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i traveled through oklahoma this last weekend. through indian country. beautiful, but sad. i'm part cherokee. it seems like everyone has forgotten what happened to these people. they are almost all gone. anyone here have american indian heritage? anyone from outside the states have opinions about this? |
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Yeah I agree it is very sad. Who could say what the world would be like if the country had not been stolen by evil white people? |
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i have to live with it every, day |
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First off: "Native American" "Aboriginal American" Not Indian Reservations are like slums. They are people who are seen as a sub class, it digusts me. A lot of aboriginal women went missing in Vancouver (60 is a conservative estimate) and this went on for ten years before the guy who was killng them was descovered. I am sure that if they were middle class white women the police would have invested more money into it and would have caught him sooner. |
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actually, i visited a couple of reservations a few years back and they all identified alot more with the term "indians" than "native american." they thought it was lame to basically try and change their names now that they are well settled and all that. im sure this isnt the view of every indian out there, but just the view of almost every one i have met. |
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same thing happened in mexico, where native women were being murdered and nobody stopped it... mexico was also wiped out... most mexicans are a mix of native (incan, mayan, pueblo...) and spanish. |
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the term 'indian' was just columbus' ignorance when he though he was in india. |
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AMERICAN INDIAN. AFRICAN AMERICAN. WHITE DEVIL. |
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We've got a reservation just a short jog away from here. In fact, I could run there within 5 minutes if I really really wanted to run there. But I don't want to right now. It's actually really nice. I don't know how it is down in 'Merica, but 'round these here parts, they seem to WANT to be segregated... and they're fucking spoiled, too. They get big nice big checks from our government just for being the victims of our murdering great great great grandfathers and their gang of scurvy-suffering ruffians. Cool for them. |
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I have some mates who are really interested in reading their history and way of life. I was in Arizona once visiting the Grand Canyon and on the way we stopped off at a reservation tourist stop. It was one of those extremely tacky places seemingly selling the worst kind of crap to guilty american tourists. Still, the sellers were porbably making massive profit so theres the un-romantic reality of it. We also drove by a reservation where a local told me that inside this piece of land (i forget the tribe) there was another reservation belonging to another tribe. Apparently the lines were drawn under beurocratatic circumstances and its ended up that the second tribe is surrounded by their traditional enemies and so never leave their land.. they have gobetweens to trade and supply them but they refuse to cross their enemies terrotory so are never seen... whacky. at the end of the day, in the grand scheme of things, the strongest survive and when it comes to keeping traditions alive you have to decide for yourselves how much to integrate into overwhelming external forces and how much to stay stuck in the past. Traditional fire-making/hunting skils are useless in the days of supermarkets etc but song and dance is an importanty cultural asset that could easily be forgotten. |
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it's dog it dog :( |
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010101, is that the Robert Pickton case? That makes me sick. |
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yeah, but they are selling that tradition at a huge mark up? Did you look around at all the developement out there? Not much. Probably gunna be around for a while. Until walmart buys out their tradition. Don't feel too sorry for them. Due to that gene anomaly they get to save thousands on liqour. Is that rich or you in your avatar, keys? |
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a part blackfoot "indian" and by part, I mean some incredibly small percentage. |
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<- its me...........So sioux me |
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What is sad is seeing native americans who have lost their language selling cd's to tourists with "indian" chants on it. |
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Another victim of manifest destiny. |
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I´m sad about this. When I was a child and we played cowboys - I was everry time a "Native American"! The terrorism is a invention of the white americans. |
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yes you still haven't washed his semen out of your arse yet. |
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In a way, every american is reminded if this. Think of all the states with indian names: Michigan, Idaho, Nabraska, Dakota, Utah, Navada, Tennesee, Ohio, Oklahoma, Wyoming, Minnasoda, Wisconsin... |
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Countless cultures and civilisations were swept away in history. Not even half of them by "white people". Hell even tribes of the same people were at war with each other. The problem is not in the division of people in races... the problem lies within each human... war and dominance over others occurs in everyday life. Decay is an absolute constant in the cultural evolution equation anyway. Stop being victims of needless guilt. |
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Yes, we know. All races are guilty of hatred and oppresion in some form. Indian tribes did make pacts with Europeans to wipe out their enemies. African tribes did sell captured enemies to slave traders. The mongols fought against the chinese. The japanese drove out the white natives on the island. No one should be judged by the actions of their ancestors UNLESS they carry the same hateful attitude toward people. |
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Cue the dramatic Philip Glass music while images of self-destruction and humanity's cruelty to itself and to animals and the Planet Earth wash across the monitors... |
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I love it when white people claim to have indian heritage - probably cos one of their relatives raped a squaw, eh. anyways, I think american indians should leave and join up with the abboes in australia, and drive the white devils out! there are fewer of em down there! GO ABBO, GO! |
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OOHH, DIS ''Indian'' culture is very alive and well around here, they're always dancing around in their fancy getups, yelling stuff. Nobody minds. Myself, I'm 23% native something. |
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the tragedy is that a culture founded on preservation and appreciation of the land they lived on was driven out/massacred/subjugated by a culture founded on imperialism/materialism/waste. and now the united states is one of the wealthiest and most powerful nations in the world. to compare this situation to any other situation that has ever happened anywhere else ever is laughable. |
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They are probably in dire situations because they live in isolation and rely on the government. It's been hundreds of years. Maybe it's time to move on. It goes to show that reliance can turn into a crutch and bitter resentment that , in the end, only hurts yourself. |
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Not that they don't have a right to be a little pissed.I fully concur with that. |
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If we had the means to travel to the moon and populate the place and there were moon people. It would happen all over again. |
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Or if the moon people came here......... |
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I sort of wish culture was never able to evolve in complexity and technology beyond theirs. My concept of them is warped by movies though most likely. |
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I know an Indian guy with wireless internet. It's crazy! |
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Heh heh. Well they have easy assimilated access to it. I'm pretty sure I want to move to canada. |
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look at the amish. The get along fine. |
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