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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-08-16 00:54 [#01305783]
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Alien vs Predator was such a disapointment, that I promptly made some popcorn, fired up the bigscreen, turned off the lights, took off my pants and put on Predator (1987) to numb the pain. It has so many things going for it-
1- Arnie at the top of his game- he's ripped as hell, has that military spikey hairdo, spits out the stupidest, awesomest one-liners with aplomb, and totally fucks up the Predator's shit. Seriously, he's a presence here, right from his first scene. My favorite Arnold role.
2- beautiful scenery. Get this DVD spinning hot, progressive scan, and you can breathe in the moisture and heat. I think trudging around in a forest like that holding a fucking gatling gun is everybody's dream. Big tough guys, boxed in by a bigger, tougher environment.
3- 95% of the time in action movies, when it's building to the climax, I'm pretty bored in spite of the onscreen mayhem. Most of the time I've had my fill of violence and quirky quips by the time the first 75 minutes are through ... but not here. The last 20-25 minutes are intense and primal.
4- Arnie at the top of his game- he's ripped as hell, has that military spikey hairdo, spits out the stupidest, awesomest one-liners with aplomb, and totally fucks up the Predator's shit. Seriously, he's a presence here, right from his first scene. My favorite Arnold role.
5- Alan Silvestri's score- riveting strings and brass. The commandos and the Predator's respective fucking ups are intensified by that music. And I love when the camera is sweeping through the jungle... symbiotic relationship between the action/drama (drama?) and the sound.
Who likes Predator? I expect some hearty ''fuck yeahs'' and a few simple 5 line sentences saying it sucks.
And what do you think of Predator 2? From Arnold at the height of his powers, to Danny Glover... uhhh... and I partially blame them, because that Alien skull in the trophy room had something to do with AVP!
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-08-16 00:57 [#01305786]
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Don't ask me what a 5 line sentence is... I just don't know anymore.
When they eradicate a few acres of rainforest with 5 metric tons of bullets, that's awesome.
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Sepix
from Major City (Austria) on 2004-08-16 01:02 [#01305788]
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i love the design and especially the noise the killer-tortoise makes
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-08-16 01:03 [#01305789]
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it's okay. a fun flick. the predator still looks good these days, special effects-wise I mean.
the second one sucked.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-08-16 01:05 [#01305790]
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Yeah, the Predator is pretty darn slick. Hasn't dated much at all... though one my my only qualms with the film is that they don't show enough of him... that invisible suit sure is a convenient way to avoid filming potentially unconvincing shots of a 7'2'' guy jumping around in rubber.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-08-16 01:17 [#01305801]
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got it on DVD great film
love Predator Predator is "tolerable on a Sunday if there's fuck all on TV"
love the Alien films
AvP hasn't come out here yet, but i'm only going to watch it to rip the shit out of the plotline and stuff
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-08-16 01:17 [#01305802]
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have you ever seen what the Predator was SUPPOSED to look like?
*scoffs*
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-08-16 01:20 [#01305804]
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I don't think I have! Got any pics? Is it in the special features or anything?
I read that it was supposed to have a long neck, a dog's head, and one eye... and at one point, pint sized Jean Claude Van Damme was going to play him.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-08-16 01:22 [#01305807]
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no unfortunately i don't have pics :( i haven't reinstalled all the stuff on my Mac, so i can't screen grab from my DVD
but yeah, it had some fucked up head, long neck, one eye
it's hilarious!
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-08-16 01:33 [#01305813]
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another thing i love about Predator - it was made during a time when the film that was used to record the movies had a grain, quite a distinctive grain.
i LOVE grain in films. Terminator, Aliens, Predator....all good examples of grain in a movie which give character to it.
well in my opinion it does.
it's a shame that everything is so digital nowadays
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-08-16 01:38 [#01305819]
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by far one of the greatest action movie's ever made,
"bleed?..I aint got time to bleed"
"got time to duck?"
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-08-16 01:40 [#01305820]
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Agreed. It adds some ''warmth'' to it... or something to that effect. Makes a great looking movie look even sweeter.
Speaking of the '80s, Tremors is on TBS right now... but I can't watch it, there's music to be absorbed. I've seen it about 10 times, anyway. For some reason, I really like Michael Gross... Family Ties was nice.
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Sepix
from Major City (Austria) on 2004-08-16 01:40 [#01305821]
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"it's a shame that everything is so digital nowadays"
so true, hach the good old times =)
and to the second part - it could have been worse - the sex scene at the beginning and the mortal kombat move in the subs are gorgeous :D
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-08-16 01:44 [#01305822]
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Ophecks
Tremors is cool, haven't seen that for a few years - love the big shootout on that thing!
Sepix
what mortal kombat move? remembering that Predator 2 came out before Mortal Kombat did
either way, Predator created the hand-held minigun.....if it wasn't for Predator, there'd be no minigun in Terminator 2, no chaingun in DOOM, no chaingun in Quake II / III Arena
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-08-16 01:49 [#01305825]
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The same twit (forgot his generic name at the moment) that directed AVP and the horrible Resident Evil movie, did Mortal Kombat... I think it's from '94. Christopher Lambert as Raiden.
