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         |  fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2004-06-24 20:26 [#01255211] Points: 18042 Status: Lurker
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 | Take him to "cottage country" with middle aged dull normals.
 
 I cannot tolerate low information density environments. Let
 me go kayaking and it's not so bad. But put me in an
 air-conditioned luxury Jeep for three hours, driving around
 looking at cows and making small talk, and the urge to kill
 rises.
 
 Also play music in the air conditioned luxury Jeep if you
 want to make fleetmouse kill. Make the music be Chris Rea,
 which is like the worst aspects of Robert Cray, Leonard
 Cohen and an over-rehearsed blues rock bar band. Snap your
 fingers along to Chris Rea if you really, really want to
 make fleetmouse kill.
 
 I'll never be a proper grown-up. I can't make small talk
 about where you buy blueberries and how much they cost and
 how much the blueberries cost last year. It makes fleetmouse
 kill.
 
 I have never needed to listen to Autechre so badly in my
 life.
 
 I could write more about it but my eyelid is twitching
 because I must kill.
 
 
 
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         |  optimus prime
             on 2004-06-24 20:29 [#01255215] Points: 6447 Status: Lurker
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 | i hear about blueberries all the time in northern ontario. 
 
 
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         |  sneakattack
             on 2004-06-24 20:30 [#01255217] Points: 6049 Status: Lurker | Followup to fleetmouse: #01255211
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 | Haven't you lived long enough to never ever let yourself in such situations?
 
 I guess sometimes you have to do it.. sometimes I delusion
 myself that I need it like some sort of medicine, that it is
 good and I don't understand, then after I don't take it I
 shun it blissfully for years again..
 
 I almost always have pen and paper with me.  In certain
 moods in helps, but unfortunately there is no panacea
 
 
 
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         |  fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2004-06-24 20:33 [#01255224] Points: 18042 Status: Lurker
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 | I guess sometimes you have to do it.. sometimes I delusion
 myself that I need it like some sort of medicine, that it
 is
 good and I don't understand, then after I don't take it I
 shun it blissfully for years again..
 
 Yes yes! It's like I think something is wrong with me that I
 can't enjoy it and I need to condition myself to have those
 interests. And I always learn the same lesson: they are
 wrong and must die.
 
 
 
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         |  sneakattack
             on 2004-06-24 20:40 [#01255235] Points: 6049 Status: Lurker | Followup to fleetmouse: #01255224
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 | I constantly feel like I've lost something.  For instance: going to parties and watching movies in the theater; these
 two social acts make no sense to me.  Why would I want to be
 around all those people?  Why do I want to hear you talk
 about that?  What does person A think they get from person
 B?
 
 It's perplexing when I'm totally I make no sense as the
 activities of normal people strike me as utterly
 inexplicable.  I don't think of myself at a utilitarian, but
 I don't like doing things for which the fundamental inquiry
 'why' has no answer.
 
 Oh yeah I made a bad typo: I meant to say "then after I take
 it I shun it blissfully for years again'; I actually feel a
 clock.. it's been so and so many months since I've gone to a
 party, and I have so and so many months remaining.
 
 
 
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         |  uviol
             from United States on 2004-06-24 20:44 [#01255245] Points: 2496 Status: Lurker
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 | Smalltalk for intervals longer than about 30 minutes really gets to me.. because by that time, the person you're talking
 to has already heard your inventory of fillers like 'oh
 man!' or 'that's riduculous!' or 'that's fantastic!' and it
 becomes very obviously shallow and grating.
 
 
 
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         |  sneakattack
             on 2004-06-24 20:46 [#01255250] Points: 6049 Status: Lurker | Followup to uviol: #01255245
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 | 30 minutes? I almost panic hearing that. 
 I confusedly salute your immense patience.
 
 I think being impatient is good, actually.  Our time is
 limited!
 
 
 
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         |  earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2004-06-24 20:50 [#01255256] Points: 27859 Status: Regular
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 | you'd fucking love in in england. 
 
 
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         |  fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2004-06-24 20:51 [#01255257] Points: 18042 Status: Lurker
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 | I think being impatient is good, actually. Our time is limited!
 
 Yes. My three hours in that jeep, it's like they were
 drinking my blood. I would have preferred to do that
 actually. "Here's three pints of blood. I'm going to sit
 under that tree and read a technical manual on my palm
 pilot. Pick me up on the way back".
 
