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wal-mart: good or evil?
 

offline zguru from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2004-07-12 19:37 [#01274395]
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i work next to a super wal-mart... does it help america, or
is it evil?


 

offline child810 from boston (United States) on 2004-07-12 19:41 [#01274397]
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PURE EVIL!!!!!!!!!!!!! fo sure


 

offline zguru from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2004-07-12 19:42 [#01274401]
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why? cause i want to hear opinions.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2004-07-12 19:43 [#01274402]
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helping america, is that good or evil?


 

offline darkpromenade from Australia on 2004-07-12 19:44 [#01274403]
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RFID=Wal-Mart=eeeeevil


 

offline zguru from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2004-07-12 19:46 [#01274408]
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ignorant question... are there wal-marts outside of states?


 

offline rottenwool on 2004-07-12 19:48 [#01274410]
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ignorant answer... don't know


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2004-07-12 19:49 [#01274412]
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wal mart have recently aquired 'ASDA' the biggest chain of
super crap in the UK. Dunno about the rest of th EU?


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-12 19:49 [#01274413]
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basically it's "evil" toward its workers (low wages) but
"good" toward customers (low prices) (though there may be
indirect negative effects which will eventually effect the
customers economically). But I don't know details and
information on this tends to be biased by either unions or
walmart supporters. It's the biggest company in the world.
It uses it's power.. for example it forced maria carey or
someone to exclude some lyric about "buying guns at walmart"
before they'd sell it in their stores. I don't know the real
deal in 3rd world countries with them. Maybe people there
are happy to have ANY work, or maybe walmart's evil and
greedy and pays "slave" wages.


 

offline zguru from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2004-07-12 19:50 [#01274414]
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the reason i asked if it helps america is cause that's the
image it tries to convey... the made in america stuff


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-12 19:51 [#01274416]
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The main concern with people about walmart is the "corporate
america" vs "working america" and the disparity of wealth
between the two it seems.


 

offline zguru from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2004-07-12 19:53 [#01274419]
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also, the extinguishing of small business... if you have a
wal-mart in a town, it chases out everything else


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-12 19:53 [#01274420]
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from what I read a LOT of their stuff is made in china etc.
because they can pay less for it.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-12 19:59 [#01274425]
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wal-mart actively censor artists - Eels couldn't sell the
original form of their album "daisies of the galaxy" there,
because it contains a song where the word "shit" is used and
one song that is named "it's a motherfucker", with the word
"motherfucker" being used repeatedly. they wanted E to bleep
out those words, etc.

he thought it was very funny and I think he used some silly
noise to bleep the "shit" and actually recorded a completely
new version of "it's a motherfucker" called "it's a
monstertrucker", actually singing the word "monstertrucker"
too. it makes no sense within the song, but there you go.

so on one side this makes wal-mart very evil, on the other
hand it creates a classic semi-collector's item for
Eels-fans. but I guess the last has more to do with the
creativity of E really.


 

offline zguru from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2004-07-12 20:01 [#01274427]
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wal mart sells over 25% of the total music in the u.s.


 

offline brokephones from Londontario on 2004-07-12 20:20 [#01274448]
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Wal-Mart abuses its monopoly status. Absolute power corrupts
absolutely, and they often use their control of American
consumers to justify some of the worst foreign labour
conditions in developing countries where many of their line
of products are made.


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-12 20:26 [#01274455]
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evil as fuck


 

offline Doomed Puppy from on and off and on and off and on 2004-07-12 20:30 [#01274459]
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This whole situation is a part of a larger socio-economical
"natural" tendency whose climax begun with the age of
information. Pseudo-globalisation that only leads to
centralisation of wealth and especially power. I guess it is
something that we have to put up with because our lifestyle
is supported by it and we support it with our carefree way
of living. Ofcourse you should keep in mind that due to that
situation workers will be absolutely controlled and will
eventually lose most of their rights. The whole thing will
get out of hand during the next 50 years or so creating a
third world in the midst of the western urban environments.
Simple economical principles really.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-07-12 20:33 [#01274462]
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I only ever go to Walmart to buttfuck the manager in the
mouth.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-12 20:35 [#01274465]
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that makes my head spin.

as I guess it does his.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-07-12 20:35 [#01274466]
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Walmart = Evil fucks.

The only allow certain music to be sold (especially CD's
with explicit lyrics). They pay employees shit. And they
sell lots of low quality shit. Thats why they have a HUGE
area set aside for people who need to return shit that broke
or whatever.

theres more but i've got other stuff to do.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-12 20:39 [#01274470]
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Someone predicted that it would eventually "collapse under
its own weight" like mcdonalds.

Another person predicted that a sort of cycle would occur
where non-union would become more and more dominant until,
when it got bad enough, the workers would organize into a
union again.

Allegedly, they make their workers watch anti union videos
which is effectively attempting to brainwash. Speaking of
which, I am tired of having a brain.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-12 20:41 [#01274472]
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"but i've got other stuff to do."

Yes I've got an avatar to change and other things of higher
precedence.


 

offline Doomed Puppy from on and off and on and off and on 2004-07-12 20:44 [#01274475]
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"collapse under
its own weight"

No multinational corporations will just keep on merging
unless something drastic happens...ie dominance of islam.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-07-12 21:03 [#01274494]
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He likes the taste.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-12 21:11 [#01274498]
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This entire universe is absolutely amazing.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-12 21:14 [#01274501]
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I seriously doubt that, Kev.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-07-12 23:32 [#01274565]
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Tesco are the biggest change of super crap...man you are
starting to lose touch with reality.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-07-13 00:48 [#01274579]
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Evil, but they've got some of the best prices around here.
Here being Canada. So yes, they've got their fingers in more
than one national pie.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-07-13 00:52 [#01274582]
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Canadians hate Americans because Canadians are stupid and
are an ungrateful people. Bill O'Reilly told me this.


 

offline VLetr from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-13 02:38 [#01274692]
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£1 in every £8 spent in UK shops is spent at tesco.

at least we don't have a walmart monopoly situation yet. but
it will get worse unless Labour have the balls to
significantly raise the minimum wage in line with other EU
countries.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-07-13 02:39 [#01274697]
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I think if minimum wage is increased it will favour the
already powerful chains and completely destroy smaller
concerns.


 

offline VLetr from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-13 02:47 [#01274708]
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naturally such a rise in minimum wage must be accompanied by
government subsidies for the smaller companies. (these
already exist, but i forget what they are called.)

the money for expanding this could be provided by increasing
corporate tax, which in britain is among the lowest in the
world.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-07-13 02:49 [#01274712]
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we need to keep corporate tax down because there are no
british industries as such and we need to keep foreign
companies in the UK.


 


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