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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2004-07-26 12:53 [#01286819]
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does anyone know where i can get the aphex piano notes to the druqks tracks?
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acid_polic3
from london (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-26 12:58 [#01286831]
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notes? sheet music->?
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2004-07-26 12:59 [#01286833]
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yes
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2004-07-26 13:00 [#01286837]
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they aren't difficult but quite beautiful. i could write them down myself but it'd take forever and i'd make mistakes
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-07-26 13:02 [#01286839]
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hmm.. I have them, but they're in my head.
I can tell you the notes, as the piano is right in front of me.
do you NEED sheet-music?
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2004-07-26 13:04 [#01286843]
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I'd like to play them, that's all, i'm a piano beginner only, so i can't really write down everything i hear.
any human readable form will do
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2004-07-26 13:07 [#01286848]
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i could type them, i have a nice latex based typesetting thingy
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-07-26 13:12 [#01286853]
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ok.. first part first. you'll have to figure out how far apart they are by listening to the song while playing... (tip: most of the left-hand notes are 16s, while the right hand-notes are mostly 8s)
left hand (> is closest note of that type up, < is down. a - means that it is the same note..)
#g > f> #g > c < c > #g > c > #d < #c > #g > #c > #d << #a > #g > #c < c
right hand:
c < f < #g - #g < f f > #d < #c < c < #g
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-07-26 13:18 [#01286859]
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second part (theme)
left: < #g > #g < f < #d < #d > #d > f < #d < #g > #g < f < #d << #c > #c > #d < #c
right:
< c - c > #d < c - c - c > #d > #f < #d
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-07-26 13:19 [#01286860]
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I'll take a break.. se if you get it.. if not I'll stop, and maybe someone who has the sheet-music at hand can help you...
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2004-07-26 13:23 [#01286866]
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thanks!!.. it will take some time to write it down..
what track is it?
btw, what do you think of a piano track compilation of the board? no hiding behind technics, pure music, to sort out the talentless knob twiddlers?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-07-26 13:27 [#01286878]
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oh, yeah.. that's Avril 14.. but it's not all of it...
about the pure piano-music thing.. I don't think that being unable to manipluate a piano, and being able to manipulate a computer qualifies as not having talent.. often the computer is much harder to manipulate, and if the music is good it doesn't really matter which instrument it is played on (it should fit, though, but that goes with the music being good...)
btw: I did a search of the board and discovered that Morton has the sheet music for both kesson daslef and Avril 14 on his page.
LAZY_TITLE
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2004-07-26 13:28 [#01286881]
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that i did not mean. i actually thought about putting the notes there with the mouse and playing it with some midi gear
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2004-07-26 13:30 [#01286884]
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cheffe1979, i have avril 14th and kesson dalef. would email them to you but your email's not public - email me at ventolin __at__ gmail __dot__ com and i'll send them to you
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2004-07-26 13:32 [#01286887]
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thanks, btw for the link, i could have done that myself :)
well, i think some music making folks here are unable to make music (some definitly are very good at it). it's like, egon schiele could have drawn a painting with only dirt between his fingers, he would not need 16.7 million colors.
doing simple things brings out the master, isn't it?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-07-26 13:33 [#01286890]
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ahah! changing the instrumentation? I've tried that.. I found that a sinewave with a forward loop which is cut a few samples before the sine comes back to, like the place it would have to come back to for you to be able to create a forever-looping sinewave, if you catch my drift.. then some envelopes, and you've got a great-sounding version of avril... I'll try to upload it if I find it...
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2004-07-26 13:33 [#01286893]
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thank_at_you! mail sent!
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2004-07-26 13:36 [#01286895]
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somehow i think we are not getting each other right over that issue.
i talk about piano only music, (composed on a computer 'cause not everybody will have a piano at home) with melody, with structure and stuff. no singing, no effects
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-07-26 13:53 [#01286926]
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drunken master, you have re-deemed yerself in my eyes
keep it up ,m8
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2004-07-26 14:18 [#01286947]
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awaiting email now.. as for the piano mix idea i think it'd be a great idea.. i think people in idm are too focused on rhythm all the time and melody is totally sacrificed as a result..
this was one of the reasons Wisp's humpelndenBEATS release mesmerized me so much, because it combined amazing, very well written melodies with great rhythms and well thought out structures to the songs to top it all off.
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-07-26 18:19 [#01287143]
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Aphex Twin - Track 8 | --------------------------- | Album: Selected Ambient Works Vol. II | Drummer: Machine (or, if you want, Richard Himself ;)) | | Tabbed by Wojciech Wrona nothinger@wp.pl |
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Thatýs the beat that goes through the whole song:
H |x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-| S |--------o----------o| B |----o--o--oo-o--o---|
I think thatýs it (maybe bass kicks are not too good, but who cares? ;).
Enjoy! :)))))))
oh wow what a necessary tab
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-07-26 18:24 [#01287152]
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BUT SERIOUSLY
i used to have sheet music for two tracks off of drukqs. i believe it was avril 14th and kesson daslef. i don't have them anymore and upon searching the interwilly i couldn't find them.
they were .bmp files.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-07-26 20:39 [#01287201]
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I thought they (the experts) proved that the piano tracks off drukqs could not be played with only two hands..
