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offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-07-27 17:58 [#01288085]
Points: 9856 Status: Lurker



life just couldnt get any worse, why oh why did i drop out
of school, there would be plenty of time to self destruct
myself with lazyness and drugs after graduation. ive become
habitual and depressed to this slow burn life leading
nowhere. allot of you are past this, and possibly have fair
enough jobs to live on. i cant do this labor shit my whole
life, im too intelligent to be lost in this mess. its
absolutely depressing. im going to school starting september
and im not fucking gonna slack off again. i wanna know how
you all passed this (if you did) and what it took to just
get a decent less demanding job on the body that pays
alright. i would like to choose this path before its too
late.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-07-27 18:08 [#01288090]
Points: 14042 Status: Lurker



"im going to school starting september
and im not fucking gonna slack off again."

sounds like you're going somewhere. Definatly the right
direction


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-07-27 18:11 [#01288091]
Points: 9856 Status: Lurker



yeah...

i still cant see my road clear enough though.
it may sound whiny but i wanna know your stories on how you
got where you are and what your job is.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-07-27 18:12 [#01288092]
Points: 14042 Status: Lurker



well, Im still in school...

is there a person with a job in the house?!


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-07-27 18:13 [#01288093]
Points: 9856 Status: Lurker



im so depressed, but there is a little bit of joy i can
pinch out of today, joe schmo 2 is on at 7 :D


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2004-07-27 18:17 [#01288094]
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i understand far too well


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-07-27 18:17 [#01288095]
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How old are you?


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-07-27 18:22 [#01288099]
Points: 9856 Status: Lurker | Followup to elusive: #01288095



between 17 and 19, you get 3 guesses and the first two dont
count.


 

offline J Swift from United Kingdom on 2004-07-27 18:22 [#01288100]
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I'm in the same boat at the moment - Kind of depressed (not
DARK depressed, just deflated and uninspired).

It's small town life that's getting me down - I've been away
from my home town, out of the scene, for a little while,
just getting my music shit together and having hayfever...

Now I'm at a point where I can go back to it - But with this
distance I see how pointless and cut-off it all feels! So
I'm finding myself not going back to my old life, and
looking for something new.

But yeah, apart from that I did drop out of college twice,
to smoke weed and take drugs, which I don't regret, because
I'm a better person for it fo' sure! But I have a terrible
track record with "regular" jobs, and unless I have some
life-chaging experience, I don't see that ever changing.

So I realise I'm better suited to freelance work - Which
I've done a fair bit of, writing, mastering, hopefully
releasing my own music soon, just full of self-doubt and the
stress of having to forge my own way, with no guarantees...

Also can't decide where I want to be in 5/10/15 years time
anyway - I think I'd go crazy resigning myself to a regular
job/lifestyle, unless I was with the right girl of course -
But that's a whole other can of worms.


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-07-27 18:26 [#01288104]
Points: 9856 Status: Lurker | Followup to J Swift: #01288100



i have no idea what i want to be. hell, when i used to get
high the great ganga buddha blessed me with loads of
creative thoughts and deep theories which cant amount to
words. but when the trips starting becoming bad, my
motivation drove off a cliff and my creativity is still
hitchhiking (haha i love metaphors)


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2004-07-27 18:28 [#01288107]
Points: 10031 Status: Regular | Followup to Gwely Mernans: #01288085



make sure you don't drop out again! i could be fucked with
college, just down to laziness and lots of dope, but having
to graft in a dead in job is not fun. you're surrounded by
dolts, fustrated that you know you're better than them but
can't prove it. i've dropped out twice, and selling pizza
for a living isnt fun. hopefully i'll break out of this shit
but yeah i sympathise, its depressing.


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2004-07-27 18:29 [#01288108]
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"But yeah, apart from that I did drop out of college twice,

to smoke weed and take drugs"

sounds like a familliar story :)


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-07-27 18:31 [#01288111]
Points: 9856 Status: Lurker



all too familiar


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-27 18:34 [#01288115]
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come to the "ATTENTION: epohs" thread!

things are going nowhere there too, and quite moderately
fast! but we're merry about it.


 

offline J Swift from United Kingdom on 2004-07-27 18:39 [#01288121]
Points: 650 Status: Regular



Still, you don't have to be settled in a career in your
early 20's!

I'd probably freak out even more if I was to be honest.

