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         |  astrid-gil-botn
             from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2004-08-18 11:25 [#01308367] Points: 1649 Status: Regular
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 | rephlex have updated their website http://www.rephlex.comLAZY_TITLE
 
 
 
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         |  astrid-gil-botn
             from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2004-08-18 11:26 [#01308370] Points: 1649 Status: Regular
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 | LAZY_TITLEhttp://www.rephlex.com 
 peace to all the haters on this site,
 ain't worth saying something unless it's positive
 
 
 
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         |  earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2004-08-18 11:32 [#01308375] Points: 27859 Status: Regular
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 | excellent! 
 
 
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         |  earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2004-08-18 11:37 [#01308377] Points: 27859 Status: Regular
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 | so we're getting massage-a-rama by the loungejays re-released which isn't overwhelmingly good, but i hope the
 other stuff is. i'm intruiged to hear it even if it turns
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         |  010101
             from Vancouver (Canada) on 2004-08-18 11:38 [#01308378] Points: 7669 Status: Regular
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         |  astrid-gil-botn
             from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2004-08-18 11:50 [#01308385] Points: 1649 Status: Regular | Followup to earthleakage: #01308377
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 | yep exactly the kind of "everything is soo booring " answer i'd expect from this site which is why even though i really
 like and enthuse about electronic music i just don't visit
 here any more
 it seems that the people that use this site have an
 extremely negative attitude and don't really like electronic
 music much
 planet mu message board used to have this problem and it's
 got better but the people that use this board are much worse
 .
 
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         |  earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2004-08-18 11:57 [#01308388] Points: 27859 Status: Regular | Followup to astrid-gil-botn: #01308385
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 | try reading what i said again without your anally retentive rose tinted glasses on, you fuckwit
 
 
 
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         |  horsefactory
             from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-08-18 12:00 [#01308390] Points: 14867 Status: Regular | Followup to astrid-gil-botn: #01308385
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 | Haha, you should have actually read his replies, cretin. I bet you prepared that response before you even made this
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         |  r40f
             from qrters tea party on 2004-08-18 12:01 [#01308392] Points: 14210 Status: Regular | Followup to 010101: #01308378
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 | hey that guy's art is really cool - like an absurdist version of raymond pettibon.
 
 
 
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         |  JAroen
             from the pineal gland on 2004-08-18 12:03 [#01308393] Points: 16065 Status: Regular | Followup to r40f: #01308392
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 | yeah been swoppin tru it. awesome 
 
 
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         |  JAroen
             from the pineal gland on 2004-08-18 12:03 [#01308394] Points: 16065 Status: Regular | Followup to earthleakage: #01308375
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 | anyway, istn it true that yer astrobotnia, astrid-gil-botn? 
 
 
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         |  JAroen
             from the pineal gland on 2004-08-18 12:04 [#01308395] Points: 16065 Status: Regular | Followup to JAroen: #01308394
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 | damn you, follow up button 
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         |  dog_belch
             from Netherlands, The on 2004-08-18 12:06 [#01308396] Points: 15098 Status: Addict | Followup to astrid-gil-botn: #01308385 | Show recordbag
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 | "ain't worth saying something unless it's positive" - that's not strictly true, now is it? I think people are a
 bit jaded with current releases, and you can't deny Rephlex
 has reissued a lot of quite old stuff lately, so it's hard
 to get enthusiastic, especially about 808 records I listened
 to the first time they came out. If there was some genuinely
 thrilling music I think you'd have all sorts of ecstatic
 posts, as it is, there's not much apart from tired
 regurgiated ideas and faded facsimilies of past glories.
 Sorry for not being really enthused about some old reissues
 and some distinctly dated and ropey sounding dancehall
 grime.
 
 
 
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         |  010101
             from Vancouver (Canada) on 2004-08-18 12:07 [#01308397] Points: 7669 Status: Regular
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 | If you can't use the Lazy Link you get David Shrigley(ed) 
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         |  astrid-gil-botn
             from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2004-08-18 14:34 [#01308474] Points: 1649 Status: Regular | Followup to earthleakage: #01308388
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 | but earthleakage it doesn't say anywhere on the site that it's reissues of loungejay or whatever does it?
 
