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i know this has been talked about a shit-ton, but, i figured i'd make a thead especially for all of the bad press IE's been getting as of late. networks.org/?cert:713878 [homeland security]* *xlt really didn't like that url |
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In a nutshell, what do people dislike about IE? It's always been fast and flawless for me. I use Opera most of the time, mostly because I really love the multiple window tab thingy, but invariably, it doesn't work as well as IE. And of course there's some mutated websites. |
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I can't be bothered to click those links. Is this about the fact that the security flaw in Mozilla is also in IE? |
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IE is a shitter concerning security.. it's riddled with holes.. |
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the security issues are disconcerting. but, what really bothers me about IE is it's horrid support for web standards. it really makes designing web pages a pain in the ass. and it's non-support for transparent PNGs pisses me off badly because they are so cool. |
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One Word "CoolWebSearch" ....this shit has gotten way out of hand, I dont like to be redirected to some fucking porno site, or encounter endless pop ups. Im using Opera right now |
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What's wrong with porn? |
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yeah that has really been a goddamn pain inn the ass as of late |
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people still use IE?? |
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I'd use Opera more if it only supported GMail. |
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Currently using Avant Browser, which basically uses the core of IE but adds tabbed browsing, popup killing, more security settings etc. |
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i have no problems. i use win98, ie, and hotmail. i have no gripe with any of them. i think people are just trying to do too much with what they have. |
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..? they're trying to use the full potential of the medium - the idiots! |
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well that's just silly :) |
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CoolWebSearch... *pukes* Here's another vomit-inducer... CASINO PALAZZO , do a Google for that one if you're curious :P This comes in the midst of me trying to use Firefox, and it ain't easy 'cuz IE still has like 94% of the market and is the only browser that can view some pages "properly". Ugh. These spyware makers should have their computer privileges taken away :( |
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microsoft released a buttload of updates yesterday. i suppose everyone should pay them a visit. |
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I've been using Firefox (and firebird previuosly) for ages now. much faster at rendering pages and at least you know if it works in that browser then 99% of the time it will work in any other. |
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there's really very little that i like about IE more than it's moz counterparts. sometimes it can be nice that it starts up faster, but that's because 90% of IE is loaded when you boot... and, i'd almost always prefer my machine boot quicker. and when websites don't support anything other than IE i usually just blame the developer for having his head up his ass and the business loses my patronage. :-) |
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Best available browser: and is with a lot of cool features! |
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Holy crap 1 percent! The ships going down! |
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hey, it's a start. :'( |
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Shope, you'll be happy to hear that I finally ditched that piece of CRAPCRAPCRAP Microsoft Word and am now using OpenOffice. |
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what is tabbed browsing? i've been using IE all my life without problems, and I never get popups... |
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that brings a smile to my stone heart. |
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What a stupid subject. IE is/was too tightly integrated with Windows but you can't blame Microsoft for people maliciously using what would otherwise be worthwhile additions. Many so called 'security flaws' are just malicious use of facilities. Also a lot more security falws are found in IE because it is so violently targeted...I am sure if everybody switched to attacking Firefox a lot more security problems there would become apparent. IE is an excellent peice of software. teion - The logic in your post is totally stupid. kworter - Microsoft Word is brilliant and easily the best word processor on the market. I understand all the stuff about not conforming to all web standards put forward by W3C, but at the end of the day 94% of people use IE, so therefore IE is the standard. The remainder who don't are mostly geeks who aren't worth worrying about, because if they really need to they can easily access to IE. |
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i politely disagree. yes, i'm sure as mozilla gains popularity, and more attention is focused in it's direction there will be additional security issues that pop up. but, i also think IE has several serious security flaws because of it's integration with a flawed OS, that mozilla will never have. for years microsoft has focused on putting ease of use before security. that is a compromise that is, and has been biting them in the ass for quite a while, and now with xpsp2 they seem to finally be addressing it... however, even in a best case scenario IE is a 3 or 4 year old piece of technology. that's a fuckload of a long time when you're talking about the internet. IE was definately a good browser back when it defeated netscape in the browser wars... but, ever since then microsoft hasn't put much effort into evolving it's web brower, thus it hasn't changed much at all since '99. and IE purposefully avoids adhereing to web standards... which i think sucks sweaty scrotum. |
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but, yeah, ms office definately beats open office if you're doing a lot of work with it. however, i don't use it enough at home to justify the infinately higher price, and OO more than meets my need. |
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But the ease of use is what allowed the web and computer use in general to develop the way it did. You also can't blame Microsoft for wanting to retain its dominance in the market. They are a major company not a charity. |
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yep. they have certain business strategies that have worked stupendously well for them so far. i just don't like that they're not using their dominate possition to push the web farther.. instead they are holding it back and stiffeling it by not even fully adopting 6 year old standards (CSS). very frustrating. i'd like to see a little competition in the market. i think it'd be good for everyone involved. |
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I honestly think it is because Microsoft beleive the web, as it stands now, is outdated and not much room for development which is why they are focusing all their efforts of Web Services and the .NET framework. |
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i think it's because they already have 95% of the market.. there's not really any motivation to spend money innovating. i think they're putting a schload of effort into longhorn, which will be massively web service/.NET based. i'm fairly excited to see what they'll do with it. |
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.net seems really cool. i downloaded the VS 2005 express packages, but i haven't gotten a chance to mess with them much yet. |
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I've been using .NET for a couple of years now. I really like it, so powerful yet clean. |
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web based or are you working on applications? i'd like to leave asp classic and start working in asp.net/c#... but our faggy company is still using NT4 servers!!! "wtf are they thinking" i hear you asking.. "nothing." i reply. |
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C# doing Windows Forms front end for network services. I've done some Web Services stuff of my own, but none is live on the net. |
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