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---LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- State Education Secretary Richard Riordan jokingly told a child her name, Isis, meant "stupid dirty girl," prompting the head of the California NAACP on Thursday to call for his resignation.--- (end of article:) ---Democratic state Assemblyman Mervyn Dymally, who had scheduled a protest by civil rights organizations, canceled the demonstration after an apparent mix-up over the girl's racial background. Dymally was quoted in the San Jose Mercury News Thursday saying the child was "a little African-American girl. Would he (Riordan) have done that to a white girl?" The girl is white, with blonde hair. Dymally did not return telephone calls. His office issued a statement Wednesday calling Riordan's remarks to the girl "outrageous and irresponsible," then issued another statement Thursday saying, "To err is human; to forgive is divine." "Race is not a factor in this issue," Dymally said in Thursday's statement, adding that Riordan had apologized a second time. "It is time for us to move on." --- |
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Did the politican first arrange a protest, because of what he thought was the girl's race and then cancel the protest because of the girl's race? My point is, is he really trying to fight racism here, or show how much a person's race actually matters? w-t-f |
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wtf? |
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hmm, if this is true, it seems to me that the head of the NAACP in Cali is as much a racist as the people she is supposed to be fighting against. |
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I don't understand how telling someone named Isis that her name meant "stupid dirty girl" is meant to be a joke. I wonder what would happen if the person had cracked that joke to somone named "Jesus" (exchanging "girl" for "boy" of course), or "Mary". |
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I agree, plus given his comment came after he was told it related to Egypt, I think it is even more suspect. I just think it is stupid the way the NAACP seem so happy to accept an apology as the comment wasn't targeted to a black person and that this education fools job doesn't seem to be on the line. |
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Yes, but the AA in NAACP stands for AFrican American doesn't it? So, once it was realised she wasn't an AFrican American, it wasn't their concern (I guess). |
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nah NAACP stands for the national association for the advancement of coloured people. but yes I guess because she wasn't a person of colour it wasn't their concern. |
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Attempts to memorise the Acronym :D |
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Why make a race issue out of it at all? As unpleasent as calling someone a "stupid dirty girl" is(and saying that is what their name means, even when it is incorrect, is not as bad as actually saying someone is that...), it isn't anything to do with racism. The ones who should be charged with racism here are those who assumed a girl named "Isis" must be black. |
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for many people, "racism" means the systematic, institutional repression of individuals of a minority race. in the united states, this almost exclusively applies to people of african origin, though it is (less frequently) applied to other races. it's worth pointing out that poverty in the united states affects people of every so-called race that lives here. i think there is an interesting argument that an organization (like the NAACP) that is devoted to helping only one race of people (defined by the color of the skin) may actually serve to perpetuate the racial divisions between people, and encourage the labeling of individuals with a genetically meaningless racial identity. it is now a scientific fact, after all, that individuals who share physical characteristics (skin color, shape and form of facial features) may be more genetically dissimilar from one another than with an individual who does not share those physical characteristics. in fact, "racism" would perhaps be better considered the irrational insistence on viewing an individual as a representative of the collective group of people with whom they share certain physical characteristics. in other words, an individual with a european background with light skin, fair hair and lightly pigmented iris may be seen as "that white person." to the people who view this person as "that white person," whatever that person does or says becomes "what white people do and say." think about all of the racial stereotypes you've heard. all are derived, i think, from experiences with individuals; then, the quality of those experiences is transferred to a collective racial group. the best way to combat racism, i think, is to promote the view of people as individuals who represent only themselves in their unique personalities and experiences. if we can accomplish this, then we can confine our conflicts to religious disagreements, class warfare, and political clashes. ; ) |
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But then, maybe the person was obliquely expressing what he really thought of the girl? Plus, I don't think it is racist to assume that a girl named Isis is coloured -- these white people who adopt ethnic traits and names to further their sense of self-liberalism are the racist ones, in the main, I've found. (Generalisation). |
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I hate the white trash people that live in my apartment complex, they are dirty, and just plain dumb, telling their little kids "I don't want you playin with them spiks" when they are playing with children of the mexican families, which are far and away more respectable than the white trash. |
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Yep and the term African-American doesn't help things... they're Americans. Face Pixellator: You are correct, it's not really "rascist enough" to warrant labelling the person a racist (last week I assumed someone was of Indian descent based on their name and, when I actually met them, it turned out they were white). It does, however, have slightly more to do with race than saying someone is stupid or dirty (unless of course, it is suffixed by a racial slur, "You dirty spic", "You stupid nigger", etc.) |
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Who decides they are Americans? Where is their say? There is a good quote from Malcolm X about this: Sitting at the table doesn’t make you a diner. You must be eating some of what’s on that plate. Being here in America doesn’t make you an American. Being born here in America doesn’t make you an American. |
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My point is that, regardless of whether or not it is what "they" want to do, calling yourself "raceOfDescent-hostCountryName" as opposed to "hostCountryName" promotes segragation. Do you disagree? |
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I think personal identity comes before national identity. BTW, I think white people should be segregated from everyone else, but that's just me and not the issue we're discussing. |
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