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you care right? |
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I didn't mean electronic music.. I mean ANY music! I've never met a girl that really likes music! They mostly don't seem to care... |
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i didn't exactly start listening to electronic music on my own. there wasn't much like this on the radio here but i started listening to it when an friend of my brother played some stuff for me. the female brain is indeed different from the male brain so there might not be as many female idm listeners but they can still like music in general as much as men can. |
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you're in for some surprises then my friend! |
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i think there's a difference between I-REALLY-FUCKING-LIKE-MUSIC-MORE-THAN-ANYTHING-liking and just liking it. Some like it more than others. i like music really much and most of my female friends like it less, but they still like it. |
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hmm.. I hope I meet a girl that proves me wrong... I love that, and therefore say mny strange things. I HAVE met a few that love musicians, though... |
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"I'd say that all of my girl friends over the years, were enthusiastic, and loved music just as much as any of my guy friends did. And I think that all of the women at my school would beg to differ as well. Maybe they don't like music that is good enough for your guys tastes, but don't you dare say they aren't feeling the music they listen to. " |
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"but don't you dare say they aren't feeling the music they listen to." ..I don't know any girls that listen to music on their own initiative... |
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then you know only an isolated demographic. |
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(this is only based on my own experiences, though... all the girls I know.. if I ask "do you like [insert artist]," if the answer isn't "no," it's 99% "yeah, they're/he's okay," and if I ask "so.. what do you listen to," it's 99% "oh.. just anything...") |
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..or maybe it's the other way around... but that's impossible to know... |
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are you telling me that the majority of all music sales in the world, is to males? |
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That might not be the case, actually. Cause a lot of young girls like the mainstream boy- and girlbands. And that's highquality music of course (cause it sells a lot of records). |
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exactly my point earlier. who are you guys to judge what is worth music? Maybe its shit to you, and maybe its shit on an academic analysis level... but it doesnt mean people dont actually like, and feel the music they are hearing. smores taste good. simple: chocolate, cracker, marshmellow. its no fine cuisine from a NYC resturaunt... but lots of people, when they are smores, are truely enjoying the taste. get me? |
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*when they eat |
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yeah.. and then there are groups.. like goth girls that buy lots of dark rock cds for "image" (believe me, I know a few that actually admit to doing that). also.. it is strange that out of all the people that replied to this thread, only about three or four have different experiences.... This is not a misogonystic (spelling?) conception, because it just means they may be doing something else with their time... (I have to add that I also only know one girl that really cares about movies.. all the others.. they'll watch a movie, but when it is done.. "yeah, it was ok..." never "great!!!" or "AWESOME!!") |
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any music... |
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I get you... I mean I've got a broad taste in music so I can find things I like in different types of music. But do you think as many people would listen to mainstream pop if it wasn't played by the radio so much? |
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"This is not a misogonystic (spelling?) conception, because it just means they may be doing something else with their time..." but you didnt say "most girls I know are too busy doing other things, to listen to music"* you said "I dont think girls feel music"* *not direct quotes, because I am lazy. |
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theres plllleeenty of guys who listen to mainstream music. so the arguement is flawed. people in general are lazy. they want things handed to them. but just because its handed to you, doesnt mean that it automatically isnt possible to enjoy. DM: "any music..." yes? |
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*and Im not saying that there aren't people who listen to music for image... there are. both guys and girls. but to say that women can't feel music, is just a really sexist thing to say. music conveys emotion. emotion is human. women are human. women have emotions. women can feel music. |
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yeah, 'cause.. to be able to "feel" music, you'd have to actually listen to it... the girls I know have different hobbies, and if you have a hobby, don't you spend boring moments thinking about it? I know that if I am at a friends house, and he loves football, and we're watching a game, I spend 90% of the time thinking about how my next song is going to be... sometimes I hear samples from the game, and wish I'd had some recording device ready, but... yeah.. you catch my drift? When I'm around women, and I listen to music, it's like they're tuned into something else... no matter what type of music it is... |
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and I dont mean "can" in a 1 out of 100 kind of way. |
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so wouldnt a better arguement be that "people who dont listen to music, cannot feel music" theres guys that dont listen to music, because they do other things. |
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yeah.. those image peolpe piss me off! I don't know why I care, but it does anyway... re: any music: I meant.. you were talking about them not liking the music I like being the same as not liking music, but I'm talking about all sorts of music.. I have friends that listen to different things from what I listen to, but they too get the same answers when asking the questions I mentioned earlier... |
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"When I'm around women, and I listen to music, it's like they're tuned into something else... no matter what type of music it is..." do you listen to every possible type of genre there is in the world? lots of people have specific tastes. maybe they just dont like yours. theres lots of music I hear, that I dont like, so I dont even respond to it. |
