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No I'm not saying that Sartre is the only philosopher worth. Damn followups. I was just suggesting something to empiricus he maybe would be interested in. The whole nausea of existence etc.... Just relax buddy. |
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why was my reply worthless?? i was simply stating an opinion! why does it piss you off man? i didn't feel i had to go on for ages explaining why.. but i will now because obviously you are trying to make a fooll out of me or something wich i still don't understand why... and if you know is "work" well, you would have got mylittle hints in the pevious post. don't you agree it's hell to talk about stuff like this one here? i find it hard ... and why the presumptuous : " there's no point in continuing discussion with you on this subject on any level. " fuck i still don't get my mistake.... i guess it's best not say what you think of someone without backing it up, wich i can agree. it's just that for this case it can be long and really needs a conversation... peace earthleakage? i mean't no harm. fuck i just don't like him. :) |
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"I need sleep":- translation - "i am a fucking pussy - fuck me in the asshole" |
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SATIRE! i was joking! |
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id expect a "this is lame" in an autechre of aphex twin thread. it was just disappointing, thats all. |
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too much heated debate for a thread titled "nihilism" |
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Life is funny sometimes. ha ha Ha. |
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"Maybe you would like to learn what the word essence means?" ill explain it to you silly man. Man first of all exists, encounters himself, surges up in the world — and defines himself afterwards. If man as the existentialist sees him is not definable, it is because to begin with he is nothing. He will not be anything until later, and then he will be what he makes of himself. Thus, there is no human nature, because there is no God to have a conception of it. Man simply is. So "existence precedes essence" what a fucking idiot |
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youre right it is hard to talk about this type of thing i think w/o sounding patronising to us all we all did quite well |
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At least we both mastered the art of followups. Heh |
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actually it did sound QUITE patronising. sorry. |
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i bet a fucking dolphin couldnt click on folloup could it? :) |
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The other white meat |
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"we believe in nothing lebowski, nothing. and tomorrow we come back, we cut off your johnson think about that lebowski, you wiggly penis maybe we stomp on it and skavoosh it." words to live by my friends. words to live by. if you don't pay what you owe, some one will come by to castrate you. THIS is the meaning of life. |
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you've got balls saying that |
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You are regurgitating Sartre to me. I was trying to see whether you were capable of thinking for yourself. Obviously not. In terms of existentialism I disagree strongly with Sartre's view that there is no such thing as human nature. But you are entitled to beleive everything you read if that's what you choose. I find it quite sad the ease with which you resort to personal insults though. |
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i can understand earthleakage... i was just a little "shocked" by how you said i came across...i thought you were a little "hurtful" by doing a "hobbes is lame" yourself... though i'm sure i'll get over it! :) 'night! |
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you never insult anyone! you c**t! |
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I have the feeling that my avatar somehow led here.... |
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Never during a sort of sensible discussion...and never simply because I don't agree with their view point. I watched a lot of Darcus Howe as a kid. |
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darcus howe the self proclaimed prophet haha! i always was more entertained by his name than his opinionated bullshit! i wish i was caled darcus, what a fantastic name! |
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He was great though. I always thought of ways I would argue against him if I ever had the chance to meet him. The whole devils advocate thing is something I really enjoy. Even if I am in agreement with the other people I will still argue just to find out exactly what they really think beause it all comes out in the end :D |
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i would say that animals are different than humans in that humans have the possibility of being artistic or creative in unnecessary ways and seem to have much more of an ability to understand and compare themselves to the rest of the animal kingdom because we have the knowledge of and more of a means of communicating. humans are more able to feel empathy towards other species. animals mainly are only "empathetic" to their own kind, or appear as such to other species in symbiotic relationships. animals seem to ruthlessly kill without a possibility of consideration to, or actual rational understanding of their prey. i can't imagine a cat understanding that when it is brutally killing a mouse, it can feel pain much alike their own..and i can't imagine the cat regarding the mouse as any more intelligent or more able to feel than the average bowl of "cat chow". the cat may prefer food with a beating heart, but i don't think that's an effect of them being deliberately cruel, it's just the way they perceive and fit into the world. humans can understand themselves in a way much different than the majority of other animals, and maybe that is their niche, in some fucked-up way. even if everything is "random", in that it wasn't created by an all-knowing or eternal force of some kind, man still gained it's differentiating intelligence through the same process that fine-tuned everything that we can experience. in my opinion, or belief, i feel there very well could be some type of underlying force or "point" to it all. it seems very strange and illogical that everything we know just came out of emptiness, and its only point is to run its course and be destroyed, and then possibly run through the same cycle again. it seems like it would be much easier for there to be just nothing.. no matter or energy.. or for it to not need to create something out of itself. it seems like the idea of existence comes from something akin to the human mind. these are just my thoughts/opinions. i can't prove or disprove anythi |
