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happy cycling
from berlin on 2004-08-01 09:59 [#01292161]
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remember way back, when god used to be awesome? god was new, and there was so much exciting god stuff coming out.. of course everyone knew the bible, it became mainstream so fast, but there was the divine comedy, and the confessions of augustine, and other stuff.. there was so much stuff being produced, but it was all indie..
ow it's such a trite scene.. the churchs are all so old, and everyone looks kinda bored, and kids think it's so cool to wear a cross.. it's like, hello, you're two thousand years too late!
*sigh* god used to rule.. but god is so dead now, and we have killed him. i need something new. maybe scientology.
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2004-08-01 10:05 [#01292165]
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There is no god.
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welt
on 2004-08-01 10:06 [#01292166]
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god is okay.
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-08-01 10:19 [#01292183]
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HAHAHA wicked.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-08-01 10:20 [#01292185]
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Perhaps the new religion is music. It is, after all, also a very successful replicator.
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Atli
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-08-01 11:41 [#01292271]
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well, the concept "god" excists
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-08-01 11:57 [#01292282]
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God is dead. Long live God. But his concepts and constructs live on.
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fungusman
from Monster Island on 2004-08-01 12:01 [#01292284]
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What kind of car does this God guy drive?
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-08-01 12:03 [#01292288]
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There's a fungus among us.
He drives a Pinto, I think.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-08-01 12:06 [#01292289]
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oh, totally
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ChildrenTalking
from United States on 2004-08-01 12:07 [#01292290]
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the bible is the number 1 selling book on the entire planet so i dont really feel god is dead. maybe just inexistence in the spiritiual sense in some of us. in judeo belief god is everything and everyone and a lot of people have no problem in feeling merciful to the phenomena of his power and energy it instills in some peoples life, because humans feel they're imperfect and find guidance in his perfection. without principles and values some lose perspective in life and thats why they use religion specifically because thats where those very same principles were derived from. so i personally dont feel god is dead, and neither do i obsess about the unknown. i just try to live my life the best way i know how given what i've learned along the way (dont we all)
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fungusman
from Monster Island on 2004-08-01 12:31 [#01292304]
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"1 selling book on the entire planet"
Lets not forget the phone book my good friend. I'd bet the farm there are more phone books then the bibla.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-08-01 12:33 [#01292307]
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people are weak and stupid, thats why they leave everything behind and confide in a man who's been dead for 2000 years.
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Q4Z2X
on 2004-08-01 12:34 [#01292309]
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god is alive today as much as (s)he/it ever was, or ever will be.
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ChildrenTalking
from United States on 2004-08-01 12:37 [#01292313]
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there is no definitve phone book for the entire planet it vary's from area. i think dictionary would've been a better example.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-08-01 12:40 [#01292316]
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some people in this thread are missing the point.
like:
they're here ---> x
and the point is at the bottomleft of the screen.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-08-01 12:43 [#01292318]
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yeah! god sells the most books so he must exist.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-08-01 12:55 [#01292326]
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i'm not a very religous person and that is probably because of the fact that i was raised in a house without much religion. i think this could be why god was so important to the world 2000 years ago and not today. 2000 years ago, the state and the church were one. you went to church or you burned at the stake. people were poor, suffering from disease, starving. God was their only ticket out. Now you only go to church out of choice. Nobody (in the US anyway) can tell you what to believe or worship. most of us aren't suffering. many of us don't need God anymore to give us hope because we can fend for ourselves.
God might be dead in the mainstream. But God still exists to the people who believe. I'm not one of those people.
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ChildrenTalking
from United States on 2004-08-01 13:03 [#01292328]
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evolume u know that is not was i trying to say, great spin though... i'm not a god promoter i'm just making my point that she is alive and well in peoples heart. i wouldnt consider myself to be a religious person i'm just stating the point that god cannot be distinguished because human beings are always in search for a greater sense of well being.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2004-08-01 13:27 [#01292336]
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Godgodgod.
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2004-08-01 13:35 [#01292338]
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"Marge, you're always taking sides... the mailman... Flanders... God..."
