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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-07-27 17:58 [#01288085]
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life just couldnt get any worse, why oh why did i drop out of school, there would be plenty of time to self destruct myself with lazyness and drugs after graduation. ive become habitual and depressed to this slow burn life leading nowhere. allot of you are past this, and possibly have fair enough jobs to live on. i cant do this labor shit my whole life, im too intelligent to be lost in this mess. its absolutely depressing. im going to school starting september and im not fucking gonna slack off again. i wanna know how you all passed this (if you did) and what it took to just get a decent less demanding job on the body that pays alright. i would like to choose this path before its too late.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-07-27 18:08 [#01288090]
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"im going to school starting september and im not fucking gonna slack off again."
sounds like you're going somewhere. Definatly the right direction
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-07-27 18:11 [#01288091]
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yeah...
i still cant see my road clear enough though. it may sound whiny but i wanna know your stories on how you got where you are and what your job is.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-07-27 18:12 [#01288092]
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well, Im still in school...
is there a person with a job in the house?!
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-07-27 18:13 [#01288093]
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im so depressed, but there is a little bit of joy i can pinch out of today, joe schmo 2 is on at 7 :D
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corrupted-girl
on 2004-07-27 18:17 [#01288094]
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i understand far too well
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-07-27 18:17 [#01288095]
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How old are you?
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-07-27 18:22 [#01288099]
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between 17 and 19, you get 3 guesses and the first two dont count.
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J Swift
from United Kingdom on 2004-07-27 18:22 [#01288100]
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I'm in the same boat at the moment - Kind of depressed (not DARK depressed, just deflated and uninspired).
It's small town life that's getting me down - I've been away from my home town, out of the scene, for a little while, just getting my music shit together and having hayfever...
Now I'm at a point where I can go back to it - But with this distance I see how pointless and cut-off it all feels! So I'm finding myself not going back to my old life, and looking for something new.
But yeah, apart from that I did drop out of college twice, to smoke weed and take drugs, which I don't regret, because I'm a better person for it fo' sure! But I have a terrible track record with "regular" jobs, and unless I have some life-chaging experience, I don't see that ever changing.
So I realise I'm better suited to freelance work - Which I've done a fair bit of, writing, mastering, hopefully releasing my own music soon, just full of self-doubt and the stress of having to forge my own way, with no guarantees...
Also can't decide where I want to be in 5/10/15 years time anyway - I think I'd go crazy resigning myself to a regular job/lifestyle, unless I was with the right girl of course - But that's a whole other can of worms.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-07-27 18:26 [#01288104]
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i have no idea what i want to be. hell, when i used to get high the great ganga buddha blessed me with loads of creative thoughts and deep theories which cant amount to words. but when the trips starting becoming bad, my motivation drove off a cliff and my creativity is still hitchhiking (haha i love metaphors)
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2004-07-27 18:28 [#01288107]
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make sure you don't drop out again! i could be fucked with college, just down to laziness and lots of dope, but having to graft in a dead in job is not fun. you're surrounded by dolts, fustrated that you know you're better than them but can't prove it. i've dropped out twice, and selling pizza for a living isnt fun. hopefully i'll break out of this shit but yeah i sympathise, its depressing.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2004-07-27 18:29 [#01288108]
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"But yeah, apart from that I did drop out of college twice,
to smoke weed and take drugs"
sounds like a familliar story :)
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-07-27 18:31 [#01288111]
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all too familiar
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-27 18:34 [#01288115]
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come to the "ATTENTION: epohs" thread!
things are going nowhere there too, and quite moderately fast! but we're merry about it.
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J Swift
from United Kingdom on 2004-07-27 18:39 [#01288121]
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Still, you don't have to be settled in a career in your early 20's!
I'd probably freak out even more if I was to be honest.
The good thing with all that time to think is that you can sometimes get a much clearer perspective on things - People who get "pushed" through the system (like half of my old friends who did do uni straight after school) have ended up getting to 23 with a degree in something they've absolutely no interest in...
