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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-18 11:13 [#01279420]
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have you seen the new ipod? it looks really nice, not sure when its out though. i'm trying to find more details about it but it looks nicer than the most recent design.
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-18 11:14 [#01279421]
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Do you mean mini or what?
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-18 11:16 [#01279427]
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well i got a 40gb so fuck y'all.
;)
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2004-07-18 11:17 [#01279430]
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overrated and most of all: overpriced
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-18 11:18 [#01279433]
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-18 11:22 [#01279437]
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i wouldnt call it overrated. the fact i can walk around with my entire cd + mp3 collection in my pocket is fucking superb. i've also found a way of connecting it to my car stereo and make it run off the battery in my car.
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2004-07-18 11:22 [#01279438]
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OMG, you mean they've built in a blue backlight, which would justify the probably about €100 higher price??? :P
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-18 11:23 [#01279440]
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It already has a blue backlight.
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-18 11:26 [#01279443]
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How does the sound quality compare with, say, sticking a pair of headphones into a stereo system?
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-18 11:27 [#01279445]
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well its smaller, thinner and probably has more capacity, 60GB might just about be enough,
as for overrated, i don't think so, i don't know what i'd do without my ipod, how else can i carry my entire music collection around with me? Its simplicity in design and functionality is its main advantage over its rivals. Thank god they haven't stuck movie playing, radio and camera features into it.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-18 11:28 [#01279447]
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sound qualiity depends on what earphones you use, i'm using shure earphones and its the best sound quality i've ever heard. I'm not quite sure how much the system effects sound quality on headphones.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-18 11:31 [#01279448]
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some info i found:
Highlights: Click Wheel
12-hour playtime
Multiple on-the-go Playlists
Delete songs from OTG Playlists
Audiobook tempo adjustment
No more 15 gig model
$100 Cheaper
Speculations: Uses the same processor as the iPod Mini.
There will be a 60gig iPod to fill the top price slot later.
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2004-07-18 11:36 [#01279451]
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Perhaps I'm biased. Still not convinced of the durability and price/quality ratio of portable hard drives. I find the iPod overpriced when I see that Creative offers a 20 GB Zen for about $100 less than a 20 GB iPod.
I settle for a small 256 MB USB stick/MP3 player that fits easily into my pants' pocket to which I copy tracks thatr foir my mood.
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2004-07-18 11:40 [#01279455]
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holy fuck4g3, that should have read:
"...fit my mood"
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Atli
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-07-18 12:22 [#01279491]
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rio karma has bette sound quality and the battery time is 15 hours comapred to ipod's 8. the rio has some great features that the ipod hasn't. i've compared these players much to one another and the karma came out much better. the only thing is that the rio karma is said to have a high risk of disc failure or something. doin't know if it is much higher than ipod's ratio though.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-18 12:44 [#01279520]
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plus its ugly (compared to the ipod) and it doesn't have a scroll wheel, i don't know what i would do without it, its so easy to scroll through hundreds of artists. The new ipod will have 12 hours battery which is fine and will be even smaller and thinner than the current model.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-18 12:46 [#01279526]
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i'm going to have to stop looking at pictures of it otherwise i'll end up buying despite already owning a 20gb 2nd gen ipod.
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aristotle
from United States on 2004-07-18 12:59 [#01279546]
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what about the batteries?
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JLefrere
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-18 13:52 [#01279607]
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It's the ease of use that makes the ipod. It's just perfect. Had a 5gb one when they came out, now on 15gb. I've used a creativelabs mp3 player, it was awful, you pretty much needed two hands to operate it! Not overrated. I just think it gets on people's nerves because they see it so much, and a lot of people may think there are no other mp3 players i imagine.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-18 13:59 [#01279612]
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yes, it is overrated - suddenly everyone needs this, which is really rubbish.
I too think it's much too expensive.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-18 15:35 [#01279728]
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new ipod in the dark
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-18 15:49 [#01279755]
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News flash!! iPod is not the only portable mp3 player!
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-18 15:50 [#01279757]
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its the only one worth having :)
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-18 15:54 [#01279765]
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Why?
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-18 15:59 [#01279782]
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scroll wheel, ability to have all music with me, its the best looking mp3 player, its minimalistic design of its display etc etc...
