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offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2004-07-26 12:53 [#01286819]
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does anyone know where i can get the aphex piano notes to
the druqks tracks?


 

offline acid_polic3 from london (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-26 12:58 [#01286831]
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notes? sheet music->?


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2004-07-26 12:59 [#01286833]
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yes


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2004-07-26 13:00 [#01286837]
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they aren't difficult but quite beautiful. i could write
them down myself but it'd take forever and i'd make mistakes


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-07-26 13:02 [#01286839]
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hmm.. I have them, but they're in my head.

I can tell you the notes, as the piano is right in front of
me.

do you NEED sheet-music?


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2004-07-26 13:04 [#01286843]
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I'd like to play them, that's all, i'm a piano beginner
only, so i can't really write down everything i hear.

any human readable form will do


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2004-07-26 13:07 [#01286848]
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i could type them, i have a nice latex based typesetting
thingy


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-07-26 13:12 [#01286853]
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ok.. first part first. you'll have to figure out how far
apart they are by listening to the song while playing...
(tip: most of the left-hand notes are 16s, while the right
hand-notes are mostly 8s)

left hand (> is closest note of that type up, < is down. a -
means that it is the same note..)
#g > f> #g > c
< c > #g > c > #d
< #c > #g > #c > #d
<< #a > #g > #c < c

right hand:

c < f < #g - #g < f
f > #d < #c < c < #g


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-07-26 13:18 [#01286859]
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second part (theme)

left:
< #g > #g < f < #d
< #d > #d > f < #d
< #g > #g < f < #d
<< #c > #c > #d < #c

right:

< c - c > #d < c
- c - c > #d > #f < #d



 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-07-26 13:19 [#01286860]
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I'll take a break.. se if you get it.. if not I'll stop, and
maybe someone who has the sheet-music at hand can help
you...


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2004-07-26 13:23 [#01286866]
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thanks!!.. it will take some time to write it down..

what track is it?

btw, what do you think of a piano track compilation of the
board? no hiding behind technics, pure music, to sort out
the talentless knob twiddlers?



 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-07-26 13:27 [#01286878]
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oh, yeah.. that's Avril 14.. but it's not all of it...

about the pure piano-music thing.. I don't think that being
unable to manipluate a piano, and being able to manipulate a
computer qualifies as not having talent.. often the computer
is much harder to manipulate, and if the music is good it
doesn't really matter which instrument it is played on (it
should fit, though, but that goes with the music being
good...)

btw: I did a search of the board and discovered that Morton
has the sheet music for both kesson daslef and Avril 14 on
his page.

LAZY_TITLE


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2004-07-26 13:28 [#01286881]
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that i did not mean. i actually thought about putting the
notes there with the mouse and playing it with some midi
gear


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2004-07-26 13:30 [#01286884]
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cheffe1979, i have avril 14th and kesson dalef. would email
them to you but your email's not public - email me at
ventolin __at__ gmail __dot__ com and i'll send them to you


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2004-07-26 13:32 [#01286887]
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thanks, btw for the link, i could have done that myself :)

well, i think some music making folks here are unable to
make music (some definitly are very good at it). it's like,
egon schiele could have drawn a painting with only dirt
between his fingers, he would not need 16.7 million colors.

doing simple things brings out the master, isn't it?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-07-26 13:33 [#01286890]
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ahah! changing the instrumentation? I've tried that.. I
found that a sinewave with a forward loop which is cut a few
samples before the sine comes back to, like the place it
would have to come back to for you to be able to create a
forever-looping sinewave, if you catch my drift.. then some
envelopes, and you've got a great-sounding version of
avril... I'll try to upload it if I find it...


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2004-07-26 13:33 [#01286893]
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thank_at_you!
mail sent!


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2004-07-26 13:36 [#01286895]
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somehow i think we are not getting each other right over
that issue.

i talk about piano only music, (composed on a computer
'cause not everybody will have a piano at home) with melody,
with structure and stuff. no singing, no effects


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-07-26 13:53 [#01286926]
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drunken master, you have re-deemed yerself in my eyes

keep it up ,m8


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2004-07-26 14:18 [#01286947]
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awaiting email now.. as for the piano mix idea i think it'd
be a great idea.. i think people in idm are too focused on
rhythm all the time and melody is totally sacrificed as a
result..

this was one of the reasons Wisp's humpelndenBEATS release
mesmerized me so much, because it combined amazing, very
well written melodies with great rhythms and well thought
out structures to the songs to top it all off.



 

offline thecurbcreeper from United States on 2004-07-26 18:19 [#01287143]
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Aphex Twin - Track 8 |
--------------------------- |
Album: Selected Ambient Works Vol. II |
Drummer: Machine (or, if you want, Richard Himself ;)) |
|
Tabbed by Wojciech Wrona nothinger@wp.pl |

_______________________________________________________|

Thatýs the beat that goes through the whole song:

H |x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-|
S |--------o----------o|
B |----o--o--oo-o--o---|

I think thatýs it (maybe bass kicks are not too good, but
who cares? ;).
Enjoy! :)))))))

oh wow what a necessary tab


 

offline thecurbcreeper from United States on 2004-07-26 18:24 [#01287152]
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BUT SERIOUSLY

i used to have sheet music for two tracks off of drukqs. i
believe it was avril 14th and kesson daslef. i don't have
them anymore and upon searching the interwilly i couldn't
find them.

they were .bmp files.


