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i dunno there's like no idm/breakcore scene in chicago. and it's been a really long time since i've been really excited about a new release. like sure it's good but it doesn't have the same effect anymore. the feeling i had the first time i listened to venetian snares (doll doll doll) i was amazed and just blown away. and now it's just like. i dunno, a few weeks ago i was listening to big loada with this girl, and she said "there's not a whole lot you can do with electronic music." and at the time i sort of laughed and didn't think much of it, but she's right. there's nothing unbelievably new and original anymore. i dunno if i can keep digging this scene much longer. |
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why not experiment with new sounds and techniques until you can create a new form of electronic music? isn't that what all our favorite electronic artists did? |
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shut the fuck up about the unoriginality of music. why don't you go make some original groundbreaking music yourself. |
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it's easier to crit other artists instead of doing something yourself. |
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what? i wasn't criticizing roygbivcore in any way whatsoever. i'm a fan of his music. it was a generalized answer aimed at the question, not anyone in particular. |
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change comes from a lack of satisfaction in current climates all forms of art are valid and can be done well even something as iffy as polka or country or ballet or opera those things can be and have been done well but it seems to me that the issue isnt with where its going, it seems more with you. you cant enjoy big loada? well, seems youve had a change of heart or are in a rut. trying listening to something you are TOTALLY not knowledgable or competent in. if its jazz, then listen to only jazz for awhile. i have to do this sometimes, or i get bored with music. i need challenged. just start digging... see what you come up with. |
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I was talking about how roygbivcore was giving crits, I'm agreeing with your post. |
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i kind of jumped ahead with what i was thinking. i thought the point was that he wanted to hear new developments in electronic music. since it is unlikely that one can will other artists to produce new music, i was merely pointing out that one would have to take it upon himself to breathe new life into what he is dissatisfied with. sorry if i said that in the wrong way before. |
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i do agree with you r40f, as far as that goes... those who see what needs to be taken to the next level kind of have to be the ones to do it |
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this person sounds uncreative. "scene" " "there's not a whole lot you can do"? gimmie a break. Sky's the limit. |
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the options do run out if you keep thinking in genres like "breakcore" or "idm" or whatever. just listen to some other music. or don't listen at all, give it a rest. |
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i didn't mean to hurt anyones feelings MY BAD, PRECIOUS |
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I'm okay, thanks. |
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christ, look what you're doing to me!!! I thought we'd lost you forever then! don't do that!! |
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I know, I'm sorry.. I just went a little insane there, I guess.. |
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i'm in love with everybody's girl |
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i agree...electronic music is not entertaining me as much as it used to anymore. that's why im listening to a lot of rockish music lately - i've missed a lot of good stuff in the time i was totally focused on electronic music. |
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"there's not a whole lot you can do with electronic music." hahahahahahahahahahaha.... |
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you basically have exact control over just about every aspect of the music. so yeah, that cuts your options. |
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has it been released any good stuff latly in any genre? i dont think so.I almost only listen to music from the 80s or the 90s |
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uggh.. all the continious whining about "theres no good stuff anymore", "IDM is dying".. |
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There are basically three types of music maker... Pioneer: Often overlooked by everyone other than the Biter. Biter: Takes a pioneers work and adds a level of commercial appeal to it. Emulation: People who try to emulate one or many Biters. People can move between these categories...it is when they get stuck in the second or third that they become dissatified and start complaining. |
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"you basically have exact control over just about every aspect of the music." I quite like it when things just happen, and its not all so contrived :) |
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name some new artists then that can be compared with example Joy division,Aphex,The smiths |
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All three of those mentioned fall into the Biters category. |
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yawn :) that would only be up to you. comparisons are quite personal imo. . |
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do you find yourself to be in any of those three? narrowed down and nicely boxed up. |
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you are tham right about the three categorys smart thinking but you are wrong about them i mentioned should fall in the biters catagory they fall in the pioneer catagory |
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Yes...I spent a lot of my time trying to emulate...but then I would attempt to do something completely new and different. Normally it never made it out of whatever session I was working on (ie. I delete it rather than save), occassionally it did, and when posted get a range of responses from wank to good. But I don't make music any more. |
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there are very few pioneers, compared to biters and emulaters. Stockhausen is a pioneer, Arnold Schonberg (not the composer of Les Miserables, the other Schonberg) is a pioneer... |
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Name a form of music Aphex pioneered? The Smiths never pioneered their sound, neither did Joy Division. The pioneers are the ones you very really hear about unless you become deeply entrenched within a particular genre. |
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you don't make music anymore? just a love/hate relationship probably :) |
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just because you have exact control doesn't immediately mean it has to sound contrived. that's beside the point - that can happen with any piece of music, even when created totally randomly. |
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I like tracks that have a feeling of spontaneity, for example I've been listening to a lot of John Lennon lately and it sounds so... pure, kind of. when i used to make electronic music, it kind of lost that spontaneity - to me, that is. |
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Aphex was first with the experimental idm on Hangable Auto Bulb that he refined on Richard d James Album almost everyone bited that sound which squarepusher is still doing :) |
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while he probably spent quite a lot of time recording and re-recording etc. to get just that sound. |
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you're working a bit too hard tonight don't you think? don't overdo it. |
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..what? |
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yeah, but it sounds spontaneous. I think it's what comes with being in a band, and not doing it all by urself. |
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i was trying to be warm, pleasant and stuff. i thought you worked here. |
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I think alot of the problem comes with people thinking inside the box, the box being the kind of music they write. If you think about the whole spectrum of thing you could do and the sounds you could put into what you do. We could achieve alot more. Thinking outside the box is the key i think. |
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or if u just make the box bigger... so you just make music, rather than saying "i make electronic music, i make rock music, etc..." just say "i make music" |
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oh! HA! sorry.. :) |
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Hmm, i see where you heading with that. I have never just made electronic music i do alot of different things, it helps. |
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I think it music comes in waves, and right now we're in a, i don't know what the word is, not a wave. I remember listening to the art of noise, new order, the durrutti column, electro, and my dad got me a cheapy keyboard and I tried to make my own tracks, and play along with the guitar, and then Aphex came along and it was like "fuck, that's it". And there was a sample in one track by the Orb that says something like "I've been waiting for music like this all my life", and that's what it felt like. What music are you waiting to hear now? |
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something exciting... |
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it's completely personal. it depends on what your tastes are, in general and at the time. |
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I've found Richard Devine's - Asect:Dsect to be the most innovative, inspiring music I've heard in years. I listen to it over and over and over. I agree for the most part with the orginal thread post. I'm consistently disapointed by most of today's electronic music. I refuse to listen to anything electronic that I feel isn't better or at least in the quality ballpark of Autechre, Aphex Twin, Squarepusher or BOC. I'd rather listen to those guys on repeat than waste my time with an inferior product. So I too can get disheartened with the seeming lack of innovation going on in this genre. But every two or three years an artist inevitably comes along that blows my head. After two respectable albums Richard Devine's talent has finally come to full realization and I've added him to my list of the electronic music elite. Now I've just got to sit back and wait for the next great artist to emerge. Somewhere there's a 16 year old doing crazy shit with Supercollider, Reaktor, Max/MSP and C Sound. Currently I think Matmos and Fennesz have the most potential to become truly great. |
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