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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-08-06 22:50 [#01297685]
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i was originally going to post this in the draft 7:30 thread... but then i realized i wanted to make a general recommendation for these guys anyway... plus, as much as it does resemble ae in spots... most might find the comparison misleading... as in general, this stuff is a lot more noise based than it is rhythm based... i'll probably post more stuff here later... here's what i had originally planned on posting:
"for things similar in avant sensibility to autechre... i would recommend hunting stuff down by some of the swiss electro-acoustic improvisers... it's definitely not as rhythmically driven (well certainly not always), but texturally, i think they are pretty similar... anything by the members of Poire_Z (Gunter Muller, Erik M or Norber Moslang and Andy Guhl aka Voice Crack)... might be of interest... some stuff by Muller is a pretty far cry from autechre, as he is a very versatile collaborator... but it's all definitely worth hearing if you don't mind stuff that is more noise/texture driven that beat driven...
La Voyelle Liquide
Oystered
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-08-07 01:42 [#01297717]
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looks like cool stuff... i'll try to check it out
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-08-10 13:56 [#01300415]
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boom
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uzim
on 2004-08-10 14:14 [#01300425]
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listening to the extract off the first link you posted...definitely close to Autechre, both sound a bit alike, both very robotic, very cold, very weird.
interesting, but i probably won't check any further, because of that... having 6 Autechre releases and 2 collaborations is already far too much. besides, it seems very rare (Poire_Z) and hard to get, am i wrong...
thanks for posting this though =) and Autechre lovers, check it out...
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-08-10 14:17 [#01300430]
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i really wish you had slsk so i could send it to you... because that particular album is not that much like ae when you have the chance to actually sit down with it... it is sort of difficult to get though... yes... (no more difficult than Solilioque for Lilith though! :D)
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-08-10 14:21 [#01300432]
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*whispers* you see i'm actually trying to trick people into stepping into an entirely different musical universe... so far my attempts have not been successful, so i figured i'd through the "ae" word around... (and don't get me wrong... there are aesthetic similarities... at least so far as both entities are very meticulous in their attention to detailed texture)... but really that particular album is a mind-fuck all its own...
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uzim
on 2004-08-10 14:36 [#01300437]
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hmm.. ok : )
(i wish i had slsk too!!)
about "stepping into an entirely different musical universe", have you ever heard something by Bernhard Günter? or off the Trente Oiseaux label (even though everything on the label isn't like that)... the genre is sometimes called "lowercase music", it's music that really requires -and deserves- a lot of attention for it's almost silencious, very subtle sounds and compositions... lots of silence too.. it's as minimalistic as it's affecting, it's crazy how it manages to convey such emotions/ambiance with so few sounds - if you haven't heard, i recommend "Un Peu De Neige Salie".
http://www.trenteoiseaux.com/ http://www.bernhardguenter.net/ (though none of these sites have sound samples, which is a shame - you can find some by searching http://www.aquariusrecords.org, and maybe http://www.allmusic.com but i'm not sure)
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uzim
on 2004-08-10 14:37 [#01300438]
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(ha, i must have said-recommended this a million times now ^^ sorry if you have already checked it out...)
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-08-10 14:40 [#01300441]
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i have heard one of his albums... not that one... though... i will try to find it, since you think so highly of it... and the fact that you like that kind of stuff is exactly why i think you are someone who would like a lot of EAI stuff... it's minimal, it's maximal... but if you put in a little effort, the pay-out is huge...
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uzim
on 2004-08-10 14:47 [#01300444]
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ok, i'll remember the name and search for it!
(which album do you have?)
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-08-10 15:01 [#01300450]
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EAI = Electro-Acoustic Improv = ambiguous genre distinction
recommended releases off the top of my head:
View From The Window
Time Travel
The World Turned Upside Down
this album
Brackwater
Strange Love
but really there are tonnes of thrilling improvisers out there... this is just a small selection...
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Gonzola
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2004-08-10 15:15 [#01300460]
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It sounds like i'm gonna like it... i've been looking for something like that, autechre but more noisy. merzbow is good but sometimes i'd like some harmonies in it. I'll definately check it out!
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