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aka 'white nigga'. a caucasian who appropriates the language, dress and mannerisms of black culture. or do you think such labels are ignorant and racist, perpetrated by the enemies of racial integration, by those who consider black culture foreign and unwelcome? |
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Nope. |
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i respect them, thats all. |
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It's no less offensive than 'Unkle Tom' |
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dunno...you tell me. |
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no, i...i don't think i am. |
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what is appropriate? I know what is appropriate as in don't throw up on the plate when having dinner with your friends (unless you're eating puke), but not in this context. please help. |
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If you think that's an accurate reflection of black culture you're sadly mistaken. |
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Like ? |
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ah. appropriate has two meanings. the adjective (as you so delightfully describe) and the verb, meaning 'to take possession of without permission'. i could also have said 'co-opt' or 'adopt', but i went for the fancier word :) |
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That's just funny! |
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thrrowing up on the plate when having dinnerr with yourr frriends is Ok, you just don't want to do that when yourr grranny is rround. |
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no |
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key secret- appropriate=anamma (typ). |
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Yeah not the best example of inappropriate. Inappropriate is more like telling dirty jokes at a kids party, to the kids, when you're supposed to be making balloon animals. |
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exactly. tim westwood is the son of a vicar, from a distinctly middle-class home counties background, who attempts to convey the impression that he is from compton/south central/harlem. amusing westwood anecdote: was walking past leeds university union building with some friends when we spotted westwood's special customised van, which features a life size westwood on the side posing majestically in front of a cheesy lightning and storm clouds background, clearly trying to portray himself as some kind of godlike zeus figure. it was frankly hilarious and we all pissed ourselves laughing when a black dude walking by unexpectedly stopped in the street next to us and proclaimed "hey that's westwood! he's my niggaaaaa!" bizarre. |
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Or DJing gabber at a wedding reception (which I hope to do if I ever get married) |
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DONT SWEAP THE TECHNIQUE |
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Tim Westwood isn't a wigga at all. He has been involved in the hiphop scene longer than most motherfuckers, and he acts in a hiphop way not a "black" way. He has every right to, no matter how stupid he sounds. Urban culture (especially in the UK) tends to be pretty unbiased racially...we shouldn't allow US prejudice terms to infiltrate UK culture. The more these types of labels are used, seriously or jokingly, the longer racial ignorance will continue for. |
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Is he a real life version of this guy? |
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When I fist heard him on radio one I thought he was black ! Surely that'll be the mark of a wigga? |
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Why, because you thought he sounded like your ill conceived idea of what a black person sounds like? If anything he is a mock American more than a wigga. |
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VLetr / zetre: ok! pOgO > that's the mark of prejudice. ;) |
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What about his voice made you think that? |
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yes i agree. but, hip hop or not, putting a massive picture of yourself posing in front of lightning on a van is pretty goddamn portentous. some distinction must surely be made between those who have spent a considerably amount of time under the influence of a culture (perhaps westwood does belong in this group), and recognise the significance and nuance of its language and customs, and those who jump on the bandwagon of cool without any respect for the culture or its social and political history? |
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I'd just never heard a white person talk like that, only black people |
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You are still doing him down with the under the influence statement. Westwood has brought hiphop to a wider audience in this country, and he obviously loves the culture 100%. He was there from near the beginning and there are very few people who get involved that early that are still active. Other than his Radio 1 work he has been responsible for a lot of the promotion and funding of getting hiphop acts from the states over to the UK to perform. Even smaller acts that wouldn't otherwise have the opportunity. He has played a valuable part in the culture. |
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I agree with that, he obviously loves it, but again wouldent indicate that he has the marks of a wigga? |
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because he loves hiphop? So anyone who is white who likes hiphop displays the signs of a wigga? |
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well i suppose i should have added "and actively contributed and supported the culture", although that doesn't even apply to all black people involved in hip hop culture. and the "under the influence" bit, well i would apply that equally to the way in which anyone comes to be part of any culture; we're (by definition) not born with an understanding of a culture, but learn it by our minds being influenced by it. |
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The problem is people tend think white people who are part of the hip-hop culture are trying to be black. It's sometimes the case. Often it isn't. |
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ecna, what do you think of westwood's playing up the fact that he was shot at? all that chest-inflating bravado, as if being shot at somehow seals his hip hop credentials. |
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black dudes who act white? Does the opposite apply? any famous names? |
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no no no your missing the point You must know what I'm talking about ! Everyone I hear talk about tim westwood always mentions the fact that he acts as if he's straight outta compton or something ".....aka 'white nigga'. a caucasian who appropriates the language, dress and mannerisms of black culture." |
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beastie boys are perhaps my all time favourite hip hop band...what does that make me? |
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I think the term wigga implies that a person is a hyporcrite or a theif. So if your motives for listening to or engaging in certian styles of music and actions outside your culture are genuine, the term doesn't apply to you. I'm certianly not an 'Unkle Tom' for loving electronic music and rock. |
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Hopeless :u) |
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ghetto culture is not black culture |
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"the language, dress and mannerisms of black culture." I don't know if this is specifically black culture. maybe it's just a marketing/fashion "culture" that was first adopted by younger people with dark skin, and now the white skinned kids too.... This is not to say black people don't have a rich culture of their own(african art, rituals, singing styles, etc) I just mean to say that I think many things that we now label "black" are just fashion and fabricated. I think the argument is also a bit rediculous because black people adopted far more things from white people than the other way around. We all share things and are influenced by them. |
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Maybe it's one thing to truly love a style of music associated with a particular ethnic group and another to adopt speech and mannerisms which you KNOW are foreign to you and the area where you live. It's the diffrence between Vanilla Ice and Eminem. |
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vanilla ice > eminem x 1000 |
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vanilla ice > thomas brinkmann?? |
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no...not really. |
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I'm racist against wiggas. |
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I'm wiggish against racists. |
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do you have that commercial in england? |
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what commercial is THAT? I've never seen anything like it. Is it a slaveboy (tm)? I've heard about them. |
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well here it's a commercial for an insurance company i dont know what a slave boy should be |
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A slave boy is a slave for the master/mistress, ofthen related to SM sex. |
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