 
 
 
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         |  dog_belch
             from Netherlands, The on 2004-08-18 14:41 [#01308479] Points: 15098 Status: Addict | Show recordbag
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 | I think, correct me if I am wrong, the Lounge Jays are mentioned in the article about 808 State, but no, I don't
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             from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2004-08-18 14:49 [#01308486] Points: 1649 Status: Regular | Followup to dog_belch: #01308396
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 | dog belch  i personally think the releases are the best they have been and i wouldn't have heard the 2 3 rereleases they
 have put out ie newbuild tik and tok and black devil
 
 also i'm not sure what dancehall grime is but the bug is
 pretty fresh  and got the accolades too - as did the grime
 lp which is really fresh to my ears and the more i check out
 of that stuff the more i like it .
 I liked pierre bastien and victor gama too - hardly old and
 tired, that stuff, totally fresh and you really should admit
 it .
 you should also admit you never really heard much music like
 the bug or grime too, especially as you don;t know what it
 is "dancehall grime" indeed.
 
 i think your're probably the  jaded one , which record are
 you actually referring to that you bought the day it came
 out exactly ?
 from what i can make out the prebuild stuff hasn't been
 released before - so again negative assumptions, and if you
 bought black devil you must be way into your 40's by now .
 
 i don;t hear any facimiles of past glories at all - i think
 alot of idm is definitley going over the same ground and has
 done for the last few years and the better labels like
 planet mu warp and rephlex are addressing that, planet mu
 with it's rereleases of remarc, it's broad look at idm which
 includes alot of styles and warp with it's taking on of hip
 hop and post rock .
 
 rather than releasing stuff that sounds a bit like aphex
 autechre or squarepusher, or venetian snares but with none
 of the emotion, melody or ear for atmosphere, cos that's all
 i'm hearing from alot of so called idm today, show offs.
 
 and no i'm not astrobotnia   /as far as i know that's ovuca
 - i;m just a punter who used to come here but now rarely
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             from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-08-18 14:57 [#01308498] Points: 10836 Status: Lurker
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         |  earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2004-08-18 14:58 [#01308500] Points: 27859 Status: Regular
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 | it doesn't give a tracklisting for prebuild but it does mention it. either i dreamt that the loungejays track was
 going to be on it or i read it elsewhere. we'll have to wait
 and see if it turns up on the release.
 
 i was not a fan of the loungejays track but i was a big fan
 of the gerald stuff, the born in the north 12" with ed
 barton & chapter & the verse, and thre hot lemonade lp. the
 other 12" of this era, 'let yourself go' has already been
 re-released by warp, and excellent track but unfortunately
 missing the carpenters 'top of the world' sample from the
 end. perhaps they couldnt get permission for it
 
 the reason for the delay of this release so far as i can
 tell was getting permission from arthur baker for the
 confusion remix. fuck knows why it takes 6 months for
 someone to sort something like that out.
 
 the black devil and tik & tok releases are great, btw, but i
 could never get into the victor gama lp, but i really liked
 the pierre bastien lp, i liked the idea of him making his
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         |  dog_belch
             from Netherlands, The on 2004-08-18 15:04 [#01308515] Points: 15098 Status: Addict | Followup to astrid-gil-botn: #01308486 | Show recordbag
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 | Wooooah wooooah and a side order of "stop right there"!!!! I think you'll find most people here give everything Rephlex
 release a chance, but if it's not good, or that interesting,
 you can't blame people for being disappointed. Or do you
 just want empty, fullsome praise about EVERYTHING? I am glad
 you are enthused and enjoying the music, as long as it's
 genuine, but don't get pissed because other people, it might
 just be me, think the lastest releases are weak. The
 reissues are interesting, but they're just that, reissues.
 
 If you want to know what record I bought when it came out
 then learn to read an use your eyes to examine the phrase I
 employed "especially about 808 records I listened
 to the first time they came out", do you see the little
 clue I left there. That's right, it was Glen Miller.
 