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2004-07-26 20:39 [#01287201]
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I thought they (the experts) proved that the piano tracks
off drukqs could not be played with only two hands..


 

offline Q4Z2X on 2004-07-26 21:05 [#01287208]
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that was only some of it. it doesn't mean that you can't
play a rough approximation of it, leaving out some parts
when required. also, i doubt that anyone could actually
play any of those songs with their hands and maintain a
perfectly steady, computerised rhythm.


 

offline Motha Fucka from Selvaggina (Brazil) on 2004-07-26 22:51 [#01287247]
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Petiatil Cx Htdui and Kesson Daslef are my favorites!


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2004-07-26 22:52 [#01287248]
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I wonder if he did them in a piano roll...


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2004-07-26 22:53 [#01287250]
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or a jelly roll


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2004-07-27 02:19 [#01287286]
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oh thanks.. i got it from mortons page


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2004-07-27 02:26 [#01287292]
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that's not true, actually they are pretty easy. in fact,
that makes them even better. i'd find it pretty childish to
compose a track which can't be played just for the sake of
it. that wouldn't be hard at all actually you just have to
include a sequence of notes that a hand can't reach on the
piano, say 11 notes at the same time.

it's MUCH harder to create a melody and that's also the
reason why there is a lack of it in many compositions.



 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-07-27 04:13 [#01287326]
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no, it wasn't impossible to play the tracks.. it is just
that because of the piano Richard is using, certain
harmonies and overtones appear, and they sound like notes
that aren't being played are being played... the notes on
mortons page are an example.. in those places where there
are the same notes with an octave between them, only the
higher notes are being played... a harmony is created that
sounds like the tones in the middle are being played as
well.. just listen carefully to the track.. and even
if all the notes are being played, it's not impossible.. you
just need to work on the strength in your little finger...


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-07-27 04:15 [#01287327]
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how so? how did I.. eh.. diminish (is that the word?) myself
earlier?


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2004-07-27 07:24 [#01287440]
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if im not mistaken, richard uses a fucked up midi-triggered
piano for the songs on drukqs, meaning he preprogrammed
them, then just hit the play button.


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2004-07-27 20:42 [#01288217]
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It might be hard for you or lots of other people to right a
melody, but for some it's like cutting through butter.


 

offline cie jiks mawp from motion to descend (Australia) on 2004-07-27 22:01 [#01288245]
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the peeanos were also prepared. ie bits of metal, rocks and
glass wedged in among the strings to make those gumalung
sounding clangy reverberations with each note.


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-28 01:17 [#01288283]
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i hope i'll never shake hands with someone who can play the
last 5 bars from avril 14th on a piano :)


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-07-28 02:31 [#01288292]
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then you hope you hope you won't shake hands with me?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-07-28 02:36 [#01288293]
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..and about the songs being midi and "prepared..." where did
you get this info? It sounds like a regular upright piano to
me...


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-28 03:06 [#01288304]
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wonderful, if you wanna play the right hand part of the 34th
bar of avril 14th, you'd have to hit the C2 and the E4
at the same time, which means your fingers would have to be
10 inches long.
i'd like to see you play this 'trois-mains' piece


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-07-28 03:10 [#01288307]
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you'd use the left hand for the two lower ones, but those
notes are wrong.. as I said earlier, it is only the higher
note that's being played, the one in the middle is resonance
that comes from the tuning of Richs piano... I'll try to get
a digital camera and take a picture of how you'd play the
part as noted there...


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-28 03:16 [#01288310]
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i don't think Rich has a real piano


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-07-28 03:17 [#01288312]
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eh.. why wouldn't he?


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-28 03:24 [#01288314]
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Shut your fetus face.


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-28 03:25 [#01288315]
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??


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-07-28 03:28 [#01288319]
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..eh?


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-28 03:39 [#01288328]
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ok it IS a real piano, but he can't play it, the computer
does it for him:

...Many other techno artists would have probably prepared
a piano and sampled some of the sounds, but not Richard
James, he knew this simply wouldn't work and that any
results of this process would be crass. He bought a grand
piano that can be played by computer. It's called a
'Diskclavier' and it's made by Yamaha. It's exactly like a
straightforward grand piano but the keys can be controlled
by a computer via MIDI – the musical instrument digital
interface. Richard James cannot read conventional musical
notation and he cannot play a keyboard so, in order to make
the piano and prepared piano pieces that appear on 'Drukqs'
he prepared his Diskclavier according to the principles
established by John Cage and programmed the playing using a
computer. The results are there for all to hear. It's a real
piano on Drukqs, not a sampler or a synthesizer. Richard
James has brought the sound of the forties into the 21st
century.


(from the WARP site)


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-07-28 03:46 [#01288336]
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ok...

then he must've sampled the pedal-sounds as well, 'cause
they're on there...


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-28 03:55 [#01288342]
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yes, true,
that's probably also possible with that Disklavier thing
then :)


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-07-28 03:59 [#01288346]
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yeah.. you'd just have to put a mic on the pedals...

I could use one of those.. I've composed a song that I'd
like to be played twice as fast as I am able to play it, but
I don't want to use sampled piano-sounds 'cause that ruins
it...


 

offline AphexTwin11 from OOOOOO (United States) on 2004-07-28 09:57 [#01288622]
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i know all the piano peices by heart, i listened and wrote
the down onto an Excell document, i kind of made piano roll
and sequencer sheet music with Excel, pretty good actaully


 


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