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I was refering to all types of music as well. I made comments specifically about certain types of music, but I was also commenting on music in general... reread my posts. |
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yeah, it would be a more correct statement, but I would also say that the larger percentage of the people discussed are women... all the guys I know have other things to do, but still take the time to listen to and discuss music... all the girls I know don't... a discussion about music with a girl mostly doesn't extend to more than two sentences... the two sentences from before... only in norwegian... |
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øøørgh.. this discussion is too fast for me this late at night.. use the followup-function so that I know which post you are referring to... it seems we post in zigzag... |
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disregard that. |
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good night. I'll be back when/if I get to work tomorrow. |
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I dont know what to tell you. try talking to different women. not every guy you come across likes football. not every girl you come across hates music. you just cant say what is possible for someone to like or understand based on sex. |
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"theres plllleeenty of guys who listen to mainstream music. so the arguement is flawed." Zeus, this is what I wrote: "But do you think as many people would listen to mainstream pop if it wasn't played by the radio so much?" the word 'people' does not imply people of a certain sex. Also, I didn't get this: "but just because its handed to you, doesnt mean that it automatically isnt possible to enjoy." |
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sorry. I read it wrong. so... it wouldnt be mainstream pop, if it wasnt on the radio... now would it? just because its handed to you remark... just because its on the radio, and because its mainstream, doesnt mean that people cannot enjoy the music. that the music doesnt have feelings. |
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Portia Surreal likes electronic music.... |
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they are busy with their makeup. |
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i'm a woman |
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sometimes |
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just because its on the radio, and because its mainstream, doesnt mean that people cannot enjoy the music. that the music doesnt have feelings. ah, yeah that's true. I mean 'music' is really emotional thing... I don't dislike mainstream cause it is mainstream, not at all... Don't get me wrong here... It's late and I shall soon go to bed. |
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haha! that's very true! |
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he's not saying that all girls don't feel music. just that there are much fewer girls than boys who feel it the way he describes. the thing with mainstream is that it's more accessable and often regarded as being "cool". a girl who is 15 years old (no, not all girls) thinks about what is cool and what isn't so she buys that mainstream music...and she might even like it. when i'm in the car with my friends i rarely play music that i really love or things that i'm really into because it's most often something that most of them don't like... so i play something that i like and something that might suit their style more. not necessarily something i'm thrilled about but something they might feel as well. |
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she sure knows how to spin those slabs of wax. |
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WOMEN ARE COLD HEARTLESS WHORES they are actually alien robots with a synthetic layer of alluring flesh. TEAR AWAY THE FLESH and you will see the robotic innards. kill them all |
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"a girl who is 15 years old (no, not all girls) thinks about what is cool and what isn't so she buys that mainstream music...and she might even like it." a boy who is 25 years old (no, not all boys) thinks about what is cool and what isn't so he buys that underground / electronic / experimental / elitist music...and he might even like it. |
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Women like slow beats while men like fast and more complicated beats.... there was some study that was done... I only read the abstract since I could not download the journal...... Be aware that most people listen music for the image. |
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Electronic music implies pushing of the button. There is no sperm involved. word electronic implies men with balls cut off. I can't wait for the moment when computers will start making their own music from skratch (without samples or anything). Pop music will become science of seduction. Then, and ony then women will like electronic music. |
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I know some girls who are really into rockish stuff, they really get into it and realy listen to it, and a lot of the girls I know are big dnb heads. ....but they all got "gotten into it" by my male friends and their boyfriends and stuff (I think?) but regardless most of us guys got into it from other people too. But yeah I know a lot of girls who treat music as a fashion accessory. "I'm a punk girl" or "I love UK garage" and you have to pronounce it "garridge" or you're not cool, or trance girls... I dunno. |
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I think we need more input from our female friends. Help clear up the misconceptions about alot of stuff. |
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nope Your absolutley right well in my case anyway I can never be botherd to actully put any reseach in the music I like, I just wait till someone tells me. And one of the reasons I hardly ever talk about music here is cause I don;t know enough about it to comment I just listen and enjoy =o) Another reason is that I'm not very good at putting my opinions across in text |
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I think women do "feel" music (what a shit phrase), but all the female friends i know dont analyse it the way me and a couple of mates do. The closest they get to something like that is "the beat's really good". They never say, well that's a clever use of 'xyz technique', whether its performance, production or compositional. My mum and sister simply like music that they can sing along too. However, having said that my old music teacher was into music big time - when we listened to some stockhausen ("Stimmung") she listened to it loads and loads, and really got into the way Stockhausen was working. So this is definately not a biological difference, more of a social difference - all down to bloody socialisation *rolls eyes* |
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