launcher wait the steps get louder you keep your crosshair on the middle of the door WHURRRRRRRRSHHHHHHHHHH BAM! |
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a load of great scares is not a good story. neither does it mean the game isn't linear. |
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ummm, you really misinterpredt everything I say to skew it in some form of negation. : / |
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no.. the only thing I'm doing is reacting to descriptions by you how the game manages to scare you time and time again, be it by throwing surprises at you or by the general ambiance of the game. |
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while the "story" may not have been as great as other games, there are 2 facts pertaining to me: 1) no other game has immersed me so much 2) no other game has made me jump or almost kinda "chicken" to go after an ammo pack 3) the visuals are ___explicitive___ awesome 4) the sound adds so much to the immersion. are you playing with 5.1 or quality headphones? If you don't like it fine, but that's like someone who listens to techno saying aphex twin sucks. : / |
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exactely, you are "misinterpredt everything I say to skew it in some form of negation. " |
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being in your location, i doubt you had the opportunity to play doom/2 back in early 90s? was it avail? maybe ties to the story and experience from that game is helping me get along with this game better than in your situation. |
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you said before: "fuck man, i honestly don't see how you guys say this game is so linear and the same levels over and over." all the scares you describe do not mean it's not linear. neither are a lot of good scares the same as a story - this is what I look for in a good computergame (at least a solo game, to be more explicit). how is that misinterpreting everything you said to skew it in some form of negation? |
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where do you think I live..? yes, I have played both of them. but I was 16 then, had no experience with other computergames. I guess my preferences have changed. |
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the story is extrememly linear. you're given an objective, you complete that objectve, you're given another objective, etc... there's not much room for wandering off that set plot. there is a story, but it's the same story no matter how you play the game, and there aren't any real plot twists. |
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i just went thru delta labs therefore, all the levels play thru pretty well in objectives and learning more about what the UAC was/were/will be doing. |
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i dunno where you live qrter? 16s pretty old for doom.... nostolgia plays a lot into it, but most people only look on the surface for a game and point out negatives instead of just playing it and gettin immersed, which this game has done better than any other ive experneiced |
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Doom 3 is a fantastic game. I can see why Gingah would be disapointed with it (I sort of was... it's not the Game of the Year candidate I thought it'd be), but I can't imagine someone thinking it's boring unless they were expecting the second coming! It's a blast, and a work of art. And though I see Qrter's point about the story (games like this have had good stories before) I disagree with him, you don't NEED story in this kind of game... I don't want it, I get my fill of that stuff elsewhere. I just want to fucking survive here. Fuck characters. The only plot developments I need is a 15 foot demon coming up from behind me and breathing at me in 5.1. As far as being linear, I don't think that's a problem either. If you want that kind of stuff, play Deus Ex or Thief or something. This is a DIFFERENT kind of experience, I'm tired of it being compared to games that have nothing in common with it. Doom's getting unfairly maligned... because of the hype. I hope the same thing doesn't happen to Half Life. And Halo. And Fable. And Metal Gear Solid 3. And GTA5. And Silent Hill 4 (which has what I think might be the best soundtrack in history). Or Chaos Theory. Or Killzone. Or Forza. Too much fucking hype these days... I miss when I used to rent 3 NES games at once purely based on the screenshots and the box art. Now it's all about what has the better bump mapping, normal mappyin, frames per second, the more advanced ragdoll physics system, etc... people just can't seem to accept and enjoy games for what they are. Doom is a straightforward FPS that lives and dies with its ambience, by design. |
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And the game DOES have some plot, and some neat storytelling touches via PDA... but I have to admit, I never pay attention to things like that. You'll never catch me reading any of the books I pick up in Morrowind, or every E-mail in Deus Ex. |
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" I just want to fucking survive here. " QUOTE OF THE YEAR. |
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doom manuals told the story 12 years ago.... ....the pda does a pretty good job (voices/acting is/are realistic for sure)....and i find myself going through them all and getting a decent feel for what was going on there. i like how they implemented it. man im just trying to survive too :D |
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but that's the whole point, I do NEED it in this type of game. just a load of levels exactly stops me from being immersed simply because it feels too much like a platform-game. nobody is comparing it to other games, it is just stated that this game is linear. and to some people that's not very exciting. it comes down to personal taste. |
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you guys need to start playing muds, and let your imagination carry you! :) |
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yar! |
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i don't play a lot of games, but this is [by far i would say] the most fun FPS i've played in a long time... and easily the most beautiful. as far as the look, it's surpassed my expectations. |
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Then you'll just have to wait for Half Life, you big stick in the mud... in the meantime, I'll enjoy both of them immensely. ;-p You make a good point. Yep, it's all personal taste. For me, the linearity and lack of story is the least of this game's problems. It does everything it claims it's there to do... it's sort of the equivalent of a well crafted dumbass action movie to me. Fun as hell, shouldn't be overanalyzed. But if it's not your thing, and if what it offers isn't your dish, well... that sucks. But you should definitely go beyond ''watching your friend play some parts'' and going by ''reviews I've read''. Because although the fighting IS a bit repetitive, and really simple... I just love the visceral feeling of being in that place, in that situation... it's a step forward for video games, presentation-wise. Gameplay-wise, well... I don't know it this game is going to age too well. |
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I don't see much replay value from me, but I can't wait to try nightmare after i beat vet. ....and mods will satisfy me for a while, give it some time :) |
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i'll have broadband in a week or two... ...i'm looking forward to being BFG fodder for you dorks. :D |
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i think by far the biggest accomplishment of doom 3 was to create a new 3d/lighting engine that's going to enable some truly beautiful games to follow. the engine seems to scale across different systems amazingly nice. |
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Definitely. Doom's a very nice game, but when they get a better grip on this engine (and others) and start getting a bit more ambitious... we're in for some good shit. I want a Silent Hill game that utilizes this technology. I don't think I'd ever sleep again. |
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the only multiplayer fps i've ever really played was counterstrike, and that was awesomely fun... except everyone else was usually much better than me, so i basically just ran around and got killed in inventive ways. my handle: moving target |
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Despite my shortage of knowledge in Half-Life 2, I am very much looking forward to playing it. |
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Well I did have the lights off and I had my headphones on at a good volume. I didn't have my own music playing either and I just couldn't get in. I might just warp to the hell levels and go from there :P |
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Counterstrike is fucking awesome and I'm loving it! Everyone is, as you say, a lot better than yourself and myself. Although I got a double kill the other day on the two highest ranked people on that server. I was fucking chuffed as all I did was run at them having launched a grenade in their general direction firing like a drunk motherfucker on crack and viagra. |
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I cant fucking wait for this game anymore. When GTA: San Andreas, MGS Snake Eater and HL2 have been released, they can stop the whole game industry. |
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