I saw it in theatres, and thought it was pretty darn cool! But I was 10... the fight scenes were pretty hectic, a high punch/kick-per-second rate. I'll have to download it sometime and see if it's as cool as I remember.
Way better than the Street Fighter movie. What a bad way for Raul Julia to end his career, heh...
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-08-16 01:51 [#01305827]
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yeah i know that Paul Anderson did MK, and he did Resident Evil (which is why i shall NEVER see that film)
I too, saw it when i was 10, at the cinema (lucky i passed for 15!) and at the time, because I was into Power Rangers, i fucking loved it. Oh yeah, i also loved it because i was into the game majorly, but anyways....trust me - it's NOT as good as you remember it was!
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-08-16 01:56 [#01305828]
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It might not be as GOOD as I remember it, but maybe it'll still be cool...
Nah.
Well at least I remember Kitana and Mileena having some nice legs, and Scorpion's spear having a neat organic special effect. That's something to look forward to.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-08-16 01:59 [#01305829]
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Scorpion's spear having a neat organic special effect.
hehe, how we all thought computer graphics were so good back then.
i think maybe you'll laugh at it nowadays mate ;)
so tell me - is Lance Henrikson really in AvP?
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-08-16 04:21 [#01305897]
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I'm watching it if he is.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2004-08-16 04:26 [#01305899]
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if the predator could only see using heat how come he didn't trip over branches and rocks and stuff?
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-08-16 04:32 [#01305901]
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because branches still give off a temperature reading
and the temperature of a branch will differ from the temperature of a rock
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2004-08-16 04:35 [#01305903]
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don't talk sure.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2004-08-16 04:36 [#01305904]
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for sure read shit.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-08-16 04:37 [#01305905]
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I think he had three different ways of seeing...
hi, bill!
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-08-16 04:38 [#01305906]
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heh
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-08-16 04:40 [#01305909]
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no, Predator 2 introduced the multiple views in Predator 1, the only sights we saw were the heatvision from the helmet, and that red-haze view when he took the helmet off
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2004-08-16 04:41 [#01305910]
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predator was gay.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-08-16 04:44 [#01305911]
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bill: quite possibly... he did have a thing for man-flesh, at least...
oscillik: predator 2? the one where he's in the city, and it's like this bad copy of 7even/any crime movie?
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-08-16 04:45 [#01305912]
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yes, the really bad one
the one in the city
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-08-16 04:46 [#01305913]
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The sequel was absolutely tragic.
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-08-16 05:02 [#01305916]
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so whats wrong with AvP?
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-08-16 05:16 [#01305922]
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12 certificate?
need i say more?
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rudster
from the glasgow on 2004-08-16 05:18 [#01305923]
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yeah this is definetely my fav arnie film as well as my fav action, ive seen it about 30 times.
"Cmon! Doo eet, kill me...... cmon kill me i'm ere!! Cmon!!!"
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-08-16 05:21 [#01305928]
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How about "RUN!!!! GET TO THA CHOPPAAAAA!!!!"
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-08-16 05:21 [#01305930]
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You're one. Ugly. Mallafacker.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-08-16 05:21 [#01305931]
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"what the hell are you"
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-08-16 05:22 [#01305933]
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"raaaaaaaaaaaRRRGGH!"
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rudster
from the glasgow on 2004-08-16 05:25 [#01305936]
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"Stick around"
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-08-16 05:25 [#01305937]
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This stuff'll make you a goddamn sexual Tyranasaur... just like me.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-08-16 05:26 [#01305939]
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the award for best quote goes to Jarworski, the sexual tyrannosaur
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-08-16 05:26 [#01305940]
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"ooooungh"
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-08-16 05:26 [#01305941]
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"ggg..grrrruuuuaauaaaah"
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rudster
from the glasgow on 2004-08-16 05:29 [#01305946]
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"...bunch of slack jawed faggots..."
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2004-08-16 05:29 [#01305949]
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Hey Predator 2 ain't all that bad either. It got some cool scenes like the one where the predator throws the razor disc in the meat factory thru like seven cows before beheading the badguy.
And it got a classic line spoken by the Jamaican gangster that me and my friends like to quote whenever theres a money issue.
"This is not abot money.....it is abot POWAAA!!!"
(Patwa accent)
Agreed that the first is the best tho. It was very cool the first time i saw it. The tape was just leing around at my home and i poped it in the vcr , "Oh cool , a war movie" i thought and had no idea there was gona contain a big fucking alien that was sorta a mix betwen Boba Fet and Pumba from the lion king. The surprice hightened my experience.
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zero-cool
on 2004-08-16 05:29 [#01305950]
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yes this film is great, and also the year is awsome
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-08-16 05:32 [#01305957]
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"ccckckcckkcrkrkrckcckkr"
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k_maty
on 2004-08-16 05:32 [#01305959]
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you have to see the tv version, where he grabs the guy and yells in his face: "It's all BALOGNA!"
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-08-16 05:35 [#01305970]
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"rrrrrrrrrrrck"
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-08-16 05:47 [#01305989]
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Haha
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-08-16 05:48 [#01305991]
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TV edits are great.
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