 And what is this "you should also admit you never really
 heard much music like the bug or grime too, especially as
 you don;t know what it is "dancehall grime" indeed. " -
 Have I got the fucking label wrong, is it actually Mashup
 Ragga, or Ardkore Grime, or 2-Step Jungle, or DnB breakzzz,
 whatever you call it is is very fucking dated and
 uninteresting. I don't see how it's different from a lot of
 other music in (I'm not even going to try and second guess
 what you've decided to call it) genre of music.  I tried to
 be nice to you but now I hope you, being a  presumptuous
 fool,  fuck off and post your unloved bilge on the planet mu
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         |  thecurbcreeper
             from United States on 2004-08-18 20:21 [#01308752] Points: 6045 Status: Lurker
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 | i like what i've heard of the cylob music system releases. hope to be receiving them soon in the mail.
 
 overall i'd say rephlex is pretty weak. but that's just my
 opinion. they are a pretty roots label.
 
 when it comes down to it astrid, it's all opinions.
 
 
 
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         |  JivverDicker
             from my house on 2004-08-18 20:31 [#01308759] Points: 12102 Status: Regular | Followup to dog_belch: #01308515
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 | He's allways the same. He gets paid to promote rephlexes things.  I loved Tik Tok for retro reasons but some of the
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         |  thecurbcreeper
             from United States on 2004-08-18 20:34 [#01308760] Points: 6045 Status: Lurker | Followup to JivverDicker: #01308759
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 | aye i remember hearing that. so it's true he works for rephlex?
 
 
 
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         |  plaidzebra
             from so long, xlt on 2004-08-18 20:35 [#01308761] Points: 5678 Status: Lurker
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 | what's this then, rephlex innit? 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-08-18 21:07 [#01308769] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to dog_belch: #01308515
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 | I like it when dog_belch gets angry. 
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         |  dog_belch
             from Netherlands, The on 2004-08-18 21:11 [#01308771] Points: 15098 Status: Addict | Followup to qrter: #01308769 | Show recordbag
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 | With a fucking name like astrid-gil-botn... grrr, whyioughta.....
 
 
 
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             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-08-18 21:13 [#01308775] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to dog_belch: #01308771
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         |  dog_belch
             from Netherlands, The on 2004-08-18 21:14 [#01308776] Points: 15098 Status: Addict | Show recordbag
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 | oooh, i've come over all unneccessary, he's gone and got my wild up!
 
 
 
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         |  -crazone
             from smashing acid over and over on 2004-08-18 21:16 [#01308777] Points: 11235 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | I wonder what the 808 state prebuild sounds like, any previews anywhere for d/l?
 
 
 
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         |  JAroen
             from the pineal gland on 2004-09-14 11:44 [#01334610] Points: 16065 Status: Regular | Followup to astrid-gil-botn: #01308486
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 | haha you suck, ovuca 
 
 
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         |  epohs
             from )C: on 2004-09-14 11:51 [#01334619] Points: 17620 Status: Lurker
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         |  E-man
             from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2004-09-30 15:56 [#01349287] Points: 3000 Status: Regular
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 | the level of agressivity in this thread is frightening... 
 
 
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         |  drummond
             from coffee, ahh, a burger, ahh on 2004-09-30 16:38 [#01349332] Points: 1021 Status: Addict
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             from Milano (Italy) on 2004-10-01 01:26 [#01349533] Points: 12920 Status: Lurker
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 | nah... i like astrid... don't be so aggressive with him. astrid back to xltronic, we can change... we're better than
 plane mu... give us another chance...
 
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             from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2004-10-01 05:09 [#01349637] Points: 3000 Status: Regular | Followup to WooferAttack: #01349533
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             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-01 06:45 [#01349699] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to WooferAttack: #01349533
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 | he was being awfuls. 
 
 
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             from County Clare on 2004-10-01 09:13 [#01349814] Points: 27325 Status: Lurker
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 | Dog Belch hit the nail on the head. Bravo! 
 
 
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             from Milano (Italy) on 2004-10-01 10:11 [#01349842] Points: 12920 Status: Lurker
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 | astrid-gil-botn moderator of xltronic! 
 
 
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             from )C: on 2004-10-01 10:14 [#01349843] Points: 17620 Status: Lurker
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 | astrid-gil-botn, one of the reasons for xltronic! 
 