The good thing with all that time to think is that you can
sometimes get a much clearer perspective on things - People
who get "pushed" through the system (like half of my old
friends who did do uni straight after school) have ended up
getting to 23 with a degree in something they've absolutely
no interest in...

And, a BIG debt to clear!

I like the idea of starting my own business - I had a good
clothes business on ebay earlier in the year - Only problem
was having to deal with some pretty dodgy people from Asia -
Massive profits, but I started to freak out in case the tax
office ever took an interest...

But the UK's got an incredibly high sucess rate for new
businesses.


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2004-07-27 18:43 [#01288126]
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life sucks man..........lets make a suicide pact


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-07-27 18:44 [#01288128]
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it sucks...but apperantly time heals everything.


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-07-27 18:50 [#01288141]
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does it heal saggy skin and brittle bones and a rectum that
falls out of your ass everytime you try to shit in your
depends?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-07-27 18:57 [#01288150]
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you wont notice saggy skin in 200 years from now.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-27 18:58 [#01288154]
Points: 21462 Status: Regular



Going to college was the worst recommendation I've ever had.
Hmm, let me pay 4 thousand dollars for an excruciating mind
melt please (well owe in a loan anyway where interest has
already made it 6 thousand). I got a typical monkey job. Who
has more autonomy, more power, more freedom... the monkey or
the manager? Who is happier? It's a parasitic niche.. you
should try it. My only source of income is 7.45 an hour for
only 24 hours a week, and I can survive off of it. I never
have to drive on a freeway. I only buy gas once every couple
months. My rents only 425 a month and it's actually not too
shitty of an area. Well the fewer number of surrounding
humans, the less corrupt and evil the environment will be
which applies here.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-07-27 18:59 [#01288155]
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You're way too young for this.

Why did you drop out (of high school, I can only assume)?

What were your reasons? What year did you drop out in?

No one knows what they want to be when they are young.

Why put so much pressure on yourself?

Personally, I'm getting the idea that too much partying,
drinking, smoking, has clouded and muffeled your momentum,
forward.

You can't just 'turn around' in one day. I can only hope
that you'll continue on in school, realize that this is
hardly a quarter of your life that has passed...and will be
the hardest. Pressure is a pain in the ass...and you have
to overcome it. Find a new hobby, start exercising (if you
don't already).

Dude, it's great your asking for help....many people feel
too "emoitionally strong" or some bullshit like that to do
it. Fuck that, you have way too many years left to dick
around. It only takes a few good, hard years of work to
ease into a decent life. Take advantage of your age, as
things won't get easier in the future.

and as always, advice and help are at your request..

good day, m8


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-07-27 19:00 [#01288157]
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w M w,

if you feel that your college education was shit, well then
maybe that's because you didn't make enough out of it. It
sounds to me like you are quite hooked on a linear path
after college....that or you gave up....


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-27 19:15 [#01288170]
Points: 21462 Status: Regular



Change per unit time has been increasing exponentially. The
school system is unnecessary for modern times, yet still
enforced. It's a ancient relic that holds thinkers back if
anything. I just discovered that Richard Dawkins and Danny
Hillis, who could both think a patch on the ozone layer with
pulsing neursphere warlock spells, both "avoided formal
schooling and the pressures for social conformity that go
along with it."


 

offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-07-27 20:37 [#01288215]
Points: 7824 Status: Lurker



I had to move out of my home at the age of 16 because my
home life suddenly became rather volatile due to my parents
splitting up and both of them getting some fucked up
partners,

I spent the first 2 years of my life on my own at a
university accomodation (it's the only place I could find
that takes people as young as myself) working at a
supermarket 3 days a week, (not barely enough to cover rent,
let alone eat, needless to say I was pretty fucking heavily
malnourished during this time)

I had to ride my bike 10kilmoteres to work on some days, and
ride 2kilometres and catch a train on others, which was
quite a feat considering the lack of money I was getting

because I was living at the uni I had no access to the
internet, which up until that point was a major part of my
life,

it was hard

all of my friends also were'nt nearby anymore and I never
got to see any of my friends

these were some of the lowest times of my life

then I got back up on my feet and got a pizza delivery job,
but my car was so unreliable that it was a major stress
keeping the job and keeping my new apartment,

then I got a job working with my dad and getting an awesome
wage

and then i broke my leg

faced with the porbability of never walking again, my
parents both refused to take me back into their house, a
good friend of mine, an anime hermit who literally goes
weeks without seeing people and values his privacy more than
any person I know let me move in, without rent for 6
months,