And, a BIG debt to clear!
I like the idea of starting my own business - I had a good clothes business on ebay earlier in the year - Only problem was having to deal with some pretty dodgy people from Asia - Massive profits, but I started to freak out in case the tax office ever took an interest...
But the UK's got an incredibly high sucess rate for new businesses.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-07-27 18:43 [#01288126]
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life sucks man..........lets make a suicide pact
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-07-27 18:44 [#01288128]
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it sucks...but apperantly time heals everything.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-07-27 18:50 [#01288141]
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does it heal saggy skin and brittle bones and a rectum that falls out of your ass everytime you try to shit in your depends?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-07-27 18:57 [#01288150]
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you wont notice saggy skin in 200 years from now.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-27 18:58 [#01288154]
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Going to college was the worst recommendation I've ever had. Hmm, let me pay 4 thousand dollars for an excruciating mind melt please (well owe in a loan anyway where interest has already made it 6 thousand). I got a typical monkey job. Who has more autonomy, more power, more freedom... the monkey or the manager? Who is happier? It's a parasitic niche.. you should try it. My only source of income is 7.45 an hour for only 24 hours a week, and I can survive off of it. I never have to drive on a freeway. I only buy gas once every couple months. My rents only 425 a month and it's actually not too shitty of an area. Well the fewer number of surrounding humans, the less corrupt and evil the environment will be which applies here.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-07-27 18:59 [#01288155]
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You're way too young for this.
Why did you drop out (of high school, I can only assume)?
What were your reasons? What year did you drop out in?
No one knows what they want to be when they are young.
Why put so much pressure on yourself?
Personally, I'm getting the idea that too much partying, drinking, smoking, has clouded and muffeled your momentum, forward.
You can't just 'turn around' in one day. I can only hope that you'll continue on in school, realize that this is hardly a quarter of your life that has passed...and will be the hardest. Pressure is a pain in the ass...and you have to overcome it. Find a new hobby, start exercising (if you don't already).
Dude, it's great your asking for help....many people feel too "emoitionally strong" or some bullshit like that to do it. Fuck that, you have way too many years left to dick around. It only takes a few good, hard years of work to ease into a decent life. Take advantage of your age, as things won't get easier in the future.
and as always, advice and help are at your request..
good day, m8
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-07-27 19:00 [#01288157]
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w M w,
if you feel that your college education was shit, well then maybe that's because you didn't make enough out of it. It sounds to me like you are quite hooked on a linear path after college....that or you gave up....
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-27 19:15 [#01288170]
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Change per unit time has been increasing exponentially. The school system is unnecessary for modern times, yet still enforced. It's a ancient relic that holds thinkers back if anything. I just discovered that Richard Dawkins and Danny Hillis, who could both think a patch on the ozone layer with pulsing neursphere warlock spells, both "avoided formal schooling and the pressures for social conformity that go along with it."