 
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         |  Cheffe1979
             from fuck (Austria) on 2004-10-01 10:15 [#01349844] Points: 4630 Status: Lurker
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 | astrid cannot see clearly due to his job. i think thats all.
 
 it's funny how he defends the boring pile of shit rephlex
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         |  virginpusher
             from County Clare on 2004-10-01 10:20 [#01349849] Points: 27325 Status: Lurker | Followup to Cheffe1979: #01349844
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         |  nobsmuggler
             from silly mid-off on 2004-10-01 10:25 [#01349852] Points: 6265 Status: Addict
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         |  soon
             from the moon and 2002-07-30 12:55 on 2004-10-01 10:25 [#01349854] Points: 227 Status: Regular | Followup to dog_belch: #01308515
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 Wooooah wooooah and a side order of "stop right
 there"!!!! I
 think you'll find most people here give everything Rephlex
 release a chance, but if it's not good, or that
 interesting,
 you can't blame people for being disappointed. Or do you
 just want empty, fullsome praise about EVERYTHING?
 
 I will chime in with i whloleheartedly agree with this.
 Perhaps they have recieved too much empty praise?
 
 Followed up with:
 
 Have I got the fucking label wrong, is it actually
 Mashup
 Ragga, or Ardkore Grime, or 2-Step Jungle, or DnB breakzzz,
 whatever you call it is is very fucking dated and
 uninteresting.
 
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         |  Cheffe1979
             from fuck (Austria) on 2004-10-01 10:30 [#01349858] Points: 4630 Status: Lurker | Followup to astrid-gil-botn: #01308370
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 | coincidentally, the only folks who do not share these views seem to work for this very label.
 
 
 
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             from the moon and 2002-07-30 12:55 on 2004-10-01 10:34 [#01349859] Points: 227 Status: Regular | Followup to Cheffe1979: #01349858
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 | So it seems. I think they are losing their touch.  Just my opinion though. As their years increase, their taste in
 music changes. As it does for everyone. I believe they are
 unable to recognize quality currently and settle for quanity
 (see Amen Andrews 5 volume snooze fest)
 
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         |  dog_belch
             from Netherlands, The on 2004-10-01 10:58 [#01349898] Points: 15098 Status: Addict | Show recordbag
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 | I wrote a reall long response but it rambled. I don't know anymore, the thing is I am out of touch so I shouldn't try
 to judge Rephlex's current releases. I like inventive,
 electronic music I can listen to at home, they used to
 provide that, and now they don't. I think they are serving
 someone else now... who knows what the "vibe" is in the east
 london club scene, what the cutting edge underground graphic
 designers are listeing to, I am sure there all fucking
 lapping up vintage acid rereleases, course they would, the
 fucking witless cunts. Or this dark edgy ragga grime
 malarky. It smacks to me of pandering to fucking bald headed
 multimedia artists living "on the edge" in Hackney. Well
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         |  virginpusher
             from County Clare on 2004-11-28 11:00 [#01408708] Points: 27325 Status: Lurker
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 | I just thought of something. 
 I dont think its quite fair to judge us for having negitive
 opinions about the "rehashes" as they have been refered to
 as.
 
 The same fanbase that is being addressed here in this thread
 became fans through music like Aphex. This was an
 aphextwin.nu message board.
 
 With that in mind, I think it is quite fair for people to be
 disappointed with Black Devil as it isn't really all that
 compairable with aphex style music.
 
 Notice how people are buzzing over the analord series. We
 are all fans of aphex and that is what brought us here. I
 dont think it is fair at all to judge us for not necessarly
 liking Tik Tok (although i did find it interesting)
 
 I think it would be nice if astrid-gil-botn would still come
 and inform us of future releases instead of acting
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         |  tolstoyed
             from the ocean on 2004-11-28 11:02 [#01408710] Points: 50073 Status: Moderator | Followup to virginpusher: #01408708
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 | you should learn to like. 
 
 
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         |  virginpusher
             from County Clare on 2004-11-28 11:18 [#01408727] Points: 27325 Status: Lurker | Followup to tolstoyed: #01408710
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         |  thecurbcreeper
             from United States on 2004-11-28 11:20 [#01408730] Points: 6045 Status: Lurker
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 | lately i've been warming up a bit to rephlex releases 
 
 
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