I walked 1km a day on the crutches to try and rehabilitate
myself, to this day I'm not 'supposed' to be walking because
I could snap the plates in my leg, but the doctor himself
suggested that I ignore this device if I didn't want my
muscles to destroy themself forever due to not using them

when I got my foot working again I got back into work with
my dad and got my own place, I saved up rent months in
advance, and tyhen lost the job and survived off the rent I
had already paid and went literally 5 days at a time without
food



 

offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-07-27 20:50 [#01288222]
Points: 7824 Status: Lurker



.....and in the past few months I've had two of the nicest
people I know move in, I've gotten on centrelink benefits,
and I effectively don't even have to work to live with the
cashflow I'm receiving,

just from my flatmates paying their share of the rent I
don't really need an income for anything besides food and
leisure, (the place is in my name, so I can charge them what
i want, they are happy with the amount I charge though)

life is now awesome,.. my social life is extremely active
(it gets that way living with multiple people) and tomorrow,
I'm going for a job interview for my dream job of working in
an office building 38 hours a week,

you have to work towards getting yourself set up for a good
life, it's the small steps you take every day that make hte
difference, not the one or two big steps

-

things have to get better, if only in comparison to how shit
they may seem now, just remeber that it could always be a
lot worse, count your blessings not your damnings.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-07-27 20:57 [#01288223]
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w M w,

I'm sorry I still don't understand why


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-07-27 20:59 [#01288225]
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Refund,

Fucking, awesome...man.

Stories like this make me appreciate all the good luck I've
had, and def. show some great inspiration. Cheers!


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-07-27 21:05 [#01288227]
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Thanks, again..for sharing :)


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-27 21:15 [#01288229]
Points: 14294 Status: Lurker



slow burn


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-07-27 21:29 [#01288235]
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Refund, thats quite a story, im glad things are turning out
better for you


 

offline 3052 on 2004-07-27 21:37 [#01288238]
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Yeah it happens. I didn't appear once... wanted to give up
now it is completely killing me since I finally decided what
I want to do.

It is cold that you decided to do something. Just don't let
the past back-stab you. Know the system.


 

offline 3052 on 2004-07-27 21:45 [#01288242]
Points: 161 Status: Addict



Still, I am tapping in one place filling my head with
knowledge...it feels.

Getting in debts and becoming a slave. Freedom pays for
knowledge. What a weird combination !!

Will I ever bring its fruits to this world and make this
planet a better place, or does everyone just care about
food, money and fucking ? Am I selfish or too generous? Will
a piece of my immortality rot on someones shelf one day and
burn down to ashes when humans become distinct? Should I
stick around like wolfs did and let the cavemen degenerate
my DNA while creating a bunch of dogs I might call
grandchildren one day?

These are some of the questions that you should ask yourself
as well....

Best of luck mate !!!


 

offline cie jiks mawp from motion to descend (Australia) on 2004-07-27 22:03 [#01288247]
Points: 1171 Status: Lurker



in the words of WSB:
STOP:CHANGE:START


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-07-27 22:22 [#01288250]
Points: 5437 Status: Regular



school is cool, but only if you really wanna be there and
value the fuck out of it... i know i do, but i also know
that the degree that i am working on at present will not
likely get me all that far as far as getting a well paying
job goes...

as for a decent well paying job that you might consider
trying for a little while... until it drives you bonkers...
i highly recommend call centres... i currently work for one
that does surveys across America for (mostly) Fidelity, TD
Waterhouse, National City Bank, and Huntington National
Bank... it requires very little skill, and seems to pay
quite well in comparison to a lot of other jobs that i could
have right now (given my relative lack of work
experience)... 400$ for 40 hours in 2 weeks is not bad at
all by my standards... that said, it is not valuable work at
all... but hey, it sure isn't very physically taxing...


 

offline Motha Fucka from Selvaggina (Brazil) on 2004-07-27 23:03 [#01288255]
Points: 2038 Status: Regular



I will be a DJ,muahahahahaha!
I don´t give a fuck with studies anymore!