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-08-01 13:57 [#01292360]
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come on man this is bogus
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2004-08-01 15:04 [#01292488]
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haha. good fun, good fun.
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2004-08-01 15:26 [#01292517]
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God is not dead. God is not alive. God does not and has never existed. End of story.
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hobbes
from age on 2004-08-01 17:44 [#01292714]
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A panda walks into a cafe. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then draws a gun and fires two shots in the air.
"Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes towards the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.
"I'm a panda," he says, at the door. "Look it up."
The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation.
"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to china. Eats, shoots and leaves."
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2004-08-01 17:49 [#01292722]
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Why does the topic of religion constantly appear on this board? I think the name of XLT needs changing to XLT-RELIGIOUS-DEBATES. You silly silly people. Nobody knows the truth so what's the point of saying stuff like this? Our opinions have as much value as a bag of sand, and each bag of sand weiging and costing the same amount as any other.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2004-08-01 17:50 [#01292726]
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btw hobbes, that joke made me snigger, thanks
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hobbes
from age on 2004-08-01 17:56 [#01292738]
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for some reason i'm reading a rather fun book on punctuation.
the writer is a total militant. apparently she always has a marker with her ready for badly punctuated bilboards and signs.
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hobbes
from age on 2004-08-01 17:58 [#01292740]
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...and i thought this example was somehow appropriate for this thread.
i dunno.
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hobbes
from age on 2004-08-01 18:00 [#01292742]
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A woman, without her man, is nothing.
A woman: without her, man is nothing.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2004-08-01 18:01 [#01292744]
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Ha!
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-08-01 18:13 [#01292756]
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yo, i know. i was just kidding.
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zguru
from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2004-08-01 19:17 [#01292832]
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quoted from collin quin show on comedy central...
i know jesus drives an automatic, cause... have you ever tried to change gears with a hole in your hand.
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Motha Fucka
from Selvaggina (Brazil) on 2004-08-01 21:49 [#01292897]
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FUCK YOU GOD! FUCK ME! FUCK YOU ALL! FUCK FUCK FUCK!
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mrgypsum
on 2004-08-01 22:05 [#01292901]
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i wonder, is that what people said about the "thing" before god? were people like, hey this stuff is getting so old and tired and there is so much of it around that it is garbage now. that god might be dead, but there always will be a new god that comes along and takes the torch from the old one. and you will have yourself with a brand new god scene, with a new bible. who knows if that hasent already happened yet? can any one person say they were there when the torch was passed? and what the fuck are we all talking about, god or music.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-08-01 22:22 [#01292911]
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what the fuck are you saying?
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mrgypsum
on 2004-08-01 22:32 [#01292921]
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the person who first posted this thread used god when talking about something, i think he was referring to music or idm or whatever, and then everyone after kind of missed the point, except for qrter.
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2004-08-02 00:31 [#01292944]
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I think that the topic of religion is perhaps the most important topic in the world today, more so than even politics (though of course, both are linked).
Religious beliefs originally came about to provide man with a convenient means of explaining the inexplicable. As we have learned more about the universe many of the things we explained away with religion have now been explained not through prayer, burning bushes, mountain-top revelations and the like, but through scientific discovery.
Giving credence to religion is like giving credence to astrology, clairvoyance and the healing power of crystals. All utter tosh lacking any basis in reality.
I say that religion is the most important topic in the world today because it's fundamentally holding mankind back. Look at the state of the US with it's poisonous mix of religion and right-wing politics, look at the rise of Islamic fundamentalism. I say enough is enough. It's time we stopped believing in things for which no evidence has ever been produced and set about expanding our knowledge in the realm of science, through which our efforts and our resources will be inifinitely more beneficial to mankind.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2004-08-02 06:39 [#01293091]
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Danbrusca, like I said before, 'If we don't know the truth (because nobody can know) then how can one opinion be more correct than another?'. Whilst the Bible may be a load of 'tosh' as you put it, it still carries strong morals that would make the world a better place if were followed. I can see things from your point of view very clearly but I think that your opinion has narrowed your views quite considerably, to the point where you think that you are correct and nobody can prove you wrong. Religion is about faith, and faith has no fact. If you chose to follow your life by nothing then died to find that there was truth in what you'd heard, then don't you think it was pointless not following anything?