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Q4Z2X
on 2004-07-26 21:05 [#01287208]
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that was only some of it. it doesn't mean that you can't play a rough approximation of it, leaving out some parts when required. also, i doubt that anyone could actually play any of those songs with their hands and maintain a perfectly steady, computerised rhythm.
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Motha Fucka
from Selvaggina (Brazil) on 2004-07-26 22:51 [#01287247]
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Petiatil Cx Htdui and Kesson Daslef are my favorites!
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-07-26 22:52 [#01287248]
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I wonder if he did them in a piano roll...
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-07-26 22:53 [#01287250]
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or a jelly roll
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2004-07-27 02:19 [#01287286]
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oh thanks.. i got it from mortons page
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2004-07-27 02:26 [#01287292]
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that's not true, actually they are pretty easy. in fact, that makes them even better. i'd find it pretty childish to compose a track which can't be played just for the sake of it. that wouldn't be hard at all actually you just have to include a sequence of notes that a hand can't reach on the piano, say 11 notes at the same time.
it's MUCH harder to create a melody and that's also the reason why there is a lack of it in many compositions.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-07-27 04:13 [#01287326]
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no, it wasn't impossible to play the tracks.. it is just that because of the piano Richard is using, certain harmonies and overtones appear, and they sound like notes that aren't being played are being played... the notes on mortons page are an example.. in those places where there are the same notes with an octave between them, only the higher notes are being played... a harmony is created that sounds like the tones in the middle are being played as well.. just listen carefully to the track.. and even if all the notes are being played, it's not impossible.. you just need to work on the strength in your little finger...
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-07-27 04:15 [#01287327]
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how so? how did I.. eh.. diminish (is that the word?) myself earlier?
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2004-07-27 07:24 [#01287440]
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if im not mistaken, richard uses a fucked up midi-triggered piano for the songs on drukqs, meaning he preprogrammed them, then just hit the play button.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-07-27 20:42 [#01288217]
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It might be hard for you or lots of other people to right a melody, but for some it's like cutting through butter.
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cie jiks mawp
from motion to descend (Australia) on 2004-07-27 22:01 [#01288245]
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the peeanos were also prepared. ie bits of metal, rocks and glass wedged in among the strings to make those gumalung sounding clangy reverberations with each note.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-28 01:17 [#01288283]
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i hope i'll never shake hands with someone who can play the last 5 bars from avril 14th on a piano :)
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-07-28 02:31 [#01288292]
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then you hope you hope you won't shake hands with me?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-07-28 02:36 [#01288293]
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..and about the songs being midi and "prepared..." where did you get this info? It sounds like a regular upright piano to me...
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-28 03:06 [#01288304]
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wonderful, if you wanna play the right hand part of the 34th bar of avril 14th, you'd have to hit the C2 and the E4 at the same time, which means your fingers would have to be 10 inches long.
i'd like to see you play this 'trois-mains' piece
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-07-28 03:10 [#01288307]
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you'd use the left hand for the two lower ones, but those notes are wrong.. as I said earlier, it is only the higher note that's being played, the one in the middle is resonance that comes from the tuning of Richs piano... I'll try to get a digital camera and take a picture of how you'd play the part as noted there...
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-28 03:16 [#01288310]
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i don't think Rich has a real piano
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-07-28 03:17 [#01288312]
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eh.. why wouldn't he?
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-28 03:24 [#01288314]
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Shut your fetus face.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-28 03:25 [#01288315]
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??
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-07-28 03:28 [#01288319]
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..eh?
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-28 03:39 [#01288328]
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ok it IS a real piano, but he can't play it, the computer does it for him:
...Many other techno artists would have probably prepared a piano and sampled some of the sounds, but not Richard James, he knew this simply wouldn't work and that any results of this process would be crass. He bought a grand piano that can be played by computer. It's called a 'Diskclavier' and it's made by Yamaha. It's exactly like a straightforward grand piano but the keys can be controlled by a computer via MIDI – the musical instrument digital interface. Richard James cannot read conventional musical notation and he cannot play a keyboard so, in order to make the piano and prepared piano pieces that appear on 'Drukqs' he prepared his Diskclavier according to the principles established by John Cage and programmed the playing using a computer. The results are there for all to hear. It's a real piano on Drukqs, not a sampler or a synthesizer. Richard James has brought the sound of the forties into the 21st century.
(from the WARP site)
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-07-28 03:46 [#01288336]
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ok...
then he must've sampled the pedal-sounds as well, 'cause they're on there...
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-28 03:55 [#01288342]
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yes, true, that's probably also possible with that Disklavier thing then :)
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-07-28 03:59 [#01288346]
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yeah.. you'd just have to put a mic on the pedals...
I could use one of those.. I've composed a song that I'd like to be played twice as fast as I am able to play it, but I don't want to use sampled piano-sounds 'cause that ruins it...
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AphexTwin11
from OOOOOO (United States) on 2004-07-28 09:57 [#01288622]
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i know all the piano peices by heart, i listened and wrote the down onto an Excell document, i kind of made piano roll and sequencer sheet music with Excel, pretty good actaully
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