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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-08-01 14:31 [#01292425]
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did anyone ever do a live set making music on a laptop ever ? i want to get started with these things, and i want to buy a laptop asap.
i played a bit with ableton, and i like it very much especially the new version with midi rolls - nothing better then creating own melodies live.
but ableton seems very "loopy" for me - like just created for club music.
so i thought - is it possible to play live from floops or reason ? how ?? anyone done it ? maybe someone can answer me some more questions then !!
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-08-01 14:40 [#01292442]
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come on... i'll invite you all when i make a gig :)
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fungusman
from Monster Island on 2004-08-01 14:42 [#01292451]
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Midi Controllers Mon Frar
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-08-01 14:53 [#01292470]
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thinking about getting the biggest evolution one - seems nice and not too expensive for me... but i have to now some soft !!
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-08-01 15:01 [#01292485]
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yet another question - what to buy ? amd, celeron or p 3/4 ??
i can get a p3 1700 mhz and a celeron 2200 mhz for the same money... so what should i choose ??
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2004-08-01 15:28 [#01292520]
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I would go for the p3. Celerons aren't a good alternative these days IMO. Personally I would get an AMD model, I find them better value.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-08-03 05:17 [#01293957]
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more help ??
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-08-03 05:25 [#01293964]
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I just wrote this as an answer to your question in the other thead, but I'll write it here as well:
for pc laptops, you should get a centrino processor.. that is the laptop processor, and all the other processors can't
run at their full capacity (a 3ghz pentium would NEVER run at 3ghz) because of the heat.
You don't need an internal soundcard, as laptop-soundcards suck.. you'll have to get an external one (M-audio firewire
401 is apparently pretty good, but if you have money there are many better ones!).
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gack
from the middle of nowhere (Germany) on 2004-08-03 05:28 [#01293971]
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i´m planning the same thing.
decision clear:
ableton live 4
G4 powerbook 15" superdrive (1.5 GHz, minimum 1GB ram)
a midi controller box (propably a cheap one by dopefer)
and: you will definitely need an external audio device. i´m not sure yet if i get the m-audio firewire 410 interface or rme hammerfall multiface... the second one is sounding much better and has almost no latency for it runs with pci cardbus (it´s pretty expensive, though...).
i do not know what kind music you plan to perform, but ableton is as well a very nice software for doing ambient / drone stuff .
i think that when i bought all this, i won´t be able to afford food for years... so what.
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grinningcat
from london (United Kingdom) on 2004-08-03 05:49 [#01293984]
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why dont u rewire reason into live
get the m-audio quattro , i picked one up second hand for £95
who can sort me out a copy of live 4? insert soulseek names here please!
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Schika
from Heidelberg (Germany) on 2004-08-03 05:51 [#01293986]
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I recommend you this: G4 PowerBook 17"
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-08-03 05:54 [#01293988]
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what I really recommend: HARDWARE! You'll even get a better stage-show!!!
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gack
from the middle of nowhere (Germany) on 2004-08-03 05:59 [#01293990]
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i´ve done that for years and at the moment i am a bit pissed by the limitations (i had completely analogue gear on stage, every synth doing a single sound blabla...). so i´m about to try the alternative, best would be mixing both technologies, e.g. the described setup with my good old sh101 added.
and: with a 8 out - interface, you can route the signals to a conventional mixer and then fuck them up wit any sorts of shitty effect pedals etc.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-08-03 06:02 [#01293994]
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I'm talking live sampling and stuff like that... not just sequencers and lots of synths...
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gack
from the middle of nowhere (Germany) on 2004-08-03 06:04 [#01293995]
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okay, i don´t have experience with that. sampling bores me to death.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-08-03 06:07 [#01293996]
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it's not that kind of sampling.. you have with you, on stage, a piano, a drum-set, a guitar.. whatever you feel like + a sampler, and then you play one thing and create a small loop. You then play another thing on top of it while possibly using an fx-pedal to alter the thing you recorded earlier (separate fx-loops per sample on the sampler is necessary...), and then you create an entire song before the audience's very eyes! You may even include them in the song (have them shout or sing something.. or clap.. audiences are good at clapping...)! That's a pretty good stage-show as opposed to a guy, hovering over a laptop, doing things you can't see...
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gack
from the middle of nowhere (Germany) on 2004-08-03 06:10 [#01293999]
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sounds like a lot of fun. - but: not suitable for what i do musically...
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-08-03 06:12 [#01294001]
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ok.
do you have any tracks on-line?
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gack
from the middle of nowhere (Germany) on 2004-08-03 06:19 [#01294007]
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hmm...
yes, there is a complete liveset from 2003 to be found here.
you can as well watch this video documentation showing a typical live setup. (watch out, filesize 280mb, but worth watching - nice atmosphere).
i´m appearing there as one half of PARACHUTE.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-08-03 06:23 [#01294015]
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ah.. is this what is referred to as "drone" or something like that?!
not my cup of tea, anyway...
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-08-04 13:08 [#01295264]
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thx for the feedback !! i'm not sure about macs - they are pretty expensive and i want to use floops as well...
i think i get - athlon 2,2 ghz, 512 mb ram and 40 giga harddrive... soundblaster external card and an evolution controller... i hope i do right :D
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