 

offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-07-27 23:29 [#01288257]
Points: 7824 Status: Lurker



things are great at the moment, I'm helping out saul with
his record label and I'm actually getting somewhere, (I got
distrobution sealed between him and system corrupt, a big
local label down here) I've been given the go ahead to
gatecrash a particular radioshow whenever I like just for
fun, I've had a long time xlt friend and member move over
here to sydney, and to top it off, I got an extremely kind
natured and friendly (and f**king gorgeous) anime geek and
well known domanatrix that wants to tie me up in shibari
next time I see her...

:D

things have been peachy for months now,... not a cloud in
the sky....


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-07-28 00:01 [#01288269]
Points: 9856 Status: Lurker



well its nice to hear the clouds have moved off you...

and onto me :P


 

offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-07-28 00:44 [#01288280]
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the longer you spend in the shit the better you'll feel once
you're out of it

I hope things get worse for you :D


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-07-28 06:40 [#01288446]
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:(


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-07-28 07:29 [#01288461]
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depression is such an asshole.

i'm sorry you're down gwely. i don't really know what to
say, or if anything would help. try to find something to do
that will give you a feeling of accomplishment, something to
bring positive thoughts into your mind. it may just take
time too.

do you have anyone you can talk to about really personal
stuff? that can be a life saver. and remember, your
eFriends are always here.


 

offline 3052 on 2004-07-28 08:02 [#01288479]
Points: 161 Status: Addict



"well its nice to hear the clouds have moved off you...
and onto me :P"

Hell you!
arrghhhhh.... that reminds me of one day when I was in a
zabooland.... I was leaping along.... leap, leap, all of a
sudden I met a strange creature. It said it was depressed
and that it started to do the life all over again. I said
good luck and then we started minding our own buisiness

the end !

-Wow zaboo that is a wounderful story!


 

offline Toejam from Perth (Australia) on 2004-07-28 08:06 [#01288486]
Points: 3077 Status: Regular



Oh, man. I'm so sorry to hear about your life being so
crappy right now dude. I'm still in school myself, 16 y/o in
my second-last year till I graduate at the end of next -
2005.

To be honest, there have been so many times when I have
thought "Fuck school, I would so rather be any place
in the real world apart from school right now."

But, I am slowly slogging on with it, taking one day at a
time, trying to continue to imagine what excitements the
real world holds in store for me and the future, hoping that
these thoughts alone will help me carry on through it all.

Yes, as other people have said, IT HELPS TO TALK TO
PEOPLE!
You might feel silly asking for their help,
experiences, advice or whatever, but believe me:
everyone at some stage or another in their life has
been there.

One thing you have to remember is: People are not as cool,
calm and collected as you think! Everytime you travel on a
bus, go for a walk to the shops, stand in a queue or
whatever, ALL OF THE OTHER PEOPLE ARE ALL STRESSING TOO,
whether it's about their love-life, their goals and plans
for the future, one of their family members terminally ill,
or WHATEVER the case may be. You're not alone!

Also, think about the "tree philosophy" - this always helps
me through life.

Think about a tree. It stands there in a field, by a river,
on a mountain or whatever, and it just continues to stand
there. It isn't TRYING to be useful to anyone or anything,
it just does what it wants to do, and becomes useful in the
process - you can use trees for firewood, paper etc. - ie
YOU HAVE LOTS OF POTENTIAL - everyone does! Even if you
don't realise it yet.

Sure, the tree may get hurt in the process, AND IT WILL! You
look at the rings in a tree trunk, and you can see all the
things it's been through - drought, bushfires, tagged,
bleeded, yet it STILL CONTINUES TO LIVE ON - IT DOESN'T GIVE
UP! IT JUST KEEPS ON GOING, doing what it does, and just
LIVING.



 

offline Toejam from Perth (Australia) on 2004-07-28 08:11 [#01288489]
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I mean, who knows what may be in store tomorrow! You might
go for a walk and find that you meet someone who knew your
mom's old teacher's boss's ex-husband who can get you a job!
(exaggerated example, obviously, but you know)

Life is full of little surprises like that! And yet they
only appear (or really stand out to you) when you're just
LIVING, the best way that you know how. Just try! Try your
best...

And also, read things. Read books about people that came
from the poorest of backgrounds that became millionaires,
people that had horrific diseases that were finally able to
walk again, read anything!

Even this might help, as an example of something I read when
I was down: website

So yeah man, give it a go!

That's my cents worth!

-Toejam


 


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