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-18 16:06 [#01279796]
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so basically you're paying $300 for a scroll wheel, because all the other 40GB mp3 players have these things you mention.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-18 16:14 [#01279819]
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if your spending a lot of money on a hard drive based mp3 player you want the best, the ipod is, imo (especialy aesthtically). Also i use itunes so i just plug it in and it updates in seconds. Not sure if other mp3 players do that.
anyway its only my opinion, i love my ipod, its just personal preference. As for the cost, i think the new ones are going to be a bit cheaper.
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child810
from boston (United States) on 2004-07-18 16:15 [#01279822]
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There's also iTunes, the music store and the seemless integration of the iPod with Address Book, iCal, and text files.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-18 16:16 [#01279825]
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itunes is gay, if i want to buy music, i'll buy the real thing
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-18 16:18 [#01279832]
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itunes is a music player, you import music from cd.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-18 16:19 [#01279833]
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yeah yeah, the music store thing. itunes is a shitty music player by the way. unstable
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-07-18 16:21 [#01279837]
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on windows it is
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-18 16:22 [#01279838]
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yeah, crashes all the time... not.
i haven't found an easier music player to handle thousands of albums, but if you know of one let me know.
i don't use the music store, files are at 128 kbps, which isn't high enought quality, plus i'd rather have the cd anyway.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-07-18 16:43 [#01279858]
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iPod = best mp3 player out there. I'm still using a first gen one and its better than everything else i've seen.
Itunes = shit.
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JLefrere
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-18 17:02 [#01279882]
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iTunes = the best. There's nothing wrong with it. I'm not keen on winamp, crap interface, not intuitive at all.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-18 17:04 [#01279886]
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maybe it works fine on mac.
but it doesn't on pc. it was so shitty in fact, just scrolling through the list of songs made it chop up.
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2004-07-18 17:11 [#01279898]
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iTunes is working 100% on my pc
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JLefrere
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-18 17:14 [#01279901]
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Hmm, well I use it on both, no problems. But I guess it doesn't work well on every PC. Seems like you either love it or hate it, iPod/iTunes
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-18 17:19 [#01279910]
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you can't even skin it, or change visualizations, and I seem to recall that the music library didn't work unless you let it copy _everything over into its own itunes folders.
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JLefrere
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-18 17:34 [#01279923]
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Who needs another skin when the interface is perfect already? And you can select to copy over or not. I found that really useful, consolidate library takes all your mp3s from everywhere and copies them into folders by artist and album. I had my mp3s all over the place before that. You can't change visualisations though :) i think it's a bit cheeky apple making their logo come up now and again on the visualisation.
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pylonbitch
from Samoa on 2004-07-18 18:45 [#01279952]
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mp3 sucks ass.
north, south, east and west, everyone knows, vinyl is best.
128kbps. hyper compressed, low quality music.
enjoy!
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-18 19:07 [#01279991]
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oh, maybe you can skin it.
GO AMERICA USA ITUNE #1!!
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Dozier
from United States on 2004-07-18 19:16 [#01280018]
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i've never used itunes so i can't comment on it, but what's non-intuitive about winamp? the only thing it's missing is built in automatic tag/filename editing.
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-18 19:18 [#01280021]
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iTunes is fucking cock.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-18 19:19 [#01280024]
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you can, you select a hole bunch in the library and go "edit selected items", then you can enter artist, album, etc. and update tags.
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Torley Wong
on 2004-07-18 19:35 [#01280044]
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mini iPod costs a lot for what you get compared to the big ones, but you know, the marketing turned out surprisingly well... I didn't know so many people would be picking them up!
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-19 04:53 [#01280206]
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"You can't change visualisations though :)"
you can, there are loads on the net to download
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dan7250
from Osaka (Japan) on 2004-07-19 04:57 [#01280211]
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I use itunes over windows media player.
media player is awful. media player 10 is just a blatant ripoff of itunes. microsoft are entirley uninnovative.
People no longer say 'I want an mp3 player'... they say 'I want an iPod'. ipod is a cultural icon.
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dan7250
from Osaka (Japan) on 2004-07-19 04:58 [#01280212]
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plus as clearly shown in the tv ads buying an iPod will make me pseudo-bohemian cool.
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JLefrere
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-19 05:01 [#01280214]
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iTunes' interface makes a whole lot more sense, try it out. Although I haven't used winamp in years.
And that skin is disgusting!! I wouldn't change mine. Didn't know you could, pantalaimon (those are great books btw)
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