 
 
 
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         |  fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2004-06-24 20:53 [#01255259] Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to earthleakage: #01255256
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 | Why? Do you all hate and avoid each other? Or are you being sarcastic and is it like living in an episode of Coronation
 Street with everyone hobnobbing down at Rovers? Blah blah
 blah, let's eat Deirdre's intestines, blah blah blah
 
 
 
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         |  uviol
             from United States on 2004-06-24 21:04 [#01255263] Points: 2496 Status: Lurker | Followup to sneakattack: #01255250
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 | Hah, well thanks.. but I think you're right, it's partially a sign of weakness that I can't either A) be honest and tear
 myself away or B) change the conversation to something that
 matters, regardless of etiquette.  It really can get old,
 and I always feel rotten afterwards because I am such a
 faker sometimes.. and put up such a facade to some people.
 It's damn near an identity crisis.  But anyway.  Let's all
 move to England.
 
 
 
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         |  fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2004-06-24 21:06 [#01255265] Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to uviol: #01255263
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 | But after being tortured socially, don't you appreciate Lentic Catachresis in whole new ways and more than you ever
 imagined possible? I sure do.
 
 
 
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         |  sneakattack
             on 2004-06-24 21:06 [#01255267] Points: 6049 Status: Lurker | Followup to fleetmouse: #01255257
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 | Speaking of drinking blood, here's a weird phenomenon: people who call and have nothing to say.  The last time this
 happened to me I got the distinct feeling that the person's
 life was so miserable that they called me for no reason
 other than to generate some perception of meaning.  They
 just sat there waiting for me to say things.
 
 Mind you I'm not saying I'm worthwhile to talk to on the
 phone--precisely the opposite.  Sucking my fucking blood.
 
 
 
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         |  sneakattack
             on 2004-06-24 21:09 [#01255271] Points: 6049 Status: Lurker | Followup to uviol: #01255263
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 | Isn't lentic catachresis the most satisfying track name in the history of the universe?  Fuck alien music.
 
 I know what you mean.  I feel awful being rude to people,
 and do it all the time, and keep feeling awful...
 
 checklist:
 [x] have to put up with them
 [x] derive guilt from being rude
 [x] feeling weird not enjoying it
 
 
 
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         |  fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2004-06-24 21:15 [#01255276] Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to sneakattack: #01255267
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 | You're so nasty and antisocial! 
 :: hugs sneakattack, then jumps back and glares suspiciously
 ::
 
 I like communicating on messageboards because it's so
 direct, like Kang and Kodos exchanging long protein strings.
 If voice and video chat becomes more common, it will devolve
 into retards making fart noises. Sort of like one big cheap
 flash animation.
 
 
 
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         |  uviol
             from United States on 2004-06-24 21:19 [#01255279] Points: 2496 Status: Lurker | Followup to fleetmouse: #01255265
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 | But after being tortured socially, don't you appreciate Lentic Catachresis in whole new ways and more than you ever
 
 imagined possible? I sure do.
 
 Haha, wow. I can relate to this feeling, I know it exactly.
 
 This example is a little bit different, but the idea is the
 same.  I started working at this local AM radio station, and
 have to play this crappy country music in between news and
 talk shows.. After ther first day I came back home, layed
 down on my bed, and put on some Underworld.  It was like
 candy.  The same goes for Autechre and other stressful
 social situations.
 
 
 
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         |  sneakattack
             on 2004-06-24 21:26 [#01255284] Points: 6049 Status: Lurker | Followup to fleetmouse: #01255276
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 | I think communication methods which are less time-sensitive (message boards, news groups, email) are infinitely more
 polite than telephones, physical visits, chat, etc., because
 you are never demanding the person make your response
 their present concern and respond.  Phone calls are usually
 made when the caller can do it, regardless of the receiver's
 whim.
 
 fuckers.
 
 
 
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         |  JAroen
             from the pineal gland on 2004-06-25 01:45 [#01255501] Points: 16065 Status: Regular
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 | Words / feelings that apply to xltronic user JAroen: 
 dull normals.
 
 low information density environments [...] and making small
 talk
 
 Also play music ... Snap your fingers along
 
 I'll never [grow up properly]. I can't make small talk
 about ...
 
 I have never needed to listen to Autechre so badly in my
 
 life.
 
 this is a good thread
 
 
 
 
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         |  chaosmachine
             from Ottawa (Canada) on 2004-06-25 03:26 [#01255613] Points: 2330 Status: Lurker
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 | indeed, i can relate on many levels to this thread. 
 
 
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         |  k_maty
             on 2004-06-25 03:51 [#01255659] Points: 2362 Status: Regular
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 | Hm maybe you should daydream or something... I have automated responses that I give to people, then when they
 are satisfied and go away, I immediately go back into an
 alternate world in my head.  I've been doing that forever.
 Occasionally I wake up to listen to a conversation and they
 always seem to be identical, so I just go back into my other
 places.  I'm never rude though, and I enjoy being nice to
 people, being polite, and saying hi, it feels good, but
 about 70 percent of my day is spent daydreaming.
 
 
 
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