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           Erronous
             from Netherlands, The on 2004-07-07 14:38 [#01269288]
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 Really, i hate the latest releases of warp, rephlex, skam,  what's going on there? i really don't like this gabba, rap,  bah! 
 
  Then, Planet Mu crossed my mind. I already found an  excellent album:
 
  Ambulance - The curse of vale do lobo
  really great electronic music, great beats, GREAT melodies, and surprisingly very little is discussed about it over  here.... 
 
  I'd say check the samples on planet-mu.com!
  Morton's latest purchase isn't bad either: Dykehouse's first  album is very nice, great to know these kind of albums still  exist. On the other hand, his last CD is awfulllllll..... 
 
  please recommend me more planet mu stuff..?
 
  
         
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           elusive
             from detroit (United States) on 2004-07-07 14:39 [#01269290]
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           Erronous
             from Netherlands, The on 2004-07-07 14:40 [#01269293]
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yes.... although his music is balancing on a whole other  edge....  
 
  
         
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           Key_Secret
             from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-07-07 14:49 [#01269308]
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 Really, i hate the latest releases of warp, rephlex, skam, what's going on there? i really don't like this gabba, rap, bah! 
  What gabba has been released on warp/rephlex/skam lateley?
 
  
         
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           Key_Secret
             from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-07-07 14:53 [#01269317]
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please note : I was qouting Erronous in the first paragraph  of that post... 
 
  
         
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           Erronous
             from Netherlands, The on 2004-07-07 15:02 [#01269332]
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what about that '!!!' on warp
  shadowhuntaz on skam
  the bug on rephlex. that kind of stuff...
 
 
  
         
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           qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-07 15:03 [#01269333]
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there's more gabba-like stuff coming out on Planet Mu than  the other labels you mentioned. 
 
  
         
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           Erronous
             from Netherlands, The on 2004-07-07 15:03 [#01269334]
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anyone heard of Ambulance?
 
  
         
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           Aesthetics
             from the IDM Kiosk on 2004-07-07 15:04 [#01269335]
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ziq086 edIT - Crying Over Pros For No Reason [2004] klinkt erruhg goed
  I agree with you about warp, rephlex and skam, let´s hope  this will shit will be once only 
 
  
         
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           Erronous
             from Netherlands, The on 2004-07-07 15:04 [#01269336]
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but still there is good stuff in between. i don't see  rephlex or skam doing the same thing 
 
  
         
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           Key_Secret
             from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-07-07 15:04 [#01269340]
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yeah that's what I thought aswell...
 
  
         
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           Erronous
             from Netherlands, The on 2004-07-07 15:09 [#01269349]
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sounds pretty good indeed....
 
  
         
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           qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-07 15:10 [#01269351]
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well, I'm not into this 'loving a label' thing much anyway,  I guess.
 
  I think Planet Mu is a nice label that isn't afraid to take  risks, but I think the same about warp - see the backlash  they're getting the last year or so.
 
  Skam still produces good stuff too - the last Freeform EP  was excellent, the Mr.76ix release was pretty good.
 
  now on Rephlex I agree - I dislike just about every record  they have ever released - but to me this is nothing new,  never liked their output. 
 
  
         
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           Morton
             from out (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-07 15:10 [#01269352]
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well not gabba, but he has a point imo, i don't like this  punkfunk stuff by '!!!' or the new 2 lone swordsmen album  either, i prefer the 'real' electonica that warp used to  release in the past,
  same goes for rephlex, i got a lot of wicked rephlex  releases from some years back, then a week or so ago i  listened to this new 'black devil' release and i couldn't  believe what i heard, it's utter wank
 
  i really can't believe that these labels release this crappy  and cheesy stuff nowadays,
  of course it's just my taste and opinion but i still choose  afx/ae/plaid etc. stuff over all this dancehall/funk/poprock  and god knows what, that seems to be the hype these days 
 
  
         
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           Morton
             from out (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-07 15:12 [#01269356]
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i admit though that warp already went wrong with jimi tenor  in the past :) 
 
  
         
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           Erronous
             from Netherlands, The on 2004-07-07 15:21 [#01269369]
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'gabba' is my universal name for everything i don't like. 
 
  
         
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           mimi
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the edit that came out on planet mu is pretty good.
 
  
         
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           qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-07 15:33 [#01269381]
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jimi tenor has done some pretty great stuff, I think.
 
  
         
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           Erronous
             from Netherlands, The on 2004-07-07 15:38 [#01269389]
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what are your favourite skam artist, then?
 
  
         
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           mashnote
             from mol (Belgium) on 2004-07-07 15:40 [#01269393]
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i never really liked most stuff on mu anyway
  except some VS, leafcutter john, etc..
 
  
         
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           tolstoyed
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idm turned crap.
 
  
         
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           hevquip
             from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2004-07-07 16:19 [#01269449]
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well tolstoyed, that's what i was thinking. or at least once  everyone gets into computers and starts making it, it all  starts to sound the same and so then everyone goes in the  opposite direction and tries to incorporate actual  instruments to prove that they're *real* musicians. i prefer  my electronic music straight, no stupid instruments, no  singing. anyway, i think IDM has a pretty shitty sound  palette to begin with. 
 