I agree with you on the level that religion has corrupted the world, in that people choose to kill those who oppose, but I can't remember the Bible saying, 'Kill thy neighbour'. Of course everything that I have said can be argued with but it is pointless arguing about it because nobody can tell me that I am wrong, because, nobody knows the truth. That is something that I have said many a time and will probably believe it for the rest of my life.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-08-02 06:44 [#01293092]
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2004-08-02 08:59 [#01293197]
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I don't think I'm correct at all. On this issue I know that I'm correct.
You say that my opinion has narrowed my views so much that I don't think anybody can prove me wrong. I suggest that you are the one with the narrow view, unable to see past years of subtle indoctrination that religion has no basis in reality. Have you thought about why I would think nobody can prove me wrong? Is it perhaps because nobody can prove me wrong? Can you offer any evidence as to the scientific validity of any religion?
Faith is the ultimate cop-out of the religious. A convenient way to excuse themselves from the burden of having to prove anything. If I say to you that there are fairies living at the bottom of my garden, but I have no evidence to prove it, you just have to have faith that they are there, would you believe that there were indeed fairies at the bottom of my garden? How do you explain the huge diversity of religions out there, all their adherents having faith that their religion is the right religion. They can't all be right. Which one is?
You tell me the truth cannot be known. The truth can of course be known. We're stuck to the earth because of gravity, the earth orbits the sun. These are facts, indisputable truths. Religion has none of these.
As for the bible, yeah, sure it contains some good stuff. but it also contains a lot of wank. There was a guy on the radio last night who said he believed everything in the bible, so he was asked if he advocated the stoning of adulterers. He tried to evade answering this of course because it didn't fit in with the house of cards that are his religious beliefs. Christians have a knack of picking out the bits from the bible that they find palatable and conveniently ignoring the rest.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2004-08-02 09:10 [#01293204]
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'I don't think I'm correct at all. On this issue I know that I'm correct.'
lol
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2004-08-02 09:34 [#01293215]
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Disprove me.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2004-08-02 09:43 [#01293228]
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My opinion means that I respect yours as much as mine.
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2004-08-02 09:51 [#01293238]
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Sadly, I respect your opinion as much as I would someone who claimed that the earth is flat. Truth is we're not talking about opinions here, we're talking about facts.
I also note you didn't answer my questions.
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big
from lsg on 2004-08-02 10:09 [#01293251]
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was i talking to myself then just now?
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2004-08-02 10:12 [#01293254]
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Why would you want me to have the same opinion as yourself? Should I be a clone of you? Should I agree with everything you say? Am I talking to the new god, danbrusca? I can't answer your questions because I can't (I don't know the answers). Call me crazy but I think there might be something more to this Earth than science. I don't have beliefs to answer questions about this Earth. They are personal to me and I couldn't give a monkeys about what anybody has to say about it. You may think I'm some kind of simple person who thinks illogically, but if I agreed with you and lied then how would I be any different?
After I have written this you will reply with some highly intelligent string of sentances to prove me wrong or put me in my place. Do I care? No, I don't. I believe what I believe and you know what you know. Let's leave it at that shall we?
*offers to shake hand*
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2004-08-02 11:19 [#01293320]
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I'm no god, but I am mightily pissed off by religion. Once upon a time we thought the universe revolved around a flat earth, but we grew out of that nonsense. The time will come when we mankind grows out of religion too, stops trying to fill the gaps in it's knowledge with myths and actually evolves.
My replies to you haven't been about putting you in your place, I've been trying to liberate you.
I'm glad you didn't answer my questions, the very fact that you couldn't says a lot. Religion cannot stand up to the most basic attacks on it's logic.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-08-02 11:26 [#01293325]
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this thread sucks, shut up, talking about this is retarded
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2004-08-02 11:43 [#01293341]
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Go away and play with your Transformers or something ;)
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