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we went to war with the belief that saddam hussein had wmds. everybody knows there wasnt any INSIDE iraq a belief that stems from lies perpetrated by the bush administration. and since everybody knows there wasn't any WMD INSIDE Iraq, I guess thats why they sent inspectors INSIDE to find them. the Iraqi facilities were dismantled and sent both to Europe and around the middle east. at the rate of about 1,000 tons of metal a month. so he disarmed himself, and we knew he disarmed, so Bush came up with another reason to attack: Ties to Al quaida, which to this date have still not been proven. He is also known for his work with the kurds killing over 100,000. He had his entire nation repressed through a butcher like regime... the list just goes on he needed to be dealt with. nobody will contest that Saddam is a bad guy. of course he needed to be dealt with. but why Saddam? everybody knows why. the bush administration just won's admit it. we wants the sweet black nectar of the desert and ole Saddammy is sittin' right thar on it. YEEHAW! BLOW HIS ASS UP Y"ALL!! |
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Aside from Kerry being a tree hugging hippie, why are you voting for bush again? (and please dont say "because Kerry this..." list some good points about bush.) |
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i hope we will soon reach a point in society where all elections will be determined by movies. |
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christ on a stick.. . propaganada is a formidable force.. . look at the number its done on children talking.. . its so strong that itll make uninformed people fight for something which ultimately will only turn and bite the hand that feeds it. .. america will be better off with John Kerry.. . but even if he turns out to be the best president in history Im not sure if his one term will be enough to clean up the mess bush made. .. also while we are at it can someone explain why a "tree hugging hippy" is a bad thing? better that I would have thought than a "oil guzzling monster" that cant wait to doom us all to a speedy apocalypse. .. |
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this is exactly the kind of rhetoric that the Reich, opps i m mean Right, spreads around here. By here i mean, butte county, california, which is one of the poorest counties in our state. i can take a (scary as fuck) walk down to the other side of the tracks and hear it all day. "one of these days, we'll be rich if we vote for bush, because hey, he is rich, and umm, white." actual conversation i've had, poor folks, think they can make it one day, that is why they support tax cuts for the rich, because eventually, they beleive, it will benefit them. |
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you are gonna love this, f 911 opened in the local theater yesterday, and beat spiedy!!! and a follow up, hitler, stallin, etc. all beleived they were "fighting" to protect them selves, doocumented facts! check Stallin's archives, he felt that his actions were for the betterment of his nation and the world, miserable fuck. stallin that is, NOT you, not that there is anything wrong with that. |
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ifkardo the same could be said to all leaders who are fighting for a cause. the difference between them and bush is that he, that being bush, didnt take the initiative in killing innocent civilians. my argument isn't whether or not it was for the betterment of "a cause", but what the cause is for. Bush removied a dictator who killed in a massive scale- over 100K of his own people, kurds to be exact. if you watch the news now they'll soon enough air saddam hussein in court where he will be charged witha long list of criminal charges, ranging from homocide,assisnations to genocide. could you or monoid make a distinction between dictators who killed in a massive scale for an unreasonable cause? hitler's motive were for killing those who opposed an idealogy (arian race) based on ones own religion and ethnicity. therefore killing millions upon millions those being the jews/gypsies/ etc... women and children in concentration camps for the sole purpose of starving them to death or eventually to be killed by gun shots to the head or put in gas chambers to be later disposed in furnaces or dug in massive graves (i can go on in specifics with the atrocities towards the jews but i think this will be sufficient to get my point across). stalin was a russian communist dictator, the one behind mass executions and the catyn woods massacre, killing millions upon millions of his own people, through political paranoia. If he didn't like someone for their political views, family ties, or just plain didn't like them they were summarily shot, or thrown into a gulag, you'd still die in a gulag, but probably a worse death. the fact of the matter is you're supporting monoids ridiculous comparison- for that reason alone i dont find it suitable for a response from me or anyone with any basic historical knowlege and logic to distinguish between an american diplomatic president and communist/fascist dictator, but i figured i'd give you a little history lesson. doesn't seem they're doing too good of a job in Guinea. |
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well.. this thread seems to be heading for more and more extreme arguments, but i'd like to interject with my own personal opinion; that the leader of more or less every powerful nation in the world has blood on their hands, however much of a decent person they seem to be. whether it be through organised genocides, turning a blind eye to the militia's more thuggish and brutal persuasions, trade sanctions, war, political assasinations, foreign policy, poorly executed interventions in other country's affairs, lack of intervention in other country's affairs, deposing dictators, appointing dictators, the arms trade, government sanctionned medical and scientific experiments, underinvestment in health and education, tax hikes, underinvestment due to tax cuts, etc. etc. they make the decisions that millions of people live and die by. if you manage to get by without being noticeably affected by the poor decisions that are often made by world leaders, directly or indirectly, you should count yourself very lucky. they make the bed.. and we lie in it. |
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Israel is supposed to be the modern democracy, the only civilized country in the region. I find this hard to reconcile with their practice of shooting small children in the back from helicopters and bombing residential neighborhoods because some informant said someone they want is inside somewhere. Before Israel came along with so many radical Zionists itching for a fight, Jews and Arabs got along fine in the region. |
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monoid i'm not going to bother debating with you anymore after this because you take things and twist them around, for example you mentioned about palestinian children being killed by our military forces, do you ever research things? these very same 'victims' are victims of a society that reward violence towards the jews. they're are raised through anti judiac semsami street like tv shows which teach hate towards israel simply because we exist. these children are put explosives and sent towards israeal or equipped with semi automatic weapons. they are victims of hate. SO DONT EVEN GO THERE. |
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hmm.. i wonder who's to blame for that then? who would have been foolish enough to go in and start carving up the region, moving people off their land and apportioning to foreigners? who would have been foolish enough to give away land that wasn't theirs to give in the first place? who would have been foolish enough to destablise an entire region based on post WWII guilt and a claim of land-ownership based on a 3000 year old religious document? whose naive foreign policy and unwillingness to accept responsibility has resulted in almost half a century of civil unrest, terrorist attacks, civilian death and social scars that will not heal for decades to come? who COULD that have been? |
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I hate to be hostile and all, but i think it is fairly reasonable to state that Children-talking is a fuckin spazzy. xoxox |
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you'll be surprised how many people think like him...I would say he has his right to his own opinion but the facts about Bush and what he is doing is in our faces everyday and still he and many others are going to re-elect that rat bastard. |
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yeah. it makes me chortle knowing that i am correct, and he is a pure dogjobby with a political compass that is all wonky and that. like an OAPs legs. *duck and cover* |
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all i want to know is, where's the winning team and how do i sign up? |
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i'd be surprised |
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He's entitled to his own opinion....I plan on standing in front of the white house with a sign that says "GET OUT BUSH!" |
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what a co-incidence i was planning on standing in front of your house and shouting the same thing |
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hahahaha good one...but would you use the word bush? cause if so then you wouldnt be talking to me. |
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get out YOUR bush! |
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No, I dont like Bush. |
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she might also mean she has no bush. cleanshaven 'n all. or maybe it fell off. |
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