  
         
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           zguru
             from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2004-07-07 16:20 [#01269451]
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ddamage, edit, datach'i... good
 
  
         
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           tolstoyed
             from the ocean on 2004-07-07 16:22 [#01269454]
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i miss originality the most. im still hoping for afx to come  up with something and save the genre :) 
 
  
         
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           roygbivcore
             from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-07-07 16:23 [#01269458]
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i'm pretty bored with the jungle revival thing, especially  since most of it is just old style jungle, there's nothing  new or innovative about most of it
 
  and shitmat is terrible
 
  
         
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           zguru
             from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2004-07-07 16:23 [#01269459]
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i worry that one day, the mainstream will steal the idm  beats 
 
  
         
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           Key_Secret
             from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-07-07 16:38 [#01269478]
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why? It will make mainstream music more interesting.
 
  
         
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           tolstoyed
             from the ocean on 2004-07-07 16:41 [#01269480]
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           zguru
             from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2004-07-07 16:43 [#01269482]
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no, mainstream ruins everything... punk, metal, techno, it's  all in the hands of 12 year old mall kids now... it's all  marketing... i don't want to see squarepusher brought to you  by 'hanes her way' or budweiser. 
 
  
         
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           Key_Secret
             from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-07-07 16:49 [#01269495]
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aphex already sold his music for commercials, and lots of IDM (BOC and such) are used in documentaries and  stuff... we're already there. 
 
  
         
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           hevquip
             from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2004-07-07 17:26 [#01269556]
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you know that if "IDM" ever gets introduced to the  mainstream, it's just going to make IDM sound even more  homogenous. 
 
  
         
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           Key_Secret
             from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-07-07 17:27 [#01269560]
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... or the opposite will happen... I mean IDM is such a  broad genre it's hard to define -the- "IDM sound"...
  It's already happening, and it will improve other music. so it's all good in my opinion. Sometimes I am forced to  listen to mainstream music (e.g. when going out for drinks)  and if the music sounds more IDM than it does today, I think  that'll be an improvement. 
 
  
         
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           tolstoyed
             from the ocean on 2004-07-07 17:33 [#01269569]
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           Dozier
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yeah, edit is pretty good. kinda comes off like a poor man's  prefuse, but it's good nonetheless. 
 
  
         
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           -crazone
             from smashing acid over and over on 2004-07-07 17:47 [#01269578]
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IDM? have you ever thought of how stupid that sounds?  Intelligent Dance Musik? how can you dance intelligent?
  and why do people always want to label music? Planet-mu,  warp, rephlex, skam, hymen, etc etc all release beautifull  music, whether you like it or not
 
 
 
  
         
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           hevquip
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           qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-07 18:53 [#01269627]
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Freeform, Gescom, Bola.
  I also like Wevie Stonder - the one they got the most flack  for for signing them. 
 
  
         
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           qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-07 18:57 [#01269628]
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wow, this discussion has evolved to actually containing  every boring old topic!
 
  in ONE thread you can now find discussions on:
  - labels not doing what people expect them to do and  therefore "turning to crap"
  - IDM or whatever this genre is called turning to shit in  it's totality because it's changing and we don't that
  - mainstream ruining IDM or whatever this genre is called
  and as a bonus, that antique of the messageboards:
  - IDM is a stupid term!
  THAT'S VALUE FOR MONEY!! :D
 
  
         
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           qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-07 18:58 [#01269629]
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oops, that should read:
  - IDM or whatever this genre is called turning to shit in  
  it's totality because it's changing and we don't want  that
 
 
 
  
         
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           tolstoyed
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idm is changing? changing to what? they kinda lost ideas and  are doing the same thing over and over again, and that's  kinda boring. 
 
  
         
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           ChiasticSlide
             from Brisbane (Australia) on 2004-07-07 19:18 [#01269636]
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Autechre havn't lost their way.
 
  
         
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           qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-07 19:20 [#01269639]
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           Skink
             from A cesspool in eden on 2004-07-07 19:53 [#01269671]
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If you don't like "IDM" as it is then do something about it.  I write music i enjoy so should you!  
 
  
         
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           ngenstudios
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Most electronic music has become stale, the place to look is  the bands and individuals who play out or hock their cd  themselves.  Most of the labels mentioned above have some  very high quality releases but I'd never look to them for  the best. 
 
  
         
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           Skink
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It does seem to be the way i am finding this to be the case  more often now. 
 
  
         
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           Erronous
             from Netherlands, The on 2004-07-08 02:35 [#01269897]
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i don't think labels 'turned into crap' but it is a fact the  latest releases are of a totally different style, which i  don't like. I've never liked rap and men-voices. Pure  electronica is a rare gem to me, idm or not, it is just what  you like.
 
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           JAroen
             from the pineal gland on 2004-07-08 02:39 [#01269900]
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           deforrest gate
             from East London (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-08 03:14 [#01269959]
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I love men-voices.  
 
  
         
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           KEYFUMBLER
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As for Ambulance.... i've seen them a few times and am  aquainted with one the lads  too. Their music is excellent  and the got a track on "children of mu" compilation thats  absolutey gorgeous. "Vale.." is a must-get album for all  electronica fans..... 
 
  
         
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           Erronous
             from Netherlands, The on 2004-07-08 08:00 [#01270171]
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well, this afternoon I listened to freeform – wildcat. I  wasn’t impressed actually, it’s not my style. The  artwork is very cool, though. I also listened to edit, which  I liked more, but still gave me a mediocre feeling. It’s  nice, but not great. So I know, planet Mu is not all  great, but I still think some of you are sticking to the big  names like Warp and rephlex too much. 
 
  
         
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