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-07-27 20:37 [#01288215]
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I had to move out of my home at the age of 16 because my home life suddenly became rather volatile due to my parents splitting up and both of them getting some fucked up partners,
I spent the first 2 years of my life on my own at a university accomodation (it's the only place I could find that takes people as young as myself) working at a supermarket 3 days a week, (not barely enough to cover rent, let alone eat, needless to say I was pretty fucking heavily malnourished during this time)
I had to ride my bike 10kilmoteres to work on some days, and ride 2kilometres and catch a train on others, which was quite a feat considering the lack of money I was getting
because I was living at the uni I had no access to the internet, which up until that point was a major part of my life,
it was hard
all of my friends also were'nt nearby anymore and I never got to see any of my friends
these were some of the lowest times of my life
then I got back up on my feet and got a pizza delivery job, but my car was so unreliable that it was a major stress keeping the job and keeping my new apartment,
then I got a job working with my dad and getting an awesome wage
and then i broke my leg
faced with the porbability of never walking again, my parents both refused to take me back into their house, a good friend of mine, an anime hermit who literally goes weeks without seeing people and values his privacy more than any person I know let me move in, without rent for 6 months,
I walked 1km a day on the crutches to try and rehabilitate myself, to this day I'm not 'supposed' to be walking because I could snap the plates in my leg, but the doctor himself suggested that I ignore this device if I didn't want my muscles to destroy themself forever due to not using them
when I got my foot working again I got back into work with my dad and got my own place, I saved up rent months in advance, and tyhen lost the job and survived off the rent I had already paid and went literally 5 days at a time without food
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-07-27 20:50 [#01288222]
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.....and in the past few months I've had two of the nicest people I know move in, I've gotten on centrelink benefits, and I effectively don't even have to work to live with the cashflow I'm receiving,
just from my flatmates paying their share of the rent I don't really need an income for anything besides food and leisure, (the place is in my name, so I can charge them what i want, they are happy with the amount I charge though)
life is now awesome,.. my social life is extremely active (it gets that way living with multiple people) and tomorrow, I'm going for a job interview for my dream job of working in an office building 38 hours a week,
you have to work towards getting yourself set up for a good life, it's the small steps you take every day that make hte difference, not the one or two big steps
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things have to get better, if only in comparison to how shit they may seem now, just remeber that it could always be a lot worse, count your blessings not your damnings.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-07-27 20:57 [#01288223]
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w M w,
I'm sorry I still don't understand why
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-07-27 20:59 [#01288225]
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Refund,
Fucking, awesome...man.
Stories like this make me appreciate all the good luck I've had, and def. show some great inspiration. Cheers!
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-07-27 21:05 [#01288227]
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Thanks, again..for sharing :)
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-27 21:15 [#01288229]
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slow burn
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-07-27 21:29 [#01288235]
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Refund, thats quite a story, im glad things are turning out better for you
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3052
on 2004-07-27 21:37 [#01288238]
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Yeah it happens. I didn't appear once... wanted to give up now it is completely killing me since I finally decided what I want to do.
It is cold that you decided to do something. Just don't let the past back-stab you. Know the system.
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3052
on 2004-07-27 21:45 [#01288242]
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Still, I am tapping in one place filling my head with knowledge...it feels.
Getting in debts and becoming a slave. Freedom pays for knowledge. What a weird combination !!
Will I ever bring its fruits to this world and make this planet a better place, or does everyone just care about food, money and fucking ? Am I selfish or too generous? Will a piece of my immortality rot on someones shelf one day and burn down to ashes when humans become distinct? Should I stick around like wolfs did and let the cavemen degenerate my DNA while creating a bunch of dogs I might call grandchildren one day?
These are some of the questions that you should ask yourself as well....
Best of luck mate !!!
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cie jiks mawp
from motion to descend (Australia) on 2004-07-27 22:03 [#01288247]
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in the words of WSB: STOP:CHANGE:START
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-07-27 22:22 [#01288250]
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school is cool, but only if you really wanna be there and value the fuck out of it... i know i do, but i also know that the degree that i am working on at present will not likely get me all that far as far as getting a well paying job goes...
as for a decent well paying job that you might consider trying for a little while... until it drives you bonkers... i highly recommend call centres... i currently work for one that does surveys across America for (mostly) Fidelity, TD Waterhouse, National City Bank, and Huntington National Bank... it requires very little skill, and seems to pay quite well in comparison to a lot of other jobs that i could have right now (given my relative lack of work experience)... 400$ for 40 hours in 2 weeks is not bad at all by my standards... that said, it is not valuable work at all... but hey, it sure isn't very physically taxing...
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Motha Fucka
from Selvaggina (Brazil) on 2004-07-27 23:03 [#01288255]
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I will be a DJ,muahahahahaha! I don´t give a fuck with studies anymore!