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i am intruiged by the inherant desperation of a human to project his subjectivity upon others, moreso the variance of the different levels of desperation. the nature/nurture, the athiesm & nilhism, there are so many areas that one individual can never comprehend never mind discuss in detail. at some point you MUST choose something over something else however despearate you are to want to feel neutral or in my own personal vocabulary "zentastic" ;) |
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there are so many areas that one individual can never comprehend never mind discuss in detail. How about everything? I would have been repulsed at the sight of it a few years ago but yes I have to say I BELIEVE(what I believe in changes constantly ofcourse). |
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read as "too many areas". choices are forced upon us otherwise nothing ever gets done. goodnight. |
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i think a big part of the fun of being a human is being able to discuss in great detail things that we can't even begin to really fully comprehend. |
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fav+ |
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"i love "the myth of sysiphus"!!!" TEH MYTH OF TEH SYPHILLIS! |
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I beg to differ. What plagues me is the fact that I can't stop myself from discussing and thinking about all that shit combined ofcourse with my unique idiocy. |
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Albert Camus said the only real philosphical question was the question of suicide. Why continue to live an absurd existence, a life in which the world we are confronted with offers us no meaning? Why do we suffer and voluntarily continue to suffer? hey thats funny, thats exactly what i think |
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didnt sartre say on "Why continue to live an absurd existence", something like: we live in an absurd existence so better make a blast out of it |
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empiricus: Am I the only one who is utterly perplexed by myself and the world that surrounds me?? me too, sometimes it scares me. its a strange emotion im feeling. i do not intend to kill myself to stop the nonsense. it seems that everyone dies. you cannot tell for sure what happens when one dies, so ill stick to living for now. while im alive, why not make the best of it, altough everything is so strange hell, i might be a bunch of code lines in a computer.. or this might all be a dream created for the purpose of entertaining yourself.. like a machine that lets you live a life in a second or sumthin. |
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is all that we see or seem but a dream within a dream? |
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wheres that from? |
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you cannot tell for sure what happens when one dies, damn right |
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you know, thingy, whatisname |
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for big [#01261122] ..and he probably took it back at some point, like he he does. i really don't want earthleakage to have a go at me again, i just find Sartre never could stick to something.... drifting from dogma to dogma he then decided he was a "total intellectual".... hard to take him seriously for me as he seemed to be always discrediting his previous stuff, giving himself excuses but also stating that he is a lot "better" now... i don't really "dig", but it's only my opinion. "je fait tout mal... mais je fait tout!" please excuse my shit views . maybe i should be banned. |
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i know nothing of (english) literature. and stuff. |
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To be sure I wasn't being ironic or anything....just a stupid joke.... :) |
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maybe you should have said that to start with rather than just posting "satre is lame" in the middle of a debate about philososphy! it wasn't your view that offended me, it was the flippancy and the retardedness of just calling one of the most important philisophers "lame" and then just leaving it at that. please don't start to get defensive with me or i will crush your puny existence with my mighty hands! |
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hahaha! @ earthleakage i guess i just used the term "lame" as it's an xltronick gimmik.... but yeah, personally i love camus wich is why i started posting in this thread but then i realised it wasn't gonna go that way... i cannot understand how you can regard sartre as one of the most important philosophers, but i respect you. plus it does me good to get a little insulted once in a while, honest ;) |
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i think sartre is lame though |
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a life of spouting bullshit, smoking a pipe and shagging endless prostitutes doesn't sound that lame to me |
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mm, sartre is pretty cool imo |
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i thought you'd come around :) |
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edgar allan poe was american, actually. isn't that weird? well, it's not that weird, now that i think about it. |
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i understood what you meant by lame |
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I am a sensitive artist... I am a sensitive artist. Nobody understands me because I am so deep. In my work I make allusions to books that nobody else has read, Music that nobody else has heard, And art that nobody else has seen. I can't help it Because I am so much more intelligent And well-rounded Than everyone who surrounds me. I stopped watching tv when I was six months old Because it was so boring and stupid And started reading books And going to recitals And art galleries. I don't go to recitals anymore Because my hearing is too sensitive And I don't go to art galleries anymore Because there are people there And I can't deal with people Because they don't understand me. I stay home Reading books that are beneath me, And working on my work, Which no one understands I am sensitive... I am a sensitive artist... |
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