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-07-27 23:29 [#01288257]
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things are great at the moment, I'm helping out saul with his record label and I'm actually getting somewhere, (I got distrobution sealed between him and system corrupt, a big local label down here) I've been given the go ahead to gatecrash a particular radioshow whenever I like just for fun, I've had a long time xlt friend and member move over here to sydney, and to top it off, I got an extremely kind natured and friendly (and f**king gorgeous) anime geek and well known domanatrix that wants to tie me up in shibari next time I see her...
:D
things have been peachy for months now,... not a cloud in the sky....
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-07-28 00:01 [#01288269]
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well its nice to hear the clouds have moved off you...
and onto me :P
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-07-28 00:44 [#01288280]
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the longer you spend in the shit the better you'll feel once you're out of it
I hope things get worse for you :D
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-07-28 06:40 [#01288446]
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:(
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-07-28 07:29 [#01288461]
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depression is such an asshole.
i'm sorry you're down gwely. i don't really know what to say, or if anything would help. try to find something to do that will give you a feeling of accomplishment, something to bring positive thoughts into your mind. it may just take time too.
do you have anyone you can talk to about really personal stuff? that can be a life saver. and remember, your eFriends are always here.
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3052
on 2004-07-28 08:02 [#01288479]
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"well its nice to hear the clouds have moved off you... and onto me :P"
Hell you! arrghhhhh.... that reminds me of one day when I was in a zabooland.... I was leaping along.... leap, leap, all of a sudden I met a strange creature. It said it was depressed and that it started to do the life all over again. I said good luck and then we started minding our own buisiness
the end !
-Wow zaboo that is a wounderful story!
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Toejam
from Perth (Australia) on 2004-07-28 08:06 [#01288486]
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Oh, man. I'm so sorry to hear about your life being so crappy right now dude. I'm still in school myself, 16 y/o in my second-last year till I graduate at the end of next - 2005.
To be honest, there have been so many times when I have thought "Fuck school, I would so rather be any place in the real world apart from school right now."
But, I am slowly slogging on with it, taking one day at a time, trying to continue to imagine what excitements the real world holds in store for me and the future, hoping that these thoughts alone will help me carry on through it all.
Yes, as other people have said, IT HELPS TO TALK TO PEOPLE! You might feel silly asking for their help, experiences, advice or whatever, but believe me: everyone at some stage or another in their life has been there.
One thing you have to remember is: People are not as cool, calm and collected as you think! Everytime you travel on a bus, go for a walk to the shops, stand in a queue or whatever, ALL OF THE OTHER PEOPLE ARE ALL STRESSING TOO, whether it's about their love-life, their goals and plans for the future, one of their family members terminally ill, or WHATEVER the case may be. You're not alone!
Also, think about the "tree philosophy" - this always helps me through life.
Think about a tree. It stands there in a field, by a river, on a mountain or whatever, and it just continues to stand there. It isn't TRYING to be useful to anyone or anything, it just does what it wants to do, and becomes useful in the process - you can use trees for firewood, paper etc. - ie YOU HAVE LOTS OF POTENTIAL - everyone does! Even if you don't realise it yet.
Sure, the tree may get hurt in the process, AND IT WILL! You look at the rings in a tree trunk, and you can see all the things it's been through - drought, bushfires, tagged, bleeded, yet it STILL CONTINUES TO LIVE ON - IT DOESN'T GIVE UP! IT JUST KEEPS ON GOING, doing what it does, and just LIVING.
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Toejam
from Perth (Australia) on 2004-07-28 08:11 [#01288489]
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I mean, who knows what may be in store tomorrow! You might go for a walk and find that you meet someone who knew your mom's old teacher's boss's ex-husband who can get you a job! (exaggerated example, obviously, but you know)
Life is full of little surprises like that! And yet they only appear (or really stand out to you) when you're just LIVING, the best way that you know how. Just try! Try your best...
And also, read things. Read books about people that came from the poorest of backgrounds that became millionaires, people that had horrific diseases that were finally able to walk again, read anything!
Even this might help, as an example of something I read when I was down: website
So yeah man, give it a go!
That's my cents